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Old 2014-02-15, 16:35   Link #2701
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*reads the last chapter*

If he went out of control? In a way he already is, at least his ego anyway. That in itself makes me wonder if Gengo's going to be cut down in some fashion in this arc. The death flag has already gone up in a sense, let's just hope it's not another troll on IDY's part, he's notorious for that.
I'm actually expecting a troll, because no way Gengo is going to die.

Anyway, has it been confirmed that Kazuya's mom was referring to Cassandra as the monster and not Kazuya?
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Old 2014-02-15, 17:52   Link #2702
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I'm actually expecting a troll, because no way Gengo is going to die.

Anyway, has it been confirmed that Kazuya's mom was referring to Cassandra as the monster and not Kazuya?
She did say
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"That thing... is not my child!!"
"That... that thing is a monster!!"
and also judging from the fact that Cassandra was the one who took care of Kazuya when he was a baby, instead of his parents.
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Old 2014-02-15, 18:36   Link #2703
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I'm actually expecting a troll, because no way Gengo is going to die.

Anyway, has it been confirmed that Kazuya's mom was referring to Cassandra as the monster and not Kazuya?
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She did say and also judging from the fact that Cassandra was the one who took care of Kazuya when he was a baby, instead of his parents.
There has been a discussion about that and some have concluded that it was a mistranslation and that it was in fact Kazuya that was being called a monster rather than it being Cassandra.

Despite all that Cassandra's has done for Kazuya's sake, I couldn't imagine her being a monster.
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Old 2014-02-15, 20:56   Link #2704
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*reads the last chapter*

If he went out of control? In a way he already is, at least his ego anyway. That in itself makes me wonder if Gengo's going to be cut down in some fashion in this arc. The death flag has already gone up in a sense, let's just hope it's not another troll on IDY's part, he's notorious for that.
If Gengo's cut down, what would be Maria's reaction/response?

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Old 2014-02-15, 22:03   Link #2705
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The way they said Scarlet broke down as a woman, it sure sounded like there was implied rape...
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Old 2014-02-16, 00:12   Link #2706
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If Gengo's cut down, what would be Maria's reaction/response?
I thought maria was dead
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Old 2014-02-16, 00:51   Link #2707
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Old 2014-02-16, 12:11   Link #2708
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The way they said Scarlet broke down as a woman, it sure sounded like there was implied rape...
Failing as a woman just means her feelings never reached Gendo.
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Old 2014-02-17, 13:39   Link #2709
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Failing as a woman just means her feelings never reached Gendo.
I see what you did there.
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Old 2014-02-17, 14:06   Link #2710
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back to subject on kazuya's and cassandra's relationship, is there a possibility that cassandra is
Spoiler for possibility:
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Old 2014-02-17, 14:12   Link #2711
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back to subject on kazuya's and cassandra's relationship, is there a possibility that cassandra is
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Didn't Gendo say that she is kazuya's aunt
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Old 2014-02-17, 15:01   Link #2712
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Didn't Gendo say that she is kazuya's aunt
yes she is but what i mean by surragate means cassandra was pregnant with him but genetically Kazuya's mom is still his mom, i'm saying his relationship with her is sort of like his father's with his fake grandmother's, and considering having a child with a stigmatic body can't be good on the mother who doesn't have one and she already had kazuha i doubt his mother could've had kazuya
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Old 2014-02-17, 19:36   Link #2713
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I've only read up to ch. 148, where Gengo meets with Scarlett Ohare (wheelchair bound).

I don't quite understand what's going on in this arc...any care to enlighten me?
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Old 2014-02-18, 00:54   Link #2714
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yes she is but what i mean by surragate means cassandra was pregnant with him but genetically Kazuya's mom is still his mom, i'm saying his relationship with her is sort of like his father's with his fake grandmother's, and considering having a child with a stigmatic body can't be good on the mother who doesn't have one and she already had kazuha i doubt his mother could've had kazuya
So I'm not the only one who has this theory. I had theorized that Cassandra was Kazuya's surrogate mother.

1. Cassandra treats Kazuya as her own son.
2. She loves Kazuya as if he were her own child and is very affectionate and protective of him.
3. And has breastfed Kazuya when he was an infant.

If this turns out to be the case I wouldn't be surprised.

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I've only read up to ch. 148, where Gengo meets with Scarlett Ohare (wheelchair bound).

I don't quite understand what's going on in this arc...any care to enlighten me?
Start from chapter 143 and read on.
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Old 2014-02-18, 02:04   Link #2715
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Kazuya's mother did not want to care for him (as far as we know), so Cassandra, being the sister of his father, became the 'mother' of Kazuya - fulfilling the role and yes, that includes breastfeeding.

Being a 'non-human', she didn't have any thoughts that breastfeeding an infant that she didn't bear herself was 'wrong' in any sense. She saw a baby that shared blood with her and she wanted to care for it. Despite it all, Cassandra obviously has a strong maternal instinct despite being a Legendary Pandora. Still, such a shame that we didn't see Kazuya interact with 'Aunty Chiffron' any more.
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Old 2014-02-18, 08:02   Link #2716
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I've only read up to ch. 148, where Gengo meets with Scarlett Ohare (wheelchair bound).

I don't quite understand what's going on in this arc...any care to enlighten me?
It seems Gengo is trying to create an organization separate from Chevalier,
using powerful pandoras like the Legendary Pandoras and Transcended Pandoras(like Satellizer&Rana).
The higher ups are afraid of Gengo, so they cooked up a plan to have him assassinated(which Gengo already knows about but doesn't really seem to care).
Spoiler for After ch148:
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Old 2014-02-22, 22:01   Link #2717
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I thought maria was dead
Cat's out of the bag now with the latest translated chapter.


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Old 2014-02-26, 13:04   Link #2718
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any new raws recently?
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Old 2014-02-26, 13:07   Link #2719
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any new raws recently?
Go to the publisher's site for Freezing.
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Old 2014-02-26, 13:35   Link #2720
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The publisher's site doesn't host the latest chapters, their nico channel does.
New chapters will be out on Friday, or some time during the weekend.
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