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Old 2008-10-06, 02:38   Link #381
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XD Luke is like a tsundere guy. Usually kinda hostile/bratty but has his good moments, which he quickly covers up with a "don't get the wrong idea!"
I have a feeling if Luke was a girl, he'll be a lot more popular. (since everyone seems to like tsundere girls)
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Old 2008-10-06, 02:47   Link #382
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I have a feeling if Luke was a girl, he'll be a lot more popular. (since everyone seems to like tsundere girls)
Well, genderbending has become quite popular as of late. It wouldn't be that strange to come across an image of "Luka-chan" in the future.
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Old 2008-10-06, 02:51   Link #383
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Actually, I found Luke to be a breath of fresh air. He isn't the usual silent or emo, or goody-two-shoes protagonist that you would expect to star in a typical JRPG. He's an ass. Now there is a limit of course, but ah, I think I should leave it at that before I spoil anything unintentionally.

Heck, Luke was the #2 favorite character in Namco's poll the last time I checked—even beating Jade. (Leon is still #1 of course.) And there was this one poll conducted by a magazine that was separated by categories, and if I'm not mistaken Luke got #1 for hero, with Tear as #1 heroine—a rare moment wherein Leon got beaten.

I'm not so sure now with Tales of Vesperia, but yes, Tales of the Abyss is still one of the more popular Tales games right now.
Well, there's a gap between the western versus Japan's opinion on Luke's character from beginning to the end. The former just wants to sock him in the face (( especially in the 2nd half )), while the latter wants to give him a hug.

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XD Luke is like a tsundere guy. Usually kinda hostile/bratty but has his good moments, which he quickly covers up with a "don't get the wrong idea!"
I have a feeling if Luke was a girl, he'll be a lot more popular. (since everyone seems to like tsundere girls)
You know what they say.
Tsundere girls = moe~.
Tsundere boys = assholes.
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Old 2008-10-06, 02:58   Link #384
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Well, there's a gap between the western versus Japan's opinion on Luke's character from beginning to the end. The former just wants to sock him in the face (( especially in the 2nd half )), while the latter wants to give him a hug.
Well, I've heard from a good number of Luke fans from this side of the world (and by "this side of the world," I mean "this side of the internet"), but yeah that seems to be true.

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Old 2008-10-06, 03:00   Link #385
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Actually, I found Luke to be a breath of fresh air. He isn't the usual silent or emo, or goody-two-shoes protagonist that you would expect to star in a typical JRPG. He's an ass. Now there is a limit of course, but ah, I think I should leave it at that before I spoil anything unintentionally.
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For typical JRPG protagonist, I don't think silent, emo or goody two shoes are the typical ones. I would say, those who gets mysterious past of some sorts are

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I'm not so sure now with Tales of Vesperia, but yes, Tales of the Abyss is still one of the more popular Tales games right now.
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There are a lot of guys in the story. I mean, it's almost as if Namco had a fujoshi writing the story from the sidelines just to cater to the female fanbase.
Vouch one for that Although there is another reason of why there are a lot of fujoshis in Tales Fandom...

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Well, genderbending has become quite popular as of late. It wouldn't be that strange to come across an image of "Luka-chan" in the future.
Dear, Daniel E., you just jinxed the fandom. And I shall present you, RuKo-CHAN!!



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Old 2008-10-06, 03:02   Link #386
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Old 2008-10-06, 03:04   Link #387
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Vouch one for that Although there is another reason of why there are a lot of fujoshis in Tales Fandom...
Well, there's Guy and his gynophobia... I mean seriously, gynophobia? And that shot of Luke and Asch in the ED? I call that "bait."

So I might regret asking this...

What other reason is there?
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Old 2008-10-06, 03:16   Link #388
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Well, there's Guy and his gynophobia... I mean seriously, gynophobia? And that shot of Luke and Asch in the ED? I call that "bait."

So I might regret asking this...

What other reason is there?
Luke. He himself is the whole reason of fujoshis certain obsession A guy who needs a hug in a series with a lot of (lovable) male characters? Our imagination move so fast that it may exceed normal thinking, dear

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For Jade... Well, sadist and maso relationship. Though I have to rephrase it to sadist and Tsundere relationship to fit them

P.S: What I mean by Tales Fandom is not limited to Abyss only. Symphonia get a little or some attention from fujoshis too. Perhaps you don't know, but Innocence have a rabid fujoshi fandoms too TOV gets the attention from both het and BL shippers, so it is a rather balanced Fandom.
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Old 2008-10-06, 03:22   Link #389
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P.S : I wonder where are all the fangirls that is supposed to see this adaptation due to... Ahem, the bait for certain type of fangirls... I'm seeing only "Tear is MOE" and all Tear... Though I really would wait until the anime reached the half-point of the game for some of material for my twisting *Hides certain type of fanarts until the materials are dropped *
I was going to say something but I didn't want to jinx this thread
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Old 2008-10-06, 03:41   Link #390
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A guy who needs a hug in a series with a lot of (lovable) male characters? Our imagination move so fast that it may exceed normal thinking, dear
You're right. It exceeds normal thinking.

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P.S: What I mean by Tales Fandom is not limited to Abyss only. Symphonia get a little or some attention from fujoshis too. Perhaps you don't know, but Innocence have a rabid fujoshi fandoms too TOV gets the attention from both het and BL shippers, so it is a rather balanced Fandom.
Oh, that's to be expected within Tales fandom.

And you know, your answers didn't surprise me in the least.

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I was going to say something but I didn't want to jinx this thread
Too late. I think I have unwittingly opened Pandora's box.
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Old 2008-10-06, 04:35   Link #391
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You're right. It exceeds normal thinking.
But you still love our kind for that kind of delusional thinking~

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And you know, your answers didn't surprise me in the least.

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As expected, huh? And female fanbase for TOA in Japan are more delusional than those in this forum Don't even try to get into their bad side if you still want your skin intact, guys

And boy, the description you give for Luke and Asch condition... Well, they fits perfectly seeing all the fanarts I have found for them

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I was going to say something but I didn't want to jinx this thread
Oh, you have not gotten me started on how I ship certain pairing in TOA (which I may do later in certain IRC channel when certain episode has met the requirement. ). I still haven't given the certain fanarts for TOA now since the hints are not enough... YET for shipping case

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Old 2008-10-06, 04:59   Link #392
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But you still love our kind for that kind of delusional thinking~
Well... I guess so. Women, you can't live with them, can't live without them. But you fujoshis tend to be crazy sometimes.

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Old 2008-10-06, 05:05   Link #393
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wtf? I just left momentarily and when I'm back this thread is filled with yaoi dellusions nonsense. As a fan I'm enraged and tempted to Mystic Arte'd all of 'em. Even on some of the Tales Forum they're already cleansed by these kind of purgatory and now this. Omg the horror. D:

and guys/girls could you please leave the later game discussions out of this? Most of the new viewers don't even know who Asch is judging only from the OP.
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Old 2008-10-06, 05:22   Link #394
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Old 2008-10-06, 05:23   Link #395
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Oh, you have not gotten me started on how I ship certain pairing in TOA (which I may do later in certain IRC channel when certain episode has met the requirement. ). I still haven't given the certain fanarts for TOA now since the hints are not enough... YET for shipping case
Crisis/Cheesie has already rambled on about her delusions about that pairing in IRC, no more I beg of you!
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Old 2008-10-06, 05:41   Link #396
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Oh well, TrueKnight is right though.

The sideline discussion at this point is now bordering on game spoilers. Sorry about that.

As for the yaoi talk, I'm just glad I'm not in Westlo's shoes.
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Old 2008-10-06, 05:47   Link #397
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Old 2008-10-06, 06:55   Link #398
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Sorry about that, Trueknight But actually I haven't even talked about it, just talk about the fans situation in Japan Though I should leave it there for now until the series progress, so that we don't have any more spoiler related again

And Kujoe, be glad that you are really not Westlo-Hearing/seeing 3 yaoi fangirls in its true fangirling mode out with one's ears and eyes is not healthy for your mind Poor Westlo has suffered the consequence of ridiculing my kinds... XD
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I exist to torture you, dear. Don't forget about that. And teaming up with cheese is one of the best way to straighten your delusional thinking of your harem of some sorts... Which I sadly say don't exist.
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Old 2008-10-06, 08:54   Link #399
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Jade's potential love interest.

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Old 2008-10-06, 10:14   Link #400
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How's the Osu! fansub? They're a pretty reputable group AFAIK.
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