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Old 2008-10-06, 13:57   Link #81
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Code:
x264 - core 65 r998M 6768543 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=5 psy_rd=0.0:0.0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=2 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=811 ratetol=0.5 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=1:1.00
This one isn't from Chihiro. It wasn't a stream either.
Hints: New season anime, 1024x576

It's not nearly as messed up, but very strange choices for ref, bframes, ratetol
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Old 2008-10-06, 15:50   Link #82
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Really strange x264 settings might just be remuxed raws:
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x264 - core 59 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=5 brdo=0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=4 chroma_me=0 trellis=0 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=4 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=2 b_pyramid=0 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=0 bime=0 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=cqp qp=22 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=0
I thought the education efforts on 2ch were going better than this, it's an x264 avi too...
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Old 2008-10-06, 17:11   Link #83
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I thought the education efforts on 2ch were going better than this, it's an x264 avi too...
Was about to download one last night when I changed my mind.
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Old 2008-10-07, 11:00   Link #84
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The one I posted about had hardsub karaoke, so it's not a remuxed raw
Usually raws use crf mode to encode, so it's not as bad, though most of them seem to use 22 for some reason... 17 or 18 would've been good.
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Old 2008-10-10, 11:46   Link #85
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I have one problem ;<

I was encoded two karaoke, one- opening, two- ending.

Wiht opening all is ok:
Code:
http://pi.fastbighost.com/~rein/warsztat/VKG/VKop.mkv
But ending..
On this same settings are shit quality, and pixels ;<

Code:
http://pi.fastbighost.com/~rein/warsztat/VKG/VK2_ed.mkv
why?

Im encoding wiht megui, and H.264, profile:



and bitrate 1150.

Why?
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Old 2008-10-17, 03:40   Link #86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by comatose View Post
Code:
x264 - core 65 r998M 6768543 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=5 psy_rd=0.0:0.0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=2 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=811 ratetol=0.5 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=1:1.00
This one isn't from Chihiro. It wasn't a stream either.
Hints: New season anime, 1024x576

It's not nearly as messed up, but very strange choices for ref, bframes, ratetol
Aerosubs? Their public avs scripts are fun to read over, same goes for their x264 headers~

@tymek88: Those links do not work. As for your screenshot, maybe posting what settings you are actually using instead of some baseless profile that only megui users would understand may help. Make your own profile. Chances are, your avs or your raw itself are bad and thats whats doing it. Post something that will actually shed light please.

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Old 2008-10-17, 14:18   Link #87
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Aerosubs? Their public avs scripts are fun to read over, same goes for their x264 headers~

@tymek88: Those links do not work. As for your screenshot, maybe posting what settings you are actually using instead of some baseless profile that only megui users would understand may help. Make your own profile. Chances are, your avs or your raw itself are bad and thats whats doing it. Post something that will actually shed light please.

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I think comatose's x264 headers are from Himatsubishi's (Ayako) HYAKKO 01, not Aero. At least the headers match perfectly when extracted.
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Old 2008-10-26, 10:45   Link #88
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to be honest, I couldn't spot much errors because I'm new to x264 encoding (did only xvid before), and apart from b-frames and such familiar things I dont really know what all that stuff means^^

I just doing my first tries with x264 in mkv (better late than never) and would really appreciate if someone could look over my header in order to spot serious errors and help me to avoid bad encodings:

Code:
x264 - core 65 r998M 6768543 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=8 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x113 me=umh subme=7 psy_rd=0.6:0.0 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=2 8x8dct=1 cqm=2 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=-2 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=16 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=2 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=0 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=1000 ratetol=1.0 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=0
btw: is there a good guide or explanation for beginners, I'm not understanding everything in the x264 documentation.
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:00   Link #89
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Here's some more info about x264 settings: http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings

You might want to consider crf encoding, as it always gives you the quality you want.
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:19   Link #90
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the most settings are pretty clear now, but I have another question:

the most of you seem to use "brdo=1", but its not in the newest version anymore (I hope I got this right). So, what is the replacement for it? Somewhere I read that "subme=8" covers it, is this right?

Last edited by Kageri; 2008-10-26 at 14:35. Reason: question is solved now
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Old 2008-10-26, 19:22   Link #91
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the most settings are pretty clear now, but I have another question:

the most of you seem to use "brdo=1", but its not in the newest version anymore (I hope I got this right). So, what is the replacement for it? Somewhere I read that "subme=8" covers it, is this right?
New subme options will be organized as follows:

subme6: RD on I/P frames
subme7: RD on all frames
subme8: RD refinement on I/P frames
subme9: RD refinement on all frames

new subme 6 = old subme 6
new subme 7 = old subme 6 + b-rdo
new subme 8 = old subme 7 + b-rdo
new subme 9 = didn't exist, RD refinement in B-frames is completely new.

RD refinement in B-frames consists of qpel-RD as in P-frames, and also RD-bime for bidir blocks. Overall the speed cost for this option should be less than old subme6->7 (new subme7->8).

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...67#post1190267
http://git.videolan.org/gitweb.cgi?p...703970b4f14e18
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Old 2008-10-27, 13:16   Link #92
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to be honest, I couldn't spot much errors because I'm new to x264 encoding (did only xvid before), and apart from b-frames and such familiar things I dont really know what all that stuff means^^

I just doing my first tries with x264 in mkv (better late than never) and would really appreciate if someone could look over my header in order to spot serious errors and help me to avoid bad encodings:

Code:
x264 - core 65 r998M 6768543 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=8 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x113 me=umh subme=7 psy_rd=0.6:0.0 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=2 8x8dct=1 cqm=2 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=-2 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=16 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=2 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=0 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=1000 ratetol=1.0 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=0
btw: is there a good guide or explanation for beginners, I'm not understanding everything in the x264 documentation.
Try this page.
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Old 2008-11-04, 21:04   Link #93
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Someone linked this to me earlier, I think this serves as a firm example of what not to do.

Source Raw: http://i33.tinypic.com/auk3gz.png
Final Encode: http://i34.tinypic.com/vhu8p4.png
Avinaptic: http://dpaste.com/88799/

It's not Aero, GG or that other one... Para-something. Not naming any names.
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Old 2008-11-04, 23:47   Link #94
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:06   Link #95
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Someone linked this to me earlier, I think this serves as a firm example of what not to do.

Source Raw: http://i33.tinypic.com/auk3gz.png
Final Encode: http://i34.tinypic.com/vhu8p4.png
Avinaptic: http://dpaste.com/88799/

It's not Aero, GG or that other one... Para-something. Not naming any names.
Exias, you took screen shot of someone else's video, posted it with a mocking comment and gave no helpful explanations of how to do to fix it.

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Insults, harassment, flaming, trolling, baiting or other similar abusive behaviour towards other members of The Forum will not be tolerated. This includes the use of "retort images". Images used to convey a "come back" message (i.e. to "retort") are forbidden in all areas of The Forum, they are often offensive and only serve to ignite flame wars.
In other words you did just about everything possible to break that rule.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:44   Link #96
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Exias, you took screen shot of someone else's video, posted it with a mocking comment and gave no helpful explanations of how to do to fix it.
butthurt encoder of the file in question spotted

that said you could start with not filtering it at all
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Old 2008-11-05, 01:44   Link #97
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In other words you did just about everything possible to break that rule.
I don't see anyone who's a member of whatever group that screenshot is from. Unless you're saying you are? (In which case, grow a skin)

Last edited by xris; 2008-11-05 at 09:58. Reason: Thanks but it's best to just Report such posts instead of replying to them :)
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Old 2008-11-05, 02:07   Link #98
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Originally Posted by Exias View Post
Someone linked this to me earlier, I think this serves as a firm example of what not to do.

Source Raw: http://i33.tinypic.com/auk3gz.png
Final Encode: http://i34.tinypic.com/vhu8p4.png
Avinaptic: http://dpaste.com/88799/

It's not Aero, GG or that other one... Para-something. Not naming any names.
Here's the same frame from an unaltered broadcast source:
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Old 2008-11-05, 06:06   Link #99
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Wow, such a harsh reply.

Someone sent me links to the image and Avinaptic output last night, and after seeing the drastic reduction in quality of the final encode; I thought it was appropriate to put it in here.

Hell, if I ever encoded something that badly, I'd expect everyone to do the same thing.

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Insults, harassment, flaming, trolling, baiting or other similar abusive behaviour towards other members of The Forum will not be tolerated.
I don't think that rule applies to a generic encode screen shot, when no names are mentioned. There is no flaming or harassment in my post, as opposed to the posts of two certain users now in this thread.

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Nicestboat, aye; looks considerably different.
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Old 2008-11-05, 06:46   Link #100
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Whoever made it has no idea what most of the x264 options do. It's also either an old encode or that of someone who needs to figure out what update means. And to stop filtering period.

@Kioshi: Fluff-chan offered some decent advice, how is telling him to fuck off appropriate? You may also want to find someone to grammar nazi your posts so that people can read them comprehensibly.

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