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Old 2011-08-19, 08:09   Link #13461
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If there's anyone that'd awaken, it should be Gunha.
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Old 2011-08-19, 08:15   Link #13462
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If there's anyone that'd awaken, it should be Gunha.
Nah, the truth is Gunha's a Saint....

How else do you explain his sonic speed, inhuman strength, and impenetrable defense?
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Old 2011-08-19, 08:40   Link #13463
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Well, probably he's a Saint. His "esper" powers cannot be comprehended through Science, after all.
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Old 2011-08-19, 10:18   Link #13464
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Well, probably he's a Saint. His "esper" powers cannot be comprehended through Science, after all.
A Saint who distorts AIM and emits AIM?

Eh, no. Not a Saint -- there's just not a clear cut category for him, which is why they put him in Level 5.
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Old 2011-08-19, 10:38   Link #13465
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Obviously, he is a called Gemstone for a reason.
At least Gunha had the honours of getting utterly owned by Ollerus.

BTW, so far only Gungnir was unveiled, I demand to know more (at least some hints) about One Eyed Odinus!!
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Old 2011-08-19, 10:40   Link #13466
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I wonder if Odinus has something to do with GREMLIN.

Majin vs Kamijou.

If so, expect to see Ollerus soon.
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Old 2011-08-19, 11:13   Link #13467
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Maybe Odinus but not Ollerus and Fiamma, the first is too much of a nice guy and the latter is well... the mesiah in the modern era and previously got lectured by Touma making of him a better person.

If Odinus has something to do with GREMLIN I don't think a magic god like him will go to face Touma knowing how much of a treat is his right hand, surely will have his methods to deal with Touma like Acqua did, and I hope to see that, there will be a lot of fun seeing Touma flying above 20 meters in the air .
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Old 2011-08-19, 12:07   Link #13468
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Maybe Odinus but not Ollerus and Fiamma, the first is too much of a nice guy and the latter is well... the mesiah in the modern era and previously got lectured by Touma making of him a better person.

If Odinus has something to do with GREMLIN I don't think a magic god like him will go to face Touma knowing how much of a treat is his right hand, surely will have his methods to deal with Touma like Acqua did, and I hope to see that, there will be a lot of fun seeing Touma flying above 20 meters in the air .
no, it'll be fun seeing Touma come back from that and lay the smack down
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Old 2011-08-19, 12:28   Link #13469
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Does anyone think that drunken Touma might be more powerful than normal Touma? He dodged Misaka's attack and was able to attract just about all of his harem in Academy City into just one spot.

I've come to the conclusion

Kamijou Touma is a master of the drunken fist style
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He believes in his right fist,
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Old 2011-08-19, 12:32   Link #13470
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does anyone think that drunken touma might be more powerful than normal touma? He dodged misaka's attack and was able to attract just about all of his harem in academy city into just one spot.

I've come to the conclusion

kamijou touma is a master of the drunken fist style
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Old 2011-08-19, 13:05   Link #13471
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On the subject of what Touma could have possibly said to Etzali back in Vol5, what Etzali said was: "No matter where, no matter when, no matter who your opponent is, no matter how many times, as long as something like this happens, you’ll have to be a hero and go to her side to protect her. Can you promise me this?"

Personally I think Touma responded "Alright; I will protect her and everything in her world, unitl death do us part."

'Worst possible answer' criteria met by Touma all but saying he's taking the girl Etzali loves for himself, and 'misunderstand' criteria met by him just meaning he wants to protect Mikoto but she thinks it's a confession of sorts.
Except I have no idea how that sentence would come out in Japanese.
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Old 2011-08-19, 14:43   Link #13472
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Kanzaki SS Chapter 1 part 9 is out.
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Old 2011-08-19, 15:07   Link #13473
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A Saint who distorts AIM and emits AIM?

Eh, no. Not a Saint -- there's just not a clear cut category for him, which is why they put him in Level 5.
Magic is a "knowledge that is learned and applied". You can't do magic without learning it first. ESP is different in the sense that are abilities that become "natural" to the individual, and that is refined through the power curriculum program (studies and practice).

Gunha can't be a mage because no one has taught him how to do magic, he "has" the power innate to him. Saints (and apparently Vampires) only have their "special attributes" in their bodies, but magic itself they have to learn it like anyone else (Kanzaki is an example as she stated herself that her magician style was depured by generations by the Amakusas; I'm assuming that vampires are the same because no vampire used magic to try to get to Himegami in their "short time of appearance").

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Except I have no idea how that sentence would come out in Japanese.
What phrases? The ones that are mentioned in the novel? (Etzali's request in v5 and Touma referring that in V8?) or is it something else from the forum assumptions?
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Old 2011-08-19, 23:56   Link #13474
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I was going over the TV Tropes character sheet, and came across a blurb about Fiamma being born with The Holy Right. Was that actually stated anywhere by Kamachi or is it fanon/speculation?
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Old 2011-08-19, 23:57   Link #13475
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I think Fiamma said it in V.16.
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Old 2011-08-20, 00:50   Link #13476
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I think Fiamma said it in V.16.
Nah, I've just checked, it wasn't there.

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I was going over the TV Tropes character sheet, and came across a blurb about Fiamma being born with The Holy Right. Was that actually stated anywhere by Kamachi or is it fanon/speculation?
I think because it was implied countless times that Imagine Breaker and the Holy Right are the same type.

If you want to start talking specifics, be my guest
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Old 2011-08-20, 00:56   Link #13477
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I think because it was implied countless times that Imagine Breaker and the Holy Right are the same type.
I always thought The Holy Right was like the other powers possessed by God's Right Seat: Gained when Fiamma purified his Original Sin enough to attain a state similar to an Archangel. Was I wrong?
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Old 2011-08-20, 00:58   Link #13478
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Fiamma is aligned to Michael but, aside that, he holds the same power as the Son of God and due to his nature based on the right hand he can do any action related to it.

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Fiamma of the Right had held the power to save the world as if it were normal ever since he had been born, so to him, that knowledge was on the same level as the knowledge that humans walked on two feet.
I guess that is enough, right?
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Old 2011-08-20, 01:00   Link #13479
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I guess that is enough, right?
Yeah, that's enough.

What volume is that from, so I can source it on the character sheet?
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Old 2011-08-20, 01:02   Link #13480
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Yeah, that's enough.

What volume is that from, so I can source it on the character sheet?
NT2, Chapter 3. Its also been implied the previous volume but I'm just lazy to search for them.
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