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Old 2013-06-23, 21:21   Link #261
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Haru, being the main heroine and best girl doesn't have a bad end because even fate won't let you screw up with her.
Actually, one may argue that every other heroine good and bad ending are essentially bad end for her.
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Old 2013-06-23, 22:01   Link #262
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Actually, one may argue that every other heroine good and bad ending are essentially bad end for her.
Why is that? She moved on with her life, which is hardly an bad ending. Compared to the other three. When I watched the true ending with the 3 girls meeting you in prison, it always implied in another life, you should had stuck around for them 3 rather than Haru.
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Old 2013-06-23, 22:33   Link #263
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I can't exactly say she "moved on with her life" considering anything Maou related is absolutely not solved outside of her route.
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Old 2013-06-23, 22:37   Link #264
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It's quite true. She would be forever taunted with the demon for the rest of her life.

Kyousuke had to take the fall for her, because she alone could not overcome Maou in his games or even on the psychological level. Neither of them could individually. Even if Maou should fall, he would take down at least one of them.

But for all the cynicism and practicality this story has, that ending would be one of the most heartwrenching and heaertwarming ever.
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Old 2013-06-23, 23:08   Link #265
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Wtb G Senjou or Sharin no Kuni VN anime adaptation. Probably will never happen. Or someone like DEEN will do it in which case it's better if it's not made in the first place.

Seriously, the last top tier VN anime adaptation I watched was ef tale of memories. Possibly Clannad AS if it wasn't for the shitty ending. But since then, absolutely nothing. Even something like Mashi-iro and KoiChoco were decent at best.
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Old 2013-06-24, 00:15   Link #266
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Wtb G Senjou or Sharin no Kuni VN anime adaptation. Probably will never happen. Or someone like DEEN will do it in which case it's better if it's not made in the first place.

Seriously, the last top tier VN anime adaptation I watched was ef tale of memories. Possibly Clannad AS if it wasn't for the shitty ending. But since then, absolutely nothing. Even something like Mashi-iro and KoiChoco were decent at best.
While G-Sen can have Fuku-Jun for both protag and Maou voices, how would one animate Sharin? Having a First-Person View? That would be a pretty weird anime
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Old 2013-06-24, 10:52   Link #267
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I can't exactly say she "moved on with her life" considering anything Maou related is absolutely not solved outside of her route.
Who knows, maybe she and Maou forgive each other and got married

But sillyness aside, it appear she didn't end up dead (At least in Tubaski's ending), and has a life of her own, so it works.
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Old 2013-06-24, 10:58   Link #268
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Then, every other heroine bad ends "work" as well by your definition, since they still have their "life of their own".
I can't consider something "works" when the said character is actually stuck with their predicament ad eternam. Dying isn't exactly a requirement for a bad end, and sometimes it is actually better than what some VN character might endure in some scenarios.
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Old 2013-06-24, 11:08   Link #269
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Then, every other heroine bad ends "work" as well by your definition, since they still have their "life of their own".
I can't consider something "works" when the said character is actually stuck with their predicament ad eternam. Dying isn't exactly a requirement for a bad end, and sometimes it is actually better than what some VN character might endure in some scenarios.
I just find it interesting at the end, where the three girls meet Azai, and he comment to himself in another life he would had done a better job to take care of them, and non of this would happened (remember, in order to get Haru's ending he would have to abandon the first three girls like a heartless bastard when they need him the most)

I personally find it the most awful part of the story =/, I personally think it would be better if the story branch three ways then Haru, rather than T->K->S->H order.
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Old 2013-06-24, 11:31   Link #270
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Actually, the side heroines issues emerge if you reach their routes. If you remain on the main route, most of their predicament wouldn't occur (save some points, such like Mizuha/Yuki and Kanon and her mother to a certain extent).
Bear in mind that a lot of what's going on with the side heroines do -not- occur if you remain on the main route anyway.

And this type of storytelling is actually the most logical due to the setup with Maou. A branching right from the get go with Haru at the end of it regardless of the former would be pretty bad, due to how poorly the side heroine would be implemented for Haru's route. In fact, no matter how you look at it, it would be shoehorned.
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Old 2013-06-25, 13:26   Link #271
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Which is why I think it needs an extra route or re-telling in a new version or something.
Pretty much every VN has its shares of plotholes, like Ever17.
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Old 2013-06-25, 22:29   Link #272
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I just finished Kanon't route....

Spoiler for Spoiler on Kanon ending:
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