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Old 2010-06-04, 05:13   Link #3221
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The point is compare to Seiri, I just can't call her a member of his harem yet.
Neither can I, just hopeful speculation from me.

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It's quite even really.
And that was internet slang to reference Sureman's post of his guess on their breast sizes, as the magic side seems to have a higher average in size...or more like the science side is below average?

Other people often included in his harem list though are Ursula, Anieze, and Lessar, all magic side. Personally, I think they just feel a sort of gratitude for saving them and won't even really go anywhere. Lessar's acts are amusing, though.

Though Touma does fight more people from the magic side contrast to the science side (more chances for magic side 'flags', I suppose). Espers are surprisingly tame to Touma, especially considering his encounter rate with hostile magicians. Really, his harem-size is debatable, as 1. do the before-mentioned magic side girls clearly state their position like Seiri? and 2. Touma's only really met one MISAKA; maybe they ALL like him, being a hivemind and all.

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Old 2010-06-04, 06:25   Link #3222
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Interesting. So she also resorts to psychological warfare, Impressive.

And I guess this also means that Accelerator will still have doubts on what the clones truly feel about him even after his encounter with Touma, unless he confirms this with Last Order himself.
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Old 2010-06-04, 07:45   Link #3223
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The remaining 9968, yes. He does need to confirm since he never had the chance to redeem himself to them. But for the MISAKA WORST, I think he's smart enough to distinguish them from the Nine-Nine-Six-Eight. But right now, he's broken "beyond repair", and those Black Wings is proof enough that it's not the good time for anyone to talk to him, except for Touma.
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Old 2010-06-04, 08:37   Link #3224
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Damn!!! Those bastards scientists and that heartless bastard of Aleister makes me RAGE!!! I feel pity for Accelerator and the Sisters again.
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Old 2010-06-04, 09:47   Link #3225
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That's definitely different from the previous spoilers we had. Before, it was said that Accelerator snapped when Misaka Worst committed suicide after he tried to reprogram her.
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Old 2010-06-04, 09:51   Link #3226
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To be fair, a couple volumes later and she wants to kill Touma again.

Not to mention the magic side girls seem to be 'healthier' compared to the science side girls. I wouldn't mind Seiri having a thing for Touma, as she's probably the easiest to talk to among his harem-ees, even not attacking him for seeing her naked (actually listening to an excuse afterwards from a protagonist is rare).
Because foreign girls apparently are "healthier". See vol 10 with Oriana and Misuzu's comment about foreign girls.
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Old 2010-06-04, 10:28   Link #3227
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Because foreign girls apparently are "healthier". See vol 10 with Oriana and Misuzu's comment about foreign girls.
Dou you mean Misuzu's comments about her daughter lack of growth?
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Old 2010-06-04, 13:59   Link #3228
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Because foreign girls apparently are "healthier". See vol 10 with Oriana and Misuzu's comment about foreign girls.
It's a somewhat popular belief in a lot of Japanese media, and besides, Kaori and Itsuwa aren't foreigners.


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That's definitely different from the previous spoilers we had. Before, it was said that Accelerator snapped when Misaka Worst committed suicide after he tried to reprogram her.
Things can still add up. He went mad with power, wanting to protect everything during the fight, and we can assume after the section translated she kills herself, causing Accelerator to lose faith in being able to protect anything, causing him to go berserk. Accelerator's pretty unstable.

Seems like the Misaka-imoutos and Worsts aren't going to get along well. Hope they don't fight, I like the imoutos.
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Old 2010-06-04, 14:13   Link #3229
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Misaka Worst are the "3rd production plan"
Misaka Radio Noise Sisters are the ""2nd production plan"
Which is the first?????
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Old 2010-06-04, 14:29   Link #3230
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Thanks for the post Bordix! this really clears some things up The Observer is good xD
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Misaka Worst are the "3rd production plan"
Misaka Radio Noise Sisters are the ""2nd production plan"
Which is the first?????
1st production might have included the prototypes and/or Full Tunning (all my speculation though )
OR...
1st were Sisters Project: mass produced military grade clones
2nd was Radio Noise + Last Order: setup of the network
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3rd Production: WORST

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Things can still add up. He went mad with power, wanting to protect everything during the fight, and we can assume after the section translated she kills herself, causing Accelerator to lose faith in being able to protect anything, causing him to go berserk. Accelerator's pretty unstable.

Seems like the Misaka-imoutos and Worsts aren't going to get along well. Hope they don't fight, I like the imoutos.
Guess i'll have to wait to be sure then
But, why won't the imouto's get along with (if any remaining) WORST(s)?
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Guess i'll have to wait to be sure then
But, why won't the imouto's get along with (if any remaining) WORST(s)?
the reason is simple...while Imouto's (under Last order command) protect duo lolicon with Hax power (Accelerator & Touma), Misaka Worst try to eliminate one of the duo lolicon possession (Last Order).
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Old 2010-06-04, 18:11   Link #3232
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The new network isn't full stablished yet, since L.O. is in a bad state because of Aiwass's manifestation in this world. So replacing her by a better administer(my guess is a Level 5 sister.... Full Tuning anyone?) will make a more stable network.
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Unfortunately, we are not certain who is the "Overmind" that Misaka WORST is talking about. But it's most definitely Full-Tuning by the looks of it, since for a character whose presence is known since the starting volumes, she's still a complete mystery.
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Old 2010-06-04, 20:58   Link #3234
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The new network isn't full stablished yet, since L.O. is in a bad state because of Aiwass's manifestation in this world. So replacing her by a better administer(my guess is a Level 5 sister.... Full Tuning anyone?) will make a more stable network.
Not just that, but Last Order is a little hard to control since she has emotions and is fully autonomous thanks to Accelerator (and Touma). That doesn't sit well with Aleister, since you know how much of a control freak he is.
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Old 2010-06-04, 21:17   Link #3235
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It's been nagging at me for awhile now but what the hell is accelerator doing in Russia? He was told by Aiwass that Index could help Last Order, but Index isn't in Russia so why did Aiwass sent him there? In the first place, how does index who knows nothing about science, help last order? This just doesn't seem right to me, unless Aiwass was yanking his chain and only interested in accelerator's 'growth'...
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It's been nagging at me for awhile now but what the hell is accelerator doing in Russia? He was told by Aiwass that Index could help Last Order, but Index isn't in Russia so why did Aiwass sent him there?
Do you think that it was a coincidence Accelerator put his hands on the Kremlin report and then met with Touma just when he was passing on his way?

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In the first place, how does index who knows nothing about science, help last order? This just doesn't seem right to me, unless Aiwass was yanking his chain and only interested in accelerator's 'growth'...
Index got info about the AIM structure in the vol.13 from Misaka Mikoto, then noticed that the principle behind the virus control wasn't so different from the magic remote control, so she managed to break it throught chanting Spell Intercept.

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Old 2010-06-04, 23:33   Link #3237
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Do you think that it was a coincidence Accelerator put his hands on the Kremlin report and then met with Touma just when he was passing on his way?


Index got info about the AIM structure in the vol.13 from Misaka Mikoto, then noticed that the principle behind the virus control wasn't so different from the magic remote control, so she managed to break it throught chanting Spell Intercept.

EDIT:

Spoiler for Finally Touma vs Accelerator!!!:
... Looks like Touma just took another level in badass. Just when I thought he can't get anymore badass... well, not without martial arts anyway...

... Oh great, there goes my mind again, being delusional about a Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken) look-alike Touma.
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Old 2010-06-04, 23:46   Link #3238
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@ Wilfriback
but doesn't that just break the control over fuse=kazakiri? How would that help Last Order now?

In any case, thousand thanks for the translation on Touma vs Accelerator II, I was interested to see that the topic of Touma blocking railguns and lightning strikes that are faster than what normal humans are capable of, Imagine Breaker seem to be able to negate the impact produce as a result from those esper abilities, but more importantly is how Touma can survive attacks and shockwaves that could kill a human... Very intriguing... There might be more to this than sheer willpower.
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Old 2010-06-05, 02:04   Link #3239
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oh great.... is it just me or touma is turning more into monster without realizing it?

Even Accelerator which been labeled as monster is terrified at the opponent in front of him.

I wonder what would happen if touma starts learning the way to fight like a martial artist.

But isn't learning how to do martial arts will break his initial way of fighting with pure brawl?

I don't know but I think I prefer him now than just doing some crazy kung-fu moves out of no where which doesn't suits him at all.

EDIT:

I just visit OM forums for the first time after my last visit on .... 12-10-2009
then I go to the thread of index but their is no spoilers their.

Where do you get the index novel spoilers? though I did see the observer.
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Old 2010-06-05, 02:17   Link #3240
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Hoooly shit. Touma finally completely shattered Accelerator's "illusion", eh? I hope they can at least get along after this has all ended, assuming both live, but it does look like Accelerator will stop imitating Touma. I wonder if WWIII will have any more insight on Imagine Breaker, or if we'll just get left in the dark on it for a few more volumes.

Though I am curious why The Observer stopped actually translating full chapters.
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