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Old 2010-12-27, 16:06   Link #3381
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That seems pretty out there. Rin wouldn't have been trolled so hard so constantly if she didn't trust him. The only evidence we have that suggests she dislikes him is her own words, which are unreliable considering that's not what her actions suggest.


She has been trolled by Kirei in every single route because she trusted him. And I'd call it on a personal level considering she seemed to be pretty shocked each time, except in HF because she apparently never realized it.
Really, you don't trust someones words completely and without question unless you trust them on a personal level. So no, trusting someone on a "professional level" doesn't make sense.
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Old 2010-12-27, 18:34   Link #3382
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There's a difference between trusting someone and not expecting them to have murdered your father or attempt to kill you....
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Old 2010-12-27, 18:40   Link #3383
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Wow... let's keep the Zero spoilers out, thank you.

And I just finished Arc's true end in Tsukihime. One of the best things about playing Tsukihime is seeing just how much Nasu learned when he made F/SN. I can see clear improvements in many things when I compare the two. Not to say Tsukihime is bad, but F/SN is just better.
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Old 2010-12-27, 19:14   Link #3384
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Erm, that's not a "Zero spoiler", because it's specifically mentioned in FSN....
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Old 2010-12-27, 19:16   Link #3385
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It is? Why don't I remember something as big as that? Blast it all.

My apologies.
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Old 2010-12-27, 19:59   Link #3386
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It is? Why don't I remember something as big as that? Blast it all.

My apologies.
Yeah, it was mentioned in UBW. I don't think Kotomine said it outright, but his wording implied enough for Rin to catch on to what he was saying, and she pretty much realized it then... not helped by the fact that when she said he'd done it, he pretty much confirmed it.
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Old 2010-12-27, 23:53   Link #3387
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Pretty sure it was said in Fate too. That he killed her father with the same Azoth Dagger that he gave her, and then Shirou killed him with it. He was bemused by the irony.
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Old 2010-12-28, 13:25   Link #3388
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Well I finished Arcueid's route on Tsukihime, and even went ahead to get the Good End. Surprised out how much they added into the manga and how much they cut out for the anime.

I honestly found a lot of things scary in this game aswell. That music can be quite chilling and some of sprites are scary.
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Old 2010-12-30, 09:37   Link #3389
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Pretty sure it was said in Fate too. That he killed her father with the same Azoth Dagger that he gave her, and then Shirou killed him with it. He was bemused by the irony.
Did Kotomine kill Kiritsugu too? I am remembering him hinting at killing him toward Shirou, but am not sure from where.

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Well I finished Arcueid's route on Tsukihime, and even went ahead to get the Good End. Surprised out how much they added into the manga and how much they cut out for the anime.

I honestly found a lot of things scary in this game aswell. That music can be quite chilling and some of sprites are scary.
The music is definitely creepy, but there are only a few tracks in the entire game. I am really happy they got a bigger BGM budget for F/SN.
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Old 2010-12-30, 10:02   Link #3390
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Kiritsugu killed Kotomine. the contamination from the Holy Grail is what eventually killed Kiritsugu.
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Old 2010-12-30, 12:49   Link #3391
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Did Kotomine kill Kiritsugu too? I am remembering him hinting at killing him toward Shirou, but am not sure from where.
Yes. I'd have to check the scene, but I believe Kotomine implied that after their fight at the end of the 4th War, he used one of the curses in the Grail against Kiritsugu and that is what eventually killed him.
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Old 2010-12-30, 13:18   Link #3392
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I don't think Kotomine used it, merely that it happened. He seemed overjoyed at the prospect of being able to kill Shirou, since he embodied everything he hated about Kiritsugu.
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Old 2010-12-30, 23:46   Link #3393
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Yes. I'd have to check the scene, but I believe Kotomine implied that after their fight at the end of the 4th War, he used one of the curses in the Grail against Kiritsugu and that is what eventually killed him.
Really? I was under the impression the contamination from the Grail is what eventually killed Kiritsugu, not that Kotomine actively cursed Kiritsugu.
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Old 2010-12-31, 07:35   Link #3394
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I don't think Kotomine used it, merely that it happened. He seemed overjoyed at the prospect of being able to kill Shirou, since he embodied everything he hated about Kiritsugu.

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Really? I was under the impression the contamination from the Grail is what eventually killed Kiritsugu, not that Kotomine actively cursed Kiritsugu.
As I said, I'd have to check the scene and I don't have access to the game until tomorrow night. But I seem to recall Kotomine being way too 'gloaty' for him to have not been somehow involved, and Shirou definitely thought something along the lines of 'this man killed my father'.
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Old 2010-12-31, 12:23   Link #3395
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I'm not sure where to post this so i'll just say it here. Has anyone read Angel Notes? I just read it now and ti's really quite good. I especially liked the three questions (which reminded me a lot of Mujun Rasen). It would make a great OVA.
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Old 2010-12-31, 12:24   Link #3396
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What's Angel Notes?
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Old 2011-01-10, 17:18   Link #3397
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Look what you've made me do!

I finished Ciel and Akiha's route on Tsukihime by the way. I didn't think much of Ciel's route until:

Spoiler for Ciel's route:


As for Akiha's route:

Spoiler for Akiha's route:
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Old 2011-01-10, 17:20   Link #3398
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Yeah. I am doing Ciel's now and just entered her individual branch.
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Old 2011-01-10, 17:35   Link #3399
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Spoiler for Akiha's route:
Spoiler for Akiha's route:

<3 Akiha route
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Old 2011-01-10, 18:48   Link #3400
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As for Akiha's route:

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You should read A Story for the Evening then, if you haven't already
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