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Old 2011-03-23, 06:41   Link #9141
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W00t, fully translated in Chinese now

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Actually, your previous thought is quite correct. In the Japanese version Bardway said
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That's the gist of it. My English is not that good, so some part might be unclear though XD
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Old 2011-03-23, 06:57   Link #9142
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Isn't the parameter list a list of espers and their maximum reachable levels + power in that level? (note: two espers don't have the same power on the same lv, eg kuroko and awaki)
Wait what? You're saying there's only ever one teleporter at level 4 in the entire city

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http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com...Parameter_List
That means Mikoto can't go above it even if she wants, because in toaru "hard work" not = "higher power", only the curriculum can increase power (*1). If she already reached the max potential stated there, she can't advance. Even if she is a level 5, there is a huge gap between her powers and n1 or n2 powers, and due to the fact that her potential ends where she is now, she can't fill the gap in power.
That's not completely true either, it's not that hardwork is useless, it's that things would be faster with additional help.

In any case, there's a possibility that the Perimeter List is not absolute. Even more so if this was in the Author's afterwords.
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Old 2011-03-23, 07:01   Link #9143
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Don´t tell me Touma is only going to appear in the Epilogue
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It's starting to look that way.
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Touma did only show up in the end or near the end just to save the day.
The usual Touma that shows up to save the day as always. Just like the fight with Aqua but this time its Kumodori? I think not sure on the spelling.

The last ounce of strength mutter by Kumodori was block by Touma. Ended up saving Fremea and Shiage
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If I was writing New Testament, I would wait a few more volumes before bringing Touma back. But I don't like Touma all that much, so...
Without any ill-intents in mind, I'll admit that I've become less patient in waiting NT being translated....

Well yes, I also don't like Touma all that much. He would've been better without his justice-complex and all, since I actually acknowledge him to be a quality harem-leader figure, something that we rarely see today....

And yes, he will appear eventually somewhere near the end to save today, so why not have fun before he does ?
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Old 2011-03-23, 09:03   Link #9144
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Old 2011-03-23, 09:32   Link #9145
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Wait what? You're saying there's only ever one teleporter at level 4 in the entire city



That's not completely true either, it's not that hardwork is useless, it's that things would be faster with additional help.

In any case, there's a possibility that the Perimeter List is not absolute. Even more so if this was in the Author's afterwords.
sry for my english, i meant it as different amount of power. (kuroko can teleport 80m, while awaki around 500m, both lv 4)

quote from bakatsuki vol 22:
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“In other words, before we take our studies at school it was already known? Does that mean no matter how much effort, how much was learned; those who succeed will succeed and those who fail will fail?”

"Even those called a ‘Powerless Person (Level 0)’ or a ‘Low-ability Person (Level 1)’ believes through effort they can increase their own Level. That’s how they can live on. "
That means that they don't have any chance for growing without AC curriculum.

Sometimes i wish there was esper that can convert the spent effort into stronger power. (maybe even decrease it if they was slacking and got stronger only because of AC)
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Old 2011-03-23, 10:30   Link #9146
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That means that they don't have any chance for growing without AC curriculum.

Sometimes i wish there was esper that can convert the spent effort into stronger power. (maybe even decrease it if they was slacking and got stronger only because of AC)
Do you think those higher ups are going to allow to exist that kind of power?



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-Index won't focused on as much in NT as in the previous novels.
... Wait. Was she?


The Son of God can't bear this .
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Old 2011-03-23, 13:49   Link #9147
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She awakens that'll be stupid. What, her sentence would be "she who holds gods tsundere?". Her power us not unique at all.
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Old 2011-03-23, 14:08   Link #9148
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She awakens that'll be stupid. What, her sentence would be "she who holds gods tsundere?". Her power us not unique at all.
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If she awakens, it will become as cheap as a power fest from Bleach. Then, why not Gunha? The guy is so special even Ollerus compares with himself.
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Old 2011-03-23, 14:19   Link #9149
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Quick question. So is touma fighting science,magic,or both?
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Old 2011-03-23, 15:02   Link #9150
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-Index won't focused on as much in NT as in the previous novels.
Ah god dammit, with all this shit about Misaka please don't tell me they are going to be focusing more on her instead of Index. Dammit
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Old 2011-03-23, 15:08   Link #9151
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Now if we could make Touma preach less, kill Itsuwa this series would be epic
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Old 2011-03-23, 15:09   Link #9152
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Now if we could make Touma preach less, kill Itsuwa this series would be epic
How dare you, Xellos! Those are the parts that I love!
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Old 2011-03-23, 16:00   Link #9153
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Now if we could make Touma preach less, kill Itsuwa this series would be epic
I agree with the first part only.
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Old 2011-03-23, 16:19   Link #9154
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Quick question. So is touma fighting science,magic,or both?
Yes ... erm ... I mean....

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I agree with the first part only.
Agreed.

I like Itsuwa.
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Old 2011-03-23, 16:23   Link #9155
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So Mikoto is being held back by the Parameter List? Does that mean she can become stronger and perhaps awaken but is being held back from doing so? And if that's the case, does that mean espers who's powers are not divine in origin (Accel, Kakine) can awaken?
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Old 2011-03-23, 17:19   Link #9156
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So Mikoto is being held back by the Parameter List? Does that mean she can become stronger and perhaps awaken but is being held back from doing so? And if that's the case, does that mean espers who's powers are not divine in origin (Accel, Kakine) can awaken?
Please don't say stuff like her awakening.......
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Old 2011-03-23, 17:21   Link #9157
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So Mikoto is being held back by the Parameter List? Does that mean she can become stronger and perhaps awaken but is being held back from doing so? And if that's the case, does that mean espers who's powers are not divine in origin (Accel, Kakine) can awaken?
My understanding was the only Esper's whose powers were divine in origin could become a Level 6. In other words: Only Accel, Kakine, and Touma.
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Old 2011-03-23, 17:37   Link #9158
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My understanding was the only Esper's whose powers were divine in origin could become a Level 6. In other words: Only Accel, Kakine, and Touma.
I think its more the rare ones than some by divine origins. Scientifically, Accelerators powers are vectors, Kakine is Dark matter, but toumas is compared to the holy right or something.
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Old 2011-03-23, 17:48   Link #9159
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Now if we could make Touma preach less, kill Itsuwa this series would be epic
Why kill? We got Fre/nda and it didn't become epic.
Just because you don't like a character doesn't means you have to bash the character unless you are an hidden/closet worshiper of another character and Itsuwa happens to be on its way. Like Index's haters who happens to Mikoto's worshipers.

Touma preaching less sure, but is like destroying the core of the character. Oh wait, isn't supposed to have died in vol. 22. Maybe he's dead in the preaching sense .

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Please don't say stuff like her awakening.......
Thats just very, veeeery insulting to the guy with a crutch (the one who has the power that equates God) and the guy inside a fridge (the one who holds the piece of Heaven inhabited by God).
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Old 2011-03-23, 17:53   Link #9160
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Touma says he came back because Academy City plans to continue the War against the Magic Side even though it has 'officially' ended. Touma was explaining about Magic to Accel and Shiage, and says he's not going to just let it go even if he's part of AC, then got kicked in the balls by Bardway.
Bardway is saying Touma's preaching is boring her to tears, and he better start thinking about how to apologise to her and let her do the talking.
I find it hilarious that the author KNOWS toumas speeches are boring and puts that in the dialogue.
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