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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 5 Rating
Perfect 10 208 50.73%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 90 21.95%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 53 12.93%
7 out of 10 : Good 26 6.34%
6 out of 10 : Average 12 2.93%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 6 1.46%
4 out of 10 : Poor 6 1.46%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.24%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 2 0.49%
1 out of 10 : Painful 6 1.46%
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Old 2008-05-09, 00:55   Link #861
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AS legendary as they make him appear, I suspect he will be atTodou's level, since he was called the miracle too, for a Zero to actually be in a position to beat Britannia he will definately need much more allies, that is why I see the defeat of the EU as a matter of time more than anything, giving this commander the excuse to join the black knights too.
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Old 2008-05-09, 01:51   Link #862
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Rating for this episode was a 1.8% up from last weeks 1.4%.
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Old 2008-05-09, 01:54   Link #863
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Hmm, well it's getting better. I'm hoping Turn 6 manages to turn this around and we can get some real ratings here... >_>
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Old 2008-05-09, 01:57   Link #864
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Hmm, well it's getting better. I'm hoping Turn 6 manages to turn this around and we can get some real ratings here... >_>
well, the last two Sundays were a little out of the ordinary, it was golden week in Japan after all. >_>
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Old 2008-05-09, 06:45   Link #865
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He might appear to lead a counterattack or something, I doubt Lelouch will just leave them alone if he truly wants to take the rebellion global >_>
I hope so. We know that the CF has a special knightmare (last spoilers) and a leader, "Li", but we haven't seen anything about the E.U leaders and their Knightmares.

Even if it's just for some minutes in an episode, I want to see them
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Old 2008-05-09, 12:19   Link #866
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I hope so. We know that the CF has a special knightmare (last spoilers) and a leader, "Li", but we haven't seen anything about the E.U leaders and their Knightmares.

Even if it's just for some minutes in an episode, I want to see them
Well EU hasnt lost yet really. They just lost a battle, not the war. So yes, they might try to have an alliance with Zero. But still i dont think it will be any time soon. Just look at the OP. no mention of EU. So if such a thing would happen it would probably be in the second 13 episode of the series.
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Old 2008-05-09, 12:49   Link #867
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Actually the EU is present during the OP, they were getting trashed by Suzaku and Gino in it if I recall...>_>
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Old 2008-05-09, 13:16   Link #868
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Actually the EU is present during the OP, they were getting trashed by Suzaku and Gino in it if I recall...>_>
I'm still looking to see what Lelouch can do, when a real force other than the Black Knights is there to assist him, and by "real force" I mean something a little stronger than the depleted JLF.
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Old 2008-05-09, 16:19   Link #869
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Yeah I hope there is another strong group that will help the black knights.
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Old 2008-05-09, 16:28   Link #870
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Kind of need it since we're only going through a fourth of the KoR's during Turn 6 and it still looks kind of bad for them...>_>
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Old 2008-05-09, 20:53   Link #871
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Black Knights aren't really that strong, you know. Lelouch is like the heart, mind and soul of that group and without him, those guys won't even exist at all. Some of the characters in that group are strong or they have impressive resumes but Brittania is just a lot stronger when compared side by side.
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Old 2008-05-09, 21:04   Link #872
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Black Knights aren't really that strong, you know. Lelouch is like the heart, mind and soul of that group and without him, those guys won't even exist at all. Some of the characters in that group are strong or they have impressive resumes but Brittania is just a lot stronger when compared side by side.
I would say that OoBK is more like a Judo master: the body may be weak, but the brain knows how to turn the table around.
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Old 2008-05-09, 22:01   Link #873
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I would say that OoBK is more like a Judo master: the body may be weak, but the brain knows how to turn the table around.
Honestly, it's more like a flea versus 40 elephants right now. The Black knight force they rescued was 256 soldiers combined with the maybe 50-100 they had before. Your looking at a force of maybe 400 holed up in a Chinese Embassy versus all of Britannia including three of the Emperor's most powerful knights, when one is more than enough.
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Old 2008-05-09, 22:03   Link #874
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Honestly, it's more like a flea versus 40 elephants right now. The Black knight force they rescued was 256 soldiers combined with the maybe 50-100 they had before. Your looking at a force of maybe 400 holed up in a Chinese Embassy versus all of Britannia including three of the Emperor's most powerful knights, when one is more than enough.
Okay, so it's a single lightweight Judo master against a horde of elephants.

Depending on how the Judo master strikes, he might ber able to at least annoy the horde.
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Old 2008-05-09, 22:21   Link #875
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Why do you call them a judo master though? They are still somewhat disfunctional as a team, their over-reliance on Zero is not a positive, in season one they were doomed to fail even with zero, their only chance at success was to kidnap Cornelia and that failed b/c of orange. Nunally's kidnapping was more good than bad.
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Old 2008-05-09, 22:41   Link #876
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Why do you call them a judo master though? They are still somewhat disfunctional as a team, their over-reliance on Zero is not a positive, in season one they were doomed to fail even with zero, their only chance at success was to kidnap Cornelia and that failed b/c of orange. Nunally's kidnapping was more good than bad.
meh, Lelouch would have still found a way to save them from being captured if he himself hadn't been caught and brainwashed. For the Order, it was certainly a bad thing that the situation turned out the way it did.
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Old 2008-05-09, 22:50   Link #877
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Why do you call them a judo master though? They are still somewhat disfunctional as a team, their over-reliance on Zero is not a positive, in season one they were doomed to fail even with zero, their only chance at success was to kidnap Cornelia and that failed b/c of orange. Nunally's kidnapping was more good than bad.
A Judo master would have been able to turn around a situation even if he himself was weak, because of his BRAIN.
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Old 2008-05-10, 00:53   Link #878
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It's pretty much the same story as it was in R1. Even if the Order could liberate Area 11, it would be absolutely impossible to hold this territory against the largest Empire on the planet. The whole country would turn into a battlefield.

The only way to victory against Britannia I see it is to pick off key members of military and royal family. The ultimate Achilles' heel for any absolute monarchy is to slaughter the whole royal family.

I’m sure that Zero ultimately wins, but I’m also sure that Japan could be independent only after that. And how the hell will Lelouch pull this win off I have no idea.
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Old 2008-05-10, 02:54   Link #879
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It's pretty much the same story as it was in R1. Even if the Order could liberate Area 11, it would be absolutely impossible to hold this territory against the largest Empire on the planet. The whole country would turn into a battlefield.

The only way to victory against Britannia I see it is to pick off key members of military and royal family. The ultimate Achilles' heel for any absolute monarchy is to slaughter the whole royal family.

I’m sure that Zero ultimately wins, but I’m also sure that Japan could be independent only after that. And how the hell will Lelouch pull this win off I have no idea.
Not really. If he can win and take over japan, he can even go up against Britain. He just need to mass produce mobile armors and he is set. Zero has Laksha to help in technological area. They have really good pilots. All zero need is an alliance with Chinese federation to buy some time for Knightmare production. And dont forget, japan is a place with tons of sakuradite. Capturing it would damage Britain's economy. That was the sole reason Britain actually captured them right?

I dont even think that Lulu plans on going war against Britain after independence. He just want to creat a state that as he said " carries justice" and weak doesnt get oppressed.

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Honestly, it's more like a flea versus 40 elephants right now. The Black knight force they rescued was 256 soldiers combined with the maybe 50-100 they had before. Your looking at a force of maybe 400 holed up in a Chinese Embassy versus all of Britannia including three of the Emperor's most powerful knights, when one is more than enough.
What about Rolo? What about chinese federation?

Dont forget Even Oobk has it's ellite pilots.

Dont count chinese federation out. There was a reason that Lulu asked to talk with the chinese officials.

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meh, Lelouch would have still found a way to save them from being captured if he himself hadn't been caught and brainwashed. For the Order, it was certainly a bad thing that the situation turned out the way it did.
True, like finding a place to run away from and hide, or Geassing on or two to take in their advantage *_*. He would find a way somehow to get out of the situation. But they still wouldnt be able to win if they didnt have cornelia. maybe just escape with Lulu's help.

And Mash is right. They rely on Zero just too much. I mean if toudo hadnt stepped in, Ookb might have been in a chaos. What was that girl thinking( one of the vice captains, i forgot her name *_*) ? What good would it do .

Go Toudo .

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Yeah I hope there is another strong group that will help the black knights.
The 3 on the chinese federation side ( Beside the little girl the other 3 are probably really strong).

-kallen

- Toudo

- Shinsengumi ( was that what they were called *_* ? ) . The ones that follow toudo basically.

-And most importantly The Geass user ROLO *_*.

- We also had few new characters in the op who might be strong.

So they have their own share of strong allies too.

And we dont know if all of the KOR are as strong as Suzaku and Zino. Strategically Zero has the advantage too.
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Old 2008-05-10, 03:04   Link #880
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And dont forget, japan is a place with tons of sakuradite. Capturing it would damage Britain's economy. That was the sole reason Britain actually captured them right?
Not quite; the emperor is also capturing them for Geass Ruins. The issue is that the emperor not only have and knows abotu Geass, he also knew something that is related to the world of C. the only tidbits is Ragnarok (at the ep1 of R1) and Sword of Arkaska.

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I dont even think that Lulu plans on going war against Britain after independence. He just want to creat a state that as he said " carries justice" and weak doesnt get oppressed.
No... he definitely planned on attempting to destroy Britannia., and not just empty words. Aside from getting help from Chinese Federation, Lelouch is probably rely upon elements of surprise and Blitzkrieg... and probably that is a diversion in itself as he face Suzaku and Emperor/Schinel himself.
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