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Old 2012-05-16, 03:58   Link #18401
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It's kinda pointless to argument about this so late into the game right?

Whether the experiment succeed or not, it would still be in Crowley's favor. If it didn't work, he could continue with the Artificial Heaven's project, even if it meant blowing through 20000 clones, heck nobody said they could only make 20000 of them.

If it did work, then he got himself a Level 6. Win-Win.

Remember that Crowley rarely bet on one horse, what was it that Kakine had said?

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“That bastard Aleister has many plans in place at the same time. Even if the most promising plan for him once he found it doesn’t work he’ll immediately switch to another plan. Then when the time is right, he’ll go back to the original plan. Just like a spider web, no matter which path you choose sooner or later you will end up back on the same path.”
It just so happens that this one turns out this way that he could use to one advantage.
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Old 2012-05-16, 04:02   Link #18402
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Yeah, I'm somehow getting the feeling that this conversation has already been made a long time ago by some other person.

But well, the more you know, aye?
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Old 2012-05-16, 04:05   Link #18403
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My view on this is how it went down, wasn't at all planned.

But how it turned out- whichever way it turned out, was all according to plan.
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Old 2012-05-16, 07:27   Link #18404
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I think the author is trying to show how extremely calculating Aleister is with his plans and actions (maybe to the point where it may look like he's predicting the future, but I haven't read that deeply to confirm anything).
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Old 2012-05-16, 08:47   Link #18405
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I think the fact that the experiment needed exactly 20000 clones to succeed is a sign that it's fake. What are the odds that it would be such an exact number if it was real?
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Old 2012-05-16, 09:06   Link #18406
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In the end, we can't really prove or disprove anything.

At best it's a gut feeling backed-up by what ifs and maybes.
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Old 2012-05-16, 10:43   Link #18407
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I think the fact that the experiment needed exactly 20000 clones to succeed is a sign that it's fake. What are the odds that it would be such an exact number if it was real?
The exact number is counted Tree Diagrams ... This information can be trusted? I think so
What do you think, how old was Accelerator when he was asked to kill Sister?
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Old 2012-05-16, 11:09   Link #18408
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The exact number is counted Tree Diagrams ... This information can be trusted? I think so
What do you think, how old was Accelerator when he was asked to kill Sister?
Aliester could easy have gotten the Tree Diagram to give wrong information. In fact I think he would do it like that to make the scientists believe the experiment without thinking
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Old 2012-05-16, 11:25   Link #18409
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Aliester could easy have gotten the Tree Diagram to give wrong information. In fact I think he would do it like that to make the scientists believe the experiment without thinking
It really could be ... It might. Alister such a badass...
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Old 2012-05-16, 12:44   Link #18410
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What do you think, how old was Accelerator when he was asked to kill Sister?
Since it looks like present Accelerator is about Touman's age, I'd say he started maybe first year middle school so ~12. They did say after a certain point he fought multiple Misaka's, so my guess is 10000 clones in 3~4 years, resulting in 7~9 kills each day on average. I guess that is enough to crank up anyone.
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Old 2012-05-16, 13:00   Link #18411
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or it could be that Accelerator really would level up after 20000 clones, and aleister is just waiting to disrupt it so he could distribute the clones instead.

if you compute it via the timeline, he killed 8.3 misakas per day during the outside experiments.

i imagine the inside experiments took a lot faster, since they just had to bring in the clones, not to mention they had less experience. also, iirc, the earlier clones were just level 2, and they leveled up sometime during the experiment.

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http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...79#post4163179
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Old 2012-05-16, 14:47   Link #18412
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Since it looks like present Accelerator is about Touman's age, I'd say he started maybe first year middle school so ~12. They did say after a certain point he fought multiple Misaka's, so my guess is 10000 clones in 3~4 years, resulting in 7~9 kills each day on average. I guess that is enough to crank up anyone.
Hmm... My mind was this: in 13 years old. Given the fact that at the time of his fight with Toma, he was 15 years old.
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Old 2012-05-16, 14:58   Link #18413
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Given the fact that at the time of his fight with Toma, he was 15 years old.
Wait what? He was thinking he was OLDER than Touma, not younger.
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Old 2012-05-16, 16:24   Link #18414
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Heh, that Excerpt honestly made me laugh- anymore and someone would really have to make a Light Novel thread for ZW .

One thing though, since when does the size of one's breasts counts as part of their personality -_- ?
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Old 2012-05-16, 19:58   Link #18415
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Wait what? He was thinking he was OLDER than Touma, not younger.
Wait he did? When? I always thought Touma was older. It would be nice if we could get official birthdays of the characters.
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Old 2012-05-16, 20:52   Link #18416
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I thought that they were the same age? They look like it though.
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Old 2012-05-17, 00:55   Link #18417
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since when does the size of one's breasts counts as part of their personality -_- ?
Since Manyuu Hikenchou >_> ...

I'm disappointed the Shinobu guy's not a lolicon, however it's good to see he's apparently smart ... hmm, I think I'm really interested about where this one's heading, especially with that full load of big breasts and pettanko
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Old 2012-05-17, 02:07   Link #18418
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Since Manyuu Hikenchou >_> ...

I'm disappointed the Shinobu guy's not a lolicon, however it's good to see he's apparently smart ... hmm, I think I'm really interested about where this one's heading, especially with that full load of big breasts and pettanko
It's perfectly fine, big breasts and loli both bring happiness to the world so neither should be discounted.
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Old 2012-05-17, 03:35   Link #18419
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It's perfectly fine, big breasts and loli both bring happiness to the world so neither should be discounted.
Amen to that. As long as a girl is cute it doesn't matter if they're big or flat chested right?
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Old 2012-05-17, 04:14   Link #18420
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Wait he did? When? I always thought Touma was older. It would be nice if we could get official birthdays of the characters.
I only remember the moment when he called Tom in the anime "greenhorn".

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Wait what? He was thinking he was OLDER than Touma, not younger.
Accelerator and Touma are the same size, both high school students seem ... I think it was an allusion to the fact that they are the same age. In any case, either at the time of the battle one was 15 and the other was 16. ?
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