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Old 2012-10-12, 00:13   Link #20161
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These distortions reminds of Shakugan no Shana, actually.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:27   Link #20162
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Then what is what completed the change of era enough to mess Aleister's calculations and force him to go into a halt? (see Birdway's trolling Aleister at the epilogue).

EDIT:

Then I assume HR was the power for the former era, right?
Ollerus did not mention anything on HR at this point. So I'll just wait and see.

As for Aleister's dilemma. He couldn't manipulate the events around Imagine Breaker as well as he used to anymore. On top of that, people who is not himself is finding out the truth of Imagine Breaker, so he really lost his monopoly over the information.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:37   Link #20163
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These distortions reminds of Shakugan no Shana, actually.
Doesn't Horizon also have something along this line?
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:12   Link #20164
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And Naruto (darkneeeesssss) .

The deal is how is handled.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:17   Link #20165
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Not limiting to Anime, [Fringe] use this as their overarching Plot.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:38   Link #20166
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Touma IS incompetent

Fixed... but that last bit of information is really intersting.

So compared to Nasuverse basically touma have the blueprint of a "natural" base world, and he restore everything to that blueprint with IB.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:43   Link #20167
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Ah so Aleistier is losing it, that would be funny to see. Now all that's left is to find out what exactly is inside of it

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Touma IS incompetent

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Old 2012-10-12, 01:44   Link #20168
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Thats the worse outcome you can try to a master manipulator, normally and its been implied he is powerful but rather use subtlety if you corner him he would fight with everything he got.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:11   Link #20169
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So compared to Nasuverse basically touma have the blueprint of a "natural" base world, and he restore everything to that blueprint with IB.
This would support the explanation of why Imagine Breaker wouldn't affect the leyline.

However- how do we tell what magic is 'natural' or not? Gremlin seem to have figured out something about that. I wonder if Imagine Breaker 'not affecting the natural sideeffects of certain magic' still counts... Or is that a misconception by the characters as well....?
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:22   Link #20170
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A better way to explain that would be.... it doesn't matter.
Because no one can make the call but the IB.

And IB is more like the blue print itself.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:32   Link #20171
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A better way to explain that would be.... it doesn't matter.
Because no one can make the call but the IB.

And IB is more like the blue print itself.
That would just open itself to a lot of abuse, not by Kamijou himself, but by Kamachi.

I hope there's some some rule behind this.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:41   Link #20172
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Nah, it is really the same concept as Holy Right. And IB has more functional limitation when compared to it.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:44   Link #20173
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Well, since I haven't read the text yet, I'll just take your word for now.
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Old 2012-10-12, 03:34   Link #20174
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Touma IS incompetent

Fixed... but that last bit of information is really intersting.

So compared to Nasuverse basically touma have the blueprint of a "natural" base world, and he restore everything to that blueprint with IB.
...

I thought you said "Touma IS impotent" when I first saw that. I almost went insane...
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Old 2012-10-12, 05:03   Link #20175
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Why do I have that feeling that Aleister will eventually fail to restandardize the world and Touma will return every supernatural thing back to normal -> no espers, magicians nor majins.
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Old 2012-10-12, 05:32   Link #20176
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^ What the ... ?! Who would want to live in such a boring world?!
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Old 2012-10-12, 06:08   Link #20177
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^ What the ... ?! Who would want to live in such a boring world?!
Says you. Kehehehe. If anything, that would be doing a lot of people in the world a service. /snickers uncontrollably.
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Old 2012-10-12, 06:14   Link #20178
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We can not forget that Aleister came out to eliminate Fiamma beause he saw What is trully hidden inside that right hand
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Old 2012-10-12, 06:16   Link #20179
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Says you. Kehehehe. If anything, that would be doing a lot of people in the world a service. /snickers uncontrollably.

It might be fine for the people on the science side, but what about those Magician who had devoted their entire life to their craft? Not all of them are sociopaths and some of them can do good.

The change in political power, you don't think countries that are supported by magic would be thrown into chaos?

What about sentient supernatural creatures? Would you purge them as well?
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Old 2012-10-12, 06:23   Link #20180
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There there, the science side might suffer a little too. Academy City would lose its purpose (unless it turns into a 100% cutting edge technology developing city that is), some young espers might contract chuunibyou after the sudden loss of their powers. Though I do agree, the magic side will be totally doomed.
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