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Old 2013-01-12, 21:30   Link #22561
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is it me or there is something happened in the background with touma and misaki that we dont know about seing that the time that misaki brainwash the people just to chase mikoto to help touma out of there...
Touma at least knew about her before he lost his memories in Volume 1 but it is unknown whether he personally knew her or that he just heard stories of her.
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:33   Link #22562
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What does Othnius plan to do with Dark Matter?
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:33   Link #22563
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I doubt she did it for Touma, but it does beg the question what she was doing there.
Because of Mental Railgun Breaker forming during Daihaseisai?
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:33   Link #22564
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Ollerus in disguise suggest her to use Dark Matter to make Holistic Esper.
Since Fraulin is now useless as she has lost her "function".
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:34   Link #22565
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is it me or there is something happened in the background with touma and misaki that we dont know about seing that the time that misaki brainwash the people just to chase mikoto to help touma out of there...
it was simple

Misaki Shokuhou was his osananajimi and one way of another promised to herself to protect touma from blind side....LOL
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:37   Link #22566
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Because of Mental Railgun Breaker forming during Daihaseisai?
Very subtle there Sumeragi...

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Ollerus in disguise suggest her to use Dark Matter to make Holistic Esper.
Since Fraulin is now useless as she has lost her "function".
Wasn't the whole point of needing Fraulin because she is neither of science nor magic?
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:40   Link #22567
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Did Ollerus give Othnius real Dark Matter since if it can be used as a substitute then why risk it and give it her, IMO just destroy it and stop the creation of the holistic esper altogether.
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:41   Link #22568
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We don't know is those Dark Matter real or not. Or what Ollerus really wants to do with those Dark Matter.
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:41   Link #22569
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It's actually related to making the Gungnir. Furthermore, it's Ollerus who suggested that the Dark Matter organ be used to recreate the Spear of the All-Father.
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:43   Link #22570
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We don't know is those Dark Matter real or not. Or what Ollerus really wants to do with those Dark Matter.

Which still doesn't add up because Othinus herself said that she needs a specimen not touched by science or magic... unless there is something I'm missing here...?
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:44   Link #22571
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Was the Dark Matter from Kakine or the beetles or both
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:45   Link #22572
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It's actually related to making the Gungnir. Furthermore, it's Ollerus who suggested that the Dark Matter organ be used to recreate the Spear of the All-Father.
So dark matter is used for the spear and not the holistic esper? Okay I guess...
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:48   Link #22573
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It is more about Othinus has not other choice.
Fraulin is now useless whether she likes it or not. She has to go for what appears to be the second best.
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:50   Link #22574
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The holistic esper would be used to cause a distortion in the world right? why would it be impossible to build it without that, even if the dark matter can be used to make the spear, it would not be imperfect?
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:52   Link #22575
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What happened in the illustration where it looks like Kakine was blown away by Mugino's Meltdowner. Did he regenerated or what?
Also was that illustration of Kakine with normal eyes beetle No.5
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Old 2013-01-12, 21:59   Link #22576
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It is more about Othinus has not other choice.
Fraulin is now useless whether she likes it or not. She has to go for what appears to be the second best.
Is she still pursuing the holistic route?

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The holistic esper would be used to cause a distortion in the world right? why would it be impossible to build it without that, even if the dark matter can be used to make the spear, it would not be imperfect?
No, the point of the holistic esper is to change the laws surrounding her 50:50 problem.
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Old 2013-01-12, 22:03   Link #22577
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thanks for clarifying!
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Old 2013-01-12, 22:05   Link #22578
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In the Railgun manga Touma and Misaki met during Daihaseisai. Though they didn't in the LN, since Kamachi writes the manga, it should be considered canon?
Probably to troll Misaka.
I think he means something behind scenes after Daihaisesai but before WIII. There is a lot of room.
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Old 2013-01-12, 22:11   Link #22579
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Is she still pursuing the holistic route?



No, the point of the holistic esper is to change the laws surrounding her 50:50 problem.
Technically, she needs Holistic Esper to complete the Gungir.
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Old 2013-01-12, 22:11   Link #22580
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Wow!Finally read(almost) everything you all wrote during this time I wasn't visiting the site. Can someone explain better the beetle?
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