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Old 2012-11-28, 18:12   Link #3421
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That's why science wise I see that hard to be possible.
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Old 2012-11-28, 19:11   Link #3422
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We have yet to see the exact mechanics behind Mental Out, but I suspect that the remote will be irrelevant, since all esper abilities work through the AIM system, which makes esper abilities tangible, unlike the magic system which "works differently", to say the least.

If any AIM "hand" cannot touch the Imagine Breaker and Touma in general, no esper can use their powers against him.
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Old 2012-11-28, 19:15   Link #3423
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Well unless it was played for fun, Misaki was rather 'troubled' when Fukiyose took away her handbag with the remote in it...

Even if it's just a means to focus her powers, it must be something important if she's always using it.
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Old 2012-11-28, 19:17   Link #3424
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Maybe she sends her AIM waves through the infra-red signal sent by the remote.
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Old 2012-11-28, 19:39   Link #3425
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We have yet to see the exact mechanics behind Mental Out, but I suspect that the remote will be irrelevant, since all esper abilities work through the AIM system, which makes esper abilities tangible, unlike the magic system which "works differently", to say the least.

If any AIM "hand" cannot touch the Imagine Breaker and Touma in general, no esper can use their powers against him.
Misaki's remote control is as important as Kuroyoyoru's arms in order to use her lances.
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Old 2012-11-28, 23:42   Link #3427
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He canceled some telepath girl (during Sherill attack) without having to put his hand above shoulders.
He didn't? Well, it doesn't matter that much. My point was that as long as he doesn't touch/severe that "wire" thing (like putting his hand inside a electromagnetic shielding box or something), then it should work.
Though just like Chaos said the main issue is about IB being able to cancel the effects or not.

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Misaki's remote control is as important as Kuroyoyoru's arms in order to use her lances.
eh ... how can you be sure about that? I highly doubt she discovered her powers after accidentally "pausing" someone with the use a remote control ... it's so obvious it can't be true.

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^or Awaki's(?) flashlight.
She can teleport without her flashlight though
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Old 2012-11-28, 23:48   Link #3428
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She can teleport without her flashlight though
And you can shoot a gun without looking down it's sights, but that don't make it a good idea
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Old 2012-11-29, 00:03   Link #3429
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The raw and translation is up.

Read the chapter and I can say with clear mind she is just playing with Mikoto.
Plus part of the information she said does not makes sense (Gensei should not be the leader of Member) and she hided the obvious - what is she planning to do with the clone.

speculation:
Uiharu was mind-controlled in her office like mentioned in previous chapter (though it was not directly said).
Why Kuroko and Saten aren't with her is unknown, but I believe they went either towards the judgement branch in district 2, or towards the person who took that photo - owner of that urban rumors site (maybe Saten knows that person).
So it's possible they will save the clone while Misaki is away.
(and the chance they will get forget everything from this day is again step closer)
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Old 2012-11-29, 00:14   Link #3430
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The raw and translation is up.

Read the chapter and I can say with clear mind she is just playing with Mikoto.
Plus part of the information she said does not makes sense (Gensei should not be the leader of Member) and she hided the obvious - what is she planning to do with the clone.

Well depends on who you count as the 'leader', the person in-charge of the team, or the guy behind the phone giving orders?

All we know about Member is that they answer directly to Aleister... And that's a very vague description.
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Old 2012-11-29, 04:40   Link #3431
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If she really is getting manipulated, that'd be pretty ... ironic.
Meh, why is it that Kamachi's protagonists are always so thickheaded when it comes to understand another person's mind/feelings?! ... all of them.
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Old 2012-11-29, 04:46   Link #3432
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If she really is getting manipulated, that'd be pretty ... ironic.
Meh, why is it that Kamachi's protagonists are always so thickheaded when it comes to understand another person's mind/feelings?! ... all of them.
Are you kidding? Kamijou has haxx psychological understanding of the human mind in the face of imminent danger!

God knows how he developed that skill set but I think all therapists should take a course in that while they're doing their degree.
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Old 2012-11-29, 05:23   Link #3433
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That's right, he was the only person who noticed that the Fiamma was a big wimp.
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Old 2012-11-29, 05:37   Link #3434
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Are you kidding? Kamijou has haxx psychological understanding of the human mind in the face of imminent danger!

God knows how he developed that skill set but I think all therapists should take a course in that while they're doing their degree.
Of course, romance is out of said expertise.
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Old 2012-11-29, 06:13   Link #3435
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Of course, romance is out of said expertise.
And yet he properly deduced that Stiyl and Eztali liked Index and Mikoto respectively

And probably Marian as well...
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Old 2012-11-29, 06:22   Link #3436
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And yet he properly deduced that Stiyl and Eztali liked Index and Mikoto respectively

And probably Marian as well...
Given how Eztali basically screamed out how he likes Mikoto, Kamachi would need divine writing skills to make Touma not comprehend Eztali's love
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Old 2012-11-29, 06:28   Link #3437
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Given how Eztali basically screamed out how he likes Mikoto, Kamachi would need divine writing skills to make Touma not comprehend Eztali's love
This is the same guy who went:


Itsuwa really wants to follow me to save Index = I didn't know Itsuwa and Index are such close friends...
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Old 2012-11-29, 06:35   Link #3438
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You've heard the phrase: "People can cut the hair of others, but not himself"?

That goes for the romance in the life of Touma.
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Old 2012-11-29, 07:45   Link #3439
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Eureka! Now I get it! I think he only understands the feelings of people he's already punched or will punch in the next few pages (basically those who were at some point the effective target of his right hand). That must be another one of his special abilities. Yeah, that must be it!
Which explains how he can tell how Kanzaki globally feels, and can joke about the Fallen Angel Ero maid thing so openly.
... Which also means, he'll realize about how those girls feel about him the day they'll become a target for his super special limb.
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Old 2012-11-29, 08:58   Link #3440
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The big question is: What kind of monster would become Touma if he hit him yourself with a falcon punch?
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