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Old 2012-07-02, 01:47   Link #18801
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B-But if he stays a Villain, how would he get a chance to raise Uiharu's flag ala Gajeel and Levy ? :trollface:
Oh god I'm imagining the goodness now
Kakine is fighting chickens and gets hurt trying to protect Uiharu
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Old 2012-07-02, 04:20   Link #18802
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I was about to say the same.

Also, remember there is no absolute on Index so I guess Kakine got twisted at some point om his life.
Spoiler for Kakine's words:


Those bits in bold have always bothered me.

Its kind of like he's saying "How dare you do try and do something I failed at!"
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:46   Link #18803
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^Yes I noticed those too. I think Kakine is the same to Accelerator as Aurelous(not sure if I'm spelling his name right) is to Touma. They show what the character would be like if they had failed saving their important person, Index for Touma and Last Order for Accelerator.

Also Kakine wanted to negotiate wih Aliester, and people in the dark side sometimes have hostages being held against them to make them do stuff.
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:51   Link #18804
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-manly words-
(TwT) oh, you'll make me cry, so he might Accel's rival in more ways than we thought

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I know people don't care -beep-, but Kakine did spare -beep- Takitsubou...>.>
Yeah, he's such a gentleman, all (non-reformed) villains should be like him.
Do you see now you guys, he's such a nice person already. He doesn't need to be reformed at all.

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B-But if he stays a Villain, how would he get a chance to raise Uiharu's flag ala Gajeel and Levy ? :trollface:
*cough* ... you really like to attack where it hurts ... huh ...
How about doing it ŕ la Bando and Mayu? (I'm talking about the manga version which is far more touching)
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:57   Link #18805
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(TwT) oh, you'll make me cry, so he might Accel's rival in more ways than we thought
Given Kamachi's tendency to get all poetic on us...

Kakine might have intended to be what Accelerator would have been if he had failed to save Last Order- just like how Aureolus is supposedly what Kamijou would have become if he had failed to save Index.

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*cough* ... you really like to attack where it hurts ... huh ...
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How about doing it ŕ la Bando and Mayu? (I'm talking about the manga version which is far more touching)
Never heard of it.

And there's a suspicious amount of words that I don't recall typing in that quote -_-
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:51   Link #18806
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^I think he meant elfen lied though not sure.
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Old 2012-07-02, 10:07   Link #18807
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Given Kamachi's tendency to get all poetic on us...

Kakine might have intended to be what Accelerator would have been if he had failed to save Last Order- just like how Aureolus is supposedly what Kamijou would have become if he had failed to save Index.
If we follow the logic, then there's a guy somewhere who lost his ... girlfriend?


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*Clueless*

Hmm? what? You didn't know I was one of the desperate Kakine harem supporter and yet you still aimed for that weak spot?


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Never heard of it.

And there's a suspicious amount of words that I don't recall typing in that quote -_-
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^I think he meant elfen lied though not sure.
Yeah, it's that. He's a "violent" guy who's constantly aiming for the head of one of the MC, yet, at the same time he really cares for a character of the same side as the said MC (and he's actually aware of it). As you might have already deduced, he ended up getting "BADLY hurt" while trying to protect her. Well, it's exactly the type of anti-hero Kenju described, but instead of chickens he'll have face the Big Bad of the series.

oh dammit I messed up with my post above >_>
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Old 2012-07-02, 19:59   Link #18808
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...Right... Okay... But the reason why I used Gajeel and Levy from Fairy Tails is because... Hmmm... I can't reveal spoilers here, so lets just say they started out something like Kakine and Uiharu lol If those two that you've mentioned have that kind of 'history' as well then nvm lol.


Oh in addition, Gajeel and Levy bugged alot of people because of that 'history' so I'm aimming for the same thing with Kakine and Uiharu heh.
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Old 2012-07-02, 21:42   Link #18809
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Damn it you guys, so you mean that because all of them are evil because they were twisted at some point in their lives, if I threw Medaka into Toaruverse she's just Forte #1 all of them into peace?!
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:29   Link #18810
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Not that he'd be allowed to use that. Aleister probably prefers him to just be his personal Dark Matter machine instead of getting his humanity back.
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:32   Link #18811
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Not that he'd be allowed to use that. Aleister probably prefers him to just be his personal Dark Matter machine instead of getting his humanity back.
Which means if/when Kakine breaks out of his fridge prison and start kicking a$$ it'll be that much more awesome than a simple rebirth as a pawn I'm getting Prototype vibes?
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:38   Link #18812
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take note that you can't call Kakine's brain Kakine.
Depends on whether said brain still retain's Kakine's consciousness or not
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:43   Link #18813
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That can only be applied to the students or the one raised by the dark side because in kamachi's verse their is no inborn evil in everyone. Like how a bible describes the human race >_> people get twisted at some point.

Though the scientist are probably beyond help.
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:45   Link #18814
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Not that he'd be allowed to use that. Aleister probably prefers him to just be his personal Dark Matter machine instead of getting his humanity back.
Then it's kinda pointless to have that whole plain-as-day foreshadowing line at the end of NT4 doesn't it ?

I bet if Kamachi was writing that instead of typing on a computer, he would have used a whiteboard marker to write that line- as a sort of *hint hint* Get it?* with that big chessy grin while wearing a monocle.

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Which means if/when Kakine breaks out of his fridge prison and start kicking a$$ it'll be that much more awesome than a simple rebirth as a pawn I'm getting Prototype vibes?
Until he starts consuming people and gaining their powers...
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:57   Link #18815
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C'mon, this is the realm of fiction so there is a high chance Kakine's brain still has his will (if not his consciousness)
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Old 2012-07-03, 08:54   Link #18816
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Well his abilities and uses still holds relevance to the plot despite being contained in some fridge in a lab somewhere.
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Old 2012-07-03, 10:15   Link #18817
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Then it's kinda pointless to have that whole plain-as-day foreshadowing line at the end of NT4 doesn't it ?
But I don't think they really need to release him for that. After all, with such a broken power as dark matter, one can easily mass-produce his brain ... and the bodies that will be operated by them, without necessarily freeing the "original" => mass-produced super fridge clones
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Old 2012-07-03, 10:23   Link #18818
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Wait a minute, Worst is a Misaka clone with Mugino mindset and Accelerator influence. Add the Dark Matter body...
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Old 2012-07-03, 11:07   Link #18819
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Wait a minute, Worst is a Misaka clone with Mugino mindset and Accelerator influence. Add the Dark Matter body...
Worst doesn't has Mugino's mindset.
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Old 2012-07-03, 11:42   Link #18820
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Worst just shares some of Mugino's looks. They do look pretty similiar. However, Worst is supposed to be the negative side of the Misaka network or something. I wouldn't say she's using anyones mindset because she is somewhat unique.

Still, isn't Worst supposed to just be a Mikoto at the age of Touma? What kind of growth spurt is that? That's a big difference in just a few years of "age" difference.
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