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Old 2008-12-21, 12:55   Link #61
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Toradora

Was the final pairing different?
Toradora? What is that? Can you eat it?

Look up...

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My memory's off but if I recall correctly...
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From my blurry memories, it was something like that, yes. Though unless you read the whole two novels, the meaning of some of the final events (like Komaki's dream or her chasing Tamura) is harder to understand/less powerful, I feel.
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Old 2008-12-26, 14:45   Link #62
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WTF is with the ending? Did the manga got cancelled like Double Arts?
It was a nice read until the final arc when Matsuzawa came back... then the nonsense started. Story with plenty of potential wasted with such an ending.
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Old 2008-12-26, 17:13   Link #63
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WTF is with the ending? Did the manga got cancelled like Double Arts?
No, it was finished. While it was somewhat hollow, I was satisfied with the end... Mah, my condolences to Hiroka, kuhihi.
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Old 2008-12-26, 18:51   Link #64
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Wait... that's the ending? feels like the author ran out of ideas and just ended it... God, I hate open endings it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth
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Old 2008-12-26, 20:39   Link #65
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Wait... that's the ending? feels like the author ran out of ideas and just ended it... God, I hate open endings it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth
It's not really left opened... I guess the manga left people feeling that way...? It's supposed to be a Komaki end, if it's hard to realize...
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Old 2008-12-27, 00:57   Link #66
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It seemed as if the ending was sort of sudden... It would've been nice to have a few more chapters or something.

Overall, I still enjoyed this manga. However--

Souma > Matsuzawa

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Old 2008-12-27, 01:04   Link #67
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the ending felt rushed, sloppy and wasn;t thought it... it was a complete fail imo
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Old 2008-12-27, 03:19   Link #68
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Actually, I felt the same exact way. The author for the original source material tends to dwaddle on in the middle of a book with gags and wishywashiness, then unleashes a sudden exposive spectacle at the end or towards the end. Like the, "Who's Souma-san?" letter. That actually came up on the last 2 or 3 pages of the original novel.

Keeping the pacing, but moving away from the explosion part and converting it into something mellow didn't really work, imo. I didn't get much out of it. One possible reason was that the magazine it was serialized in died at the same time it ended so the artist couldn't squeeze in the necessary stuff. Then again, it should have ended around that time no matter what, so maybe that's just the position he wanted to take with his rendition?

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Old 2008-12-27, 08:10   Link #69
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Souma > Matsuzawa

Non, non, Komaki > Hiroka

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One possible reason was that the magazine it was serialized in died at the same time it ended so the artist couldn't squeeze in the necessary stuff.
Come to think of it, I remember reading on animenewsnetwork about a lot of manga from that magazine ending or something... Mmm, maybe that could be the reason, though I doubt it.
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Old 2008-12-27, 09:38   Link #70
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Yeah, a bunch of titles in Dengeki Gao were finished during the final few months left in the magazine. The other stuff that was still worth maintaining were then shifted over to Dengeki Daioh.
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Old 2009-01-03, 23:12   Link #71
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Well, managed to KO this manga (another of the few that I can say I've finished... so much I've started but need to complete)... and to me it seems that though he's in love with Matsuzawa, because she's gone for a while, he'll also be with Souma for the time being (with them talking about how neither of them were rejected)... but maybe that's a watered=down manga version of events
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Old 2009-01-03, 23:55   Link #72
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Hear my tale,

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Final thought: an average series. Just had to vent about Tamura’s stupidity.
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Old 2009-01-04, 00:29   Link #73
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Yes... the guy being indecisive is what pissed me off the most

I've only seen one other thing nearly this bad, and that's with the anime version of Tsukune from R+V...ugh... even thinking about that guy makes me sick
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Old 2009-03-10, 20:53   Link #74
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"Possibly one of the best novels I have ever read... I am sorry to say but, Toradora! simply cannot even compare to this (I used to almost-worship Toradora! before reading this). Pastel is the only novel/manga that could match this one for me... unless someone is willing to recommend something better?

The ending was not horrible as most seem to suggest.. yes, the story could have been made longer (and hopefully turned into an anime, please!) but, the ending gives off a 'touching moment' as well as pleasing Ice Queen fans at the same time.

As for me, Matsuzawa Komaki ALL THE WAY! From the first time I saw the page asking 'Which do you support?' I prefered Matsuzawa and I stick to my decision. But, Souma does have some really great points about her ... and Ice Queen as a nickname.. love it. Still though, Matsuzawa is simply .. beyond words to me.

By the way, does anyone know if the last two extra chapters were ever released?? I could not seem to find them anywhere at all.."
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Old 2009-12-01, 16:49   Link #75
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This was awesome. I read it one day too. It reminded me a lot of ef and I''s.

What made this great was the characters weren't perfect and you could see where they were coming from. I think I would have liked a more closed ending or something, but it was still really enjoyable.

It would be great an anime would be made based on the novel.
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Old 2009-12-01, 16:55   Link #76
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To be honest I just wanted a proper ending with Tamura choosing someone(in my mind he chose the Matsuzawa, but the ending just doesn't feel right). Both girls had enough development. So I woulda been satisfied if he just chose someone and let the other girl down properly.
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Old 2009-12-01, 17:33   Link #77
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Ah! This title brings back good memory. Sending out fake spoilers and annoying people on IRC during release days are awesome.

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To be honest I just wanted a proper ending with Tamura choosing someone(in my mind he chose the Matsuzawa, but the ending just doesn't feel right). Both girls had enough development. So I woulda been satisfied if he just chose someone and let the other girl down properly.
This is why I hated the ending and suggested we do not finish the project haha, though I wouldn't mind an anime either ...
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Old 2009-12-01, 19:48   Link #78
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Man, been a long time since I've thought about this one. I'd love to be able to see the original novel someday. This comic was pretty fun.
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Old 2009-12-01, 20:28   Link #79
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To be honest I just wanted a proper ending with Tamura choosing someone(in my mind he chose the Matsuzawa, but the ending just doesn't feel right). Both girls had enough development. So I woulda been satisfied if he just chose someone and let the other girl down properly.
It's pretty much Matsuzawa. The novel's way of ending is a lot more certain than the manga's...
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Old 2009-12-01, 21:05   Link #80
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I actually liked the fact it was short, since that meant things wouldn't get dragged, unlike the story about an annoying palmtop tiger and a scary bloke, which I ended up dropping.

As for the ending, I thought it was clear who he wanted to be with. Tamura may have developed feelings for Hiroka, but the one he truly wanted to be with was Komaki. He could never let go of her, and when he met her again he realised he truly wanted to be with her. The ending delivered this point quite clearly, and in quite a nice fashion, in my opinion.

This story is not long enough for an anime, but I'd really like it if it gets some OVAs.
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