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Old 2012-03-21, 22:18   Link #17481
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I would say that 50:50 only applies to what Odin does and not what others do to her.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:19   Link #17482
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Touma's bad luck plays against him so it won't work.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:20   Link #17483
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Lol Kamachi, we get it, they fucked each other. Poor Marian
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:21   Link #17484
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But the Kami-yan disease is pretty powerful so you never know... It's Kamachi senseis call either way.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:21   Link #17485
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what a holistic esper again can someone explain in layman's terms? is it just like AC espers or what?
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:21   Link #17486
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Oh shit. Kagun is now a Einherjar. Poor Marian.
Have you gotten your wish, Kyon?

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Now, I shall continue working on my "Othinus gets Kami-yan disease" short story.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:23   Link #17487
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Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:25   Link #17488
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Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?
Touma's misfortune will undoubtedly always roll against him, so Othinus will never recover.

And that's how it should be. ^
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:25   Link #17489
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All right, I think I should explain the 50% thing: Othinus has a 50% of succeeding in using her power. What that power is hasn't been fully explained yet, but whatever it is, it most likely doesn't interfere with her making Einherjars and such.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:28   Link #17490
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Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?
The Kami-yan disease goes beyond what we know of the countable realm, having luck or the gift of chance do nothing.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:33   Link #17491
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Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:34   Link #17492
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Oh Brunhild you really have a mother complex. Good thing Silvia came in to help.


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Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....
Go read the latest translations...
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:35   Link #17493
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Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....
Yeah it's on the update and nah she's already playing Chifuyu to that little boy
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:37   Link #17494
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Sucks to be artificial valkyries on this story .
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:37   Link #17495
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I hope Imagine Breaker can somehow revert whatever Othinus did to Kagun and leave him alive as well, somehow. Touma, Fiamma, Ollerus, I know I'm being really demanding but please give Marian and Kagun a happy end. Touma, you do this and I'll never complain about you being a terribad character and a storytelling abomination.

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what a holistic esper again can someone explain in layman's terms? is it just like AC espers or what?
I'll try:

AC espers is Quantum Theory (infinitely small AKA micro-scale) and Holistic espers is Relativity (infinitely big AKA macro-scale).

For example, the reason a Black Hole is such an incomprehensible thing is that it starts out by being macro-scale AKA fits with Relativity but then warps and then goes into micro-scale AKA Quantum. Only with theories like String or Super String can you start to unite the two

The big difference for a Holistic esper is that to produce effects similar to a Academy City Level 2-3, he literally moves forces of the Universe to light up a flame in his palm, while AC espers operate of micro-scale Quantum perception or blablabla.

Honestly Kamachi has always been taking things very loosely with Science so don't read too much into it. Not to mention, poor Ping and Js06 have to translate deep science-y and philosophical thoughts from Japanese to English, and even English writing on such matters loses about 90% of people already.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:38   Link #17496
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Oh failed to notice that. Sorry. So it's kinda like Ane Doki w/ those too huh? Hmmm. And man my braincells just aren't cut out for this science thing. Hearing the theory of Relativity alone is enough to make my head spin. But I love reading TAMNI anyway. W/c means reading each volume of it is an exercise of masochism in itself... Hmmm...
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:43   Link #17497
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I hope Imagine Breaker can somehow revert whatever Othinus did to Kagun and leave him alive as well, somehow. Touma, Fiamma, Ollerus, I know I'm being really demanding but please give Marian and Kagun a happy end. Touma, you do this and I'll never complain about you being a terribad character and a storytelling abomination.
I think he would punch you in the face or lecture you to death and then will do that just because is the right thing to do, of course, the chances of him turning from Ein to dead are 50:50 .


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AC espers is Quantum Theory (infinitely small AKA micro-scale) and Holistic espers is Relativity (infinitely big AKA macro-scale).

For example, the reason a Black Hole is such an incomprehensible thing is that it starts out by being macro-scale AKA fits with Relativity but then warps and then goes into micro-scale AKA Quantum. Only with theories like String or Super String can you start to unite the two

The big difference for a Holistic esper is that to produce effects similar to a Academy City Level 2-3, he literally moves forces of the Universe to light up a flame in his palm, while AC espers operate of micro-scale Quantum perception or blablabla.

Honestly Kamachi has always been taking things very loosely with Science so don't read too much into it. Not to mention, poor Ping and Js06 have to translate deep science-y and philosophical thoughts from Japanese to English, and even English writing on such matters loses about 90% of people already.
The question is... Do the holistic espers are similar to gemstones? Afterall gemstones are a product of the macro-scale.

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Old 2012-03-21, 22:45   Link #17498
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So once again the "phenomenon" reconnected Touma's arm. I wonder if the reconnection process take longer depending on the damage to the host, considering it took about 20 or so minutes for the arm to grow or reattach itself.
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:47   Link #17499
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But the entire purpose of the experiment in creating a holistic esper is to attain a power unknown to both science and magic and use it as a trump card of sorts. So does that mean they are actually trying to produce gemstones "artificially"?
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Old 2012-03-21, 22:48   Link #17500
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All right, I think I should explain the 50% thing: Othinus has a 50% of succeeding in using her power. What that power is hasn't been fully explained yet, but whatever it is, it most likely doesn't interfere with her making Einherjars and such.
I think it actually does. But there is no consequences in making an Einherjar, so she just need to try a few time until it works.
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