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Old 2008-05-14, 11:35   Link #1
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[Manga] Chapter 400 Discussion

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Old 2008-05-14, 12:09   Link #2
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-Why do I have this lingering feeling in the back of my head chapter 400 isn't going to be something of significant importance? Well I am still wayting for Madara to finish explaining Itachi's involvement...
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Old 2008-05-14, 13:44   Link #3
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-Why do I have this lingering feeling in the back of my head chapter 400 isn't going to be something of significant importance? Well I am still wayting for Madara to finish explaining Itachi's involvement...
If I were Kishi, I would atleast do something special to commerate 400 chapters...
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Old 2008-05-14, 14:21   Link #4
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Some interesting spoilers are out (there is even one that has the Uchiha clan asking to be segregated ), but so far nothing seems that spectactular for a 400th chapter. So, maybe, there will be a new popularity poll, which would make up for a lackluster chapter (not that this is a lackluster chapter, I have no idea if it is, but if it ends up being more suggestive, if well written, discussion, adding a popularity poll could spice things up (then again, I have seen no idication that a new popularity poll is in the works)).

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Old 2008-05-14, 14:50   Link #5
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Actually Itachi's true past has a lot of potential to be quite spectacular. Maybe we'll get a treat ^_^. Fukitsu why wouldn't Itachi's past have significant importance? Though 300 wasn't particularly special, Sasuke first appeared. This will probably be another milestone or turning point. However you like to see it.
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Old 2008-05-14, 17:42   Link #6
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I want a BIG cliffhanger lol.
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Old 2008-05-14, 18:27   Link #7
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I found this some where not verified yet though.....

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Itachi was a spy (from Uchiha) to ANBU, but he leaked (Uchiha’s) information to the village side. He was a double spy.

So he killed Uchiha clan. He had no choice.

The third Hokage tried to reconcile, but it was late. And the night came.

To be a rogue Ninja was a part of the order.

But Itachi made one mistake.

He couldn’t kill his brother.

He asked the third to protect Sasuke and threatened Danzou not to lay a hand on Sasuke and he left village

Itachi planed to give his power to Sasuke and die from the first.
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Old 2008-05-14, 18:38   Link #8
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I wonder what happened to the Obito is Tobi activists, did they completely ignore recent chapters and stopped posting or did they realize the errors in what they said?
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Old 2008-05-14, 18:51   Link #9
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lawls so true i always laughed at the tobi=obito fanboys who swore up and down it had to be true
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Old 2008-05-14, 19:00   Link #10
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Come on guys Tobi is Zabuza look at their hairstyles

Spoiler for i called it lol:


there's also a spoiler out there that says Itachi and Kakashi didn't activate their MS by killing their best friend, which I think is BS cause why would Madara tell Sasuke that. It doesn't fit, I'll keep looking for a confirmed spoiler and post it here

Spoiler not confirmed but sounds legit
He (Itachi) accepted his fate as he embarked on his mission.
To sacrifice himself...this was his mission.

In order to have stability in the "village", Konoha put up a false image.
The person with the leading role was Itachi.
To observe/supervise the movements of the ex-rivals, the Uchihas, and at the same time arranged to ensure the stability of the village.
The head of the Uchiha clan only let his guard down in front of his son, Itachi.
His (Itachi's) biggest mission was to ensure the harmony between Uchiha and Konoha.
Konoha and Uchiha can be said to be on good terms.
However, an unthinkable incident took place.
A mystery hanged in the past in Konoha of which someone tried to kidnap the baby in which Kyuubi was sealed.
However, the plan ended in failure.
However, the Uchihas requested to be segregated from Konoha.
In response to that, it seemed that the Uchiha clan once again was plotting a coup d'etat, and even Itachi could not stop them.
Neither could he abort the initial plan to ensure stability in the "village".
The mission's scenario was greatly changed.
To ensure the peace in the village, Uchiha clan must be destroyed...
Then, to make sure that the responsibility for the massacre of the Uchiha clan did not fall into Konoha's hands, the actual murderer Itachi, could not be killed either.
Tainted by the fate of the survival of the Uchiha's blood, he placed this matter into his own younger brother's hands

To the outsiders...
What follows after that must be recorded
It's concluded to be the best plan to ensure that peace prevails thereafter.
Not allowed to survive.
Suicide is not an option
You have to...
let the brother that you love end your life...
This is what Konoha wants and it must be carried out no matter what...
The mission that was imposed on Itachi
was to be killed by you...
This was the mission that Itachi was given.
For the sake of Konoha, he went against his clan and carried a burden that would crush normal people.

Itachi carries a stain in his name till the day he dies.
The future generation will continue to speak of Itachi
in Konoha, he will be known as a missing nin who knew not shame...
in other villages, a murderer who killed his clan...
he will forever be recorded in the Shinobi world as a criminal
he will not be understood by anyone...

This was...
Itachi's final mission
Itachi carried out his missions flawlessly.
However, he wanted to tell this to you only it seems
In your memories...he wanted to remain in your memories
not as a ninja, but as an elder brother
However, he was not allowed to tell you this from his own words
Even his most trusted peers in the Akatsuki (were not told)...
However, I have a responsibility
I spoke of the truth.

Sasuke, this is not recorded in history and this has never been told to anyone. This is the Itachi that remains in your heart...
... a return report

Everything for the sake of Konoha, throwing away his reputation and life
Hence, Itachi is a hero
Itachi is truly. Credit to Itgm
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Old 2008-05-14, 19:32   Link #11
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HAHAHAHA!!! If the above spoiler is true, then it is not similar to Metal Gear 3 as I thought - it is EXACTLY the same plot
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Old 2008-05-14, 20:12   Link #12
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I wonder what happened to the Obito is Tobi activists, did they completely ignore recent chapters and stopped posting or did they realize the errors in what they said?
realized their mistake and ran away, hoping someone like you wouldnt bring it up anymore so they can come back and post again.
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Old 2008-05-14, 20:29   Link #13
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Itachi decided to put the stability of the village as priority, considering the past experience. He decided to work as double spy, transfering information, which led to the decision of the destruction of the clan. The only condition was to not harm his younger brother [Sasuke]. Credits Alterno
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Old 2008-05-14, 22:05   Link #14
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I'm hoping the backstory continues, to be honest. I'd love to see how it all ties together, if you know what I mean. Then again, I wouldn't mind getting back to Naruto and the others, either.
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Old 2008-05-14, 22:14   Link #15
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i wouldnt mind a small break to know what happens to tsunade when she learns of J's death and who pain is.
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Old 2008-05-14, 22:36   Link #16
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Sasuke's gonna need even more therapy now he has to deal with the fact that his brother was ordered by his village to kill his family and his brother lost his life fighting him and we thought Sasuke was Emo before
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Old 2008-05-15, 00:00   Link #17
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Spoiler
Itachi entered Anbu as a spy, but as he leaked information to the village side, he was a double spy

Because Itachi experienced a war when he was 4, he thought that the stability of the village came first

So he had no choice but obliterating the clan

The Third tried to compromise, but there was no time before that night

Becoming a missing-nin was also his instructions

But Itachi made one mistake

He didn't kill his brother

He asked the Third to protect Sasuke, threatened Danzou to lay off Sasuke, and left.

I seems that from the beginning, Itachi intended to die and leave his powers to Sasuke

The one who came up with this strategy was probably Danzou. That's why, before leaving the village, he told Danzou that if he laid a finger on Sasuke, he would tell other countries about this, and they would destroy Konoha

As for Madara, far from leading the revenge, he gave the condition that they would be annihilated

The leader of the coup d'etat was Sasuke's father
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Old 2008-05-15, 00:30   Link #18
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So far, my favourite spoiler had Itachi getting angry and gaining the MS. Specifically, Itachi was accused of a crime he did not commit, and ended up being so angry over it that he developed the MS (I can just imagine Itachi saying "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" ). Truly crazy.
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Old 2008-05-15, 00:34   Link #19
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I wonder what happened to the Obito is Tobi activists, did they completely ignore recent chapters and stopped posting or did they realize the errors in what they said?
Prolly realized that Madara's face is wrinkley and old (from what little we saw) and realized that Obito would obviously be much less older looking, but more smashed up.
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Old 2008-05-15, 01:43   Link #20
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then.. when we get to danzou's background, we find out he's not also evil :P hahaha seems only orochimaru's evil
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