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Old 2012-11-06, 13:39   Link #21281
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I also don't understand what's the reason for calling Touma a level 0 if they already revealed he is not an esper though it will reflect on the idea that Touma is the weakest and the enemy is the strongest. Its a battle of weakest vs strongest and seriously Touma can't be consider strong. His above average but strong? nope. he is just happens to be an anti-alien being. Hamazura with assault rifle can kill him easily if he isn't prepared. Touma just happens to be had brains for battle and that's all there is to it. If he tries to look smart he ended up getting stupid or gets scolded by Thor.
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Old 2012-11-06, 13:52   Link #21282
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Do you remember the power chart guys?
Spoiler for Big Chart is long:
There is another version right?


I'm referring to this.
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Old 2012-11-06, 13:54   Link #21283
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Yeah there's a more new on that also have artifacts and items in general.
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Old 2012-11-06, 13:55   Link #21284
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Glad to see we will be starting the new year with a bang. After what happened in Volume 5, I'm looking forward to some explosive battles.
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Old 2012-11-06, 14:07   Link #21285
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Yeah there's a more new on that also have artifacts and items in general.
Care to post that one Xelloss?
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Old 2012-11-06, 14:38   Link #21286
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Do you remember the power chart guys?
Spoiler for Big Chart is long:
I don;t think that's all that accurate. For one thing it puts Fiamma below Misha despite him being stronger than her, which we know because he was able to tear her out of the sky and make her do his bidding (insert evil laugh here). Unless it's referring to the current Fiamma in which case my bad.

Besides power in the Raildex verse isn't exactly linear so a power level chart is always going to have problems.

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All the scene point that Birdway try to make him see that she took the bait...
...I didn't get that at all from the scene... in fact it seems to explicitly state that she did fall for it.

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Birdway called someone using her cell phone, narrowed her eyes, and said, “Yes, yes. That’s right. I met some interference but from an unexpected source. Gremlin has won over Kamijou Touma.”

She flipped through the student handbook with her bloody hands.

Birdway had not performed first aid for a purely sentimental reason. Since she had been thrown off the trail of the only person who they could get any kind of hint from, she had wanted a new source of information. She had also had that logical reason.

Kamijou Touma had been defeated, but she knew who was behind his actions.

With that fact in mind, Birdway continued speaking

“Kamijou Touma is working with…Marian Slingeneyer. He has her contact information written in his handbook. I can’t read the numbers though because sweat or something has made the ink run. At any rate, it seems Gremlin’s base is in District 12. If we want to crush them in a surprise attack, this would be the perfect chance to concentrate our forces.”
Both what she said and her internal monolouge say that she believed him.
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Old 2012-11-06, 14:52   Link #21287
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And thats what Kamichi want u to belive.
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Old 2012-11-06, 16:12   Link #21288
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And thats what Kamichi want u to belive.
And this is why I don't subscribe to 'Unnecessary Conspiracies'.

And what would Birdway gain from that? If she knows she's being tricked, why would she need to put on all that act in the first place?


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Js06 translated it a while ago:

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Bootleg was sent out and NT6 was in the January releases:
New Testament - A Certain Magical Index 6
The various "strongests" gather around the immortal being that escaped the windowless building. As a three-way struggle between Level 5, Saint, and Gremlin breaks out, the one who holds the key to it all is Kamijou Touma, a Level 0!!
Oh yeah, this time this synopsis is going to be totally accurate, right guys ?

Assuming it is- We only know one Saint and one full time member of Gremlin in the city... Marian sure is a hardworking girl eh -_- ?

But for the Level 5... It really could be anyone... Well, anyone except Misaki and Mikoto obviously.
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Old 2012-11-06, 16:33   Link #21289
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There is another version right?


I'm referring to this.
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Yes, that was the chart I was looking for.

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And what would Birdway gain from that? If she knows she's being tricked, why would she need to put on all that act in the first place?
Because like the incident on Hawaii she needs things to keep moving to the next phase.
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Old 2012-11-06, 16:40   Link #21290
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Because like the incident on Hawaii she needs things to keep moving to the next phase.
...Which is what exactly? Going through with the trickery ?

Have you guys thought of the simple solution of her just ignoring Kamijou if she didn't fell for the trap? How does putting up this act do anything?
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Old 2012-11-06, 16:51   Link #21291
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Do you remember the power chart guys?
Spoiler for Big Chart is long:
Is that the newest chart?
The only thing that is really surprising me is that Aureolus after 8 years is still so high up in the chart
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Old 2012-11-06, 18:23   Link #21292
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I also don't understand what's the reason for calling Touma a level 0 if they already revealed he is not an esper though it will reflect on the idea that Touma is the weakest and the enemy is the strongest. Its a battle of weakest vs strongest and seriously Touma can't be consider strong. His above average but strong? nope. he is just happens to be an anti-alien being. Hamazura with assault rifle can kill him easily if he isn't prepared. Touma just happens to be had brains for battle and that's all there is to it. If he tries to look smart he ended up getting stupid or gets scolded by Thor.
I think this discussion has been addressed several times already... I don't feel like looking for it, but there was supposed to be a part that stated that Touma was indeed taking the "curriculum".

Of course, maybe he's completely immune to it, but so far it's more likely that he is indeed an esper lvl 0. It's not like you cannot be something else in addition to being an esper, there's even a magician-esper after all.
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...Which is what exactly? Going through with the trickery ?

Have you guys thought of the simple solution of her just ignoring Kamijou if she didn't fell for the trap? How does putting up this act do anything?
I agree with you. If Touma hadn't been injured so much, she could have tried to fool him into believing his plan worked and then follow him to get to the root. But he was gravely injured and there was no telling if he would be available soon enough. Other than that, I don't know how she'd take advantage of playing along...

I think Leivinia really took the bait.
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Old 2012-11-06, 18:44   Link #21293
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Because it's symbolic; a level 0 is the lowest of the low in this society and he's going up against powerful people wielding out of this world abilities with only a right hand. This isn't like Mahouka where the protagonist is actually super haxx with multiple haxx powers and counting, Kamijou really is 'weak'.

But to put it in another way- what else would you call him? Being a Level 0 is his identity, sort of like a delinquent's pride.
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Old 2012-11-06, 18:51   Link #21294
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Those charts are old....

Here's the new one.

http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/csaloon/1335686688/

Spoiler for Power ranking courtesy of 2ch:
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Old 2012-11-06, 19:53   Link #21295
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so has there been a date set yet for NT6?
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Old 2012-11-06, 19:54   Link #21296
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Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin... The only thing left is to throw in Kihara again but why stop there?


Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin vs Kihara vs Knights vs Nuns vs Cyborgs vs Grimoires vs FiveOver vs Valkyries vs Magic God vs Cabal Boss vs Artificial Angels vs Aliens vs Kamijou Touma (?!).



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so has there been a date set yet for NT6?
Dengeki Bunko always release their books on the 10th of every month.

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Yess. I look forward to this January
And @Chaos if you could only be a little bit more excited
I'd been spamming refresh on my source site for the last 5 days

And yesterday, I was doing it every 15 minutes.

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Old 2012-11-06, 20:21   Link #21297
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Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin... The only thing left is to throw in Kihara again but why stop there?


Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin vs Kihara vs Knights vs Nuns vs Cyborgs vs Grimoires vs FiveOver vs Valkyries vs Magic God vs Cabal Boss vs Artificial Angels vs Aliens vs Kamijou Touma (?!).
Easy there, wouldn't AC explode with that? (if not the world)

... you only left out vampires...
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:19   Link #21298
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Easy there, wouldn't AC explode with that? (if not the world)

... you only left out vampires...
Hmmm...can't help but think someone's being left out
Oh well, carry on
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Old 2012-11-07, 09:16   Link #21299
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Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin... The only thing left is to throw in Kihara again but why stop there?


Level 5 vs Saint vs Gremlin vs Kihara vs Knights vs Nuns vs Cyborgs vs Grimoires vs FiveOver vs Valkyries vs Magic God vs Cabal Boss vs Artificial Angels vs Aliens vs Kamijou Touma (?!).
TAMnI, Royal Rumble. Hoo baby.

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Hmmm...can't help but think someone's being left out
Oh well, carry on
Eh...who is it again? Hime...ji?
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Old 2012-11-07, 09:23   Link #21300
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TAMnI, Royal Rumble. Hoo baby.
The revised version removes the grunts.


Level 5s / Kihara / Cyborg / FiveOver / HS Mecha / Artificial Angel / Aliens

Grimlin / Saints / Grimoires / Valkyries / Magic God / Cabal Boss / Artifacts


Kamijou Touma - ?!
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