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View Poll Results: Who are your favorite characters?
Alto Saotome 202 36.59%
Sheryl Nome 388 70.29%
Ranka Lee 159 28.80%
Brera Sterne 75 13.59%
Ozma Lee 127 23.01%
Cathy Glass 62 11.23%
Klan Klan 203 36.78%
Mikhail Blanc (aka Michel) 156 28.26%
Luca Angeloni 24 4.35%
Nanase Matsuura 23 4.17%
Canaria Berstein 18 3.26%
Leon Mishima 13 2.36%
Howard Glass 6 1.09%
Grace O'Connor 41 7.43%
Bobby Margot 61 11.05%
Nene Rora 14 2.54%
Raramia Rerenia 13 2.36%
Jeffrey Wilder 18 3.26%
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Old 2009-05-25, 03:10   Link #961
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Anyone using Ranka's and Sheryl's looks to explain their popularity are just kidding themselves and being flat out ignorant. I'm sorry but many loli characters have been popular before and will continue to be. Last year you had Taiga from Toradora and Nagi from Kannagi, this year Yui from K-ON!, past popular loliish girls have been Shana, Nagi from Hayate, Louise, Nanoha, Fate.. god the list goes on. Looks are a factor (especially in initial impressions) but personality and actions means more. When I see countless Sheryl fans raving about Taiga and/or Nagi-sama it just makes this argument even more hilarious.

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Actually no, if you had been paying attention to fandom throughout the course of this series, you would notice that most people actually disliked Sheryl at the beginning of the series. It was hard to find someone who had something positive to say about her character. Meanwhile Ranka had the most support, looks had nothing to do with that. Looking back on some posts with people commenting about Macross Frontier, people didn't start liking Sheryl until episode 18
As one of the few day 1 fans (puffs out chest) I have to agree to some extent with the stuff you said here. Ranka was clearly the more popular character at the start of Macross Frontier, in Japan and on English forums. The amount of bitching about Sheryl's character in the first episodes was just /facepalm. You had people whining about how she left her concert, even though she was ordered to by Frontier security (like they would let a famous idol from another colony run around and do something, quick ticket to getting fired ) yet these same people ignored how Alto's reckless and pointless actions after wards got Ozma's right hand man Gilliam killed.

Anyway to get back on topic Sheryl was considered a stuff up conceited bitch by a lot of people and got a lot of undeserved flak. I saw a girl on ANN say she didn't like Sheryl because she reminded her of bitches from school.. needless to say she became a massive fan of Sheryl later on. The shift in popularity happened with episode 5 which probably put Sheryl ahead of Ranka in regards to fans for the first time on English forums. But at the time Ranka still had a lot of fans even though I thought to myself (or maybe I said so in the ep 5 thread, cbf looking) this immature display is surely an indicator of things to come. If you look at RandomC's blog post for episode 5 you'll see a hilarious amount of posts calling Sheryl a backstabbing bitch and Alto a betrayer to Ranka. Clearly us normal viewers missed episode 3.5 where Alto and Ranka got married

From that point on Sheryl was on her way up and Ranka was going down, though episode 12 gave Ranka some momentum back I think she quickly squandered it by her actions afterwards. Sheryl's key popularity points were episode 5, her sickness around 12 (saw a lot of people feel sorry for in between the ZOMG KIRA posts) and episode 18-20.

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Old 2009-05-25, 03:29   Link #962
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Anyone using Ranka's and Sheryl's looks to explain their popularity are just kidding themselves and being flat out ignorant. I'm sorry but many loli characters have been popular before and will continue to be. Last year you had Taiga from Toradora and Nagi from Kannagi, this year Yui from K-ON!, past popular loliish girls have been Shana, Nagi from Hayate, Louise, Nanoha, Fate.. god the list goes on. Looks are a factor (especially in initial impressions) but personality and actions means more. When I see countless Sheryl fans raving about Taiga and/or Nagi-sama it just makes this argument even more hilarious.
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As one of the few day 1 fans (puffs out chest) I have to agree to some extent with the stuff you said here. Ranka was clearly the more popular character at the start of Macross Frontier, in Japan and on English forums. The amount of bitching about Sheryl's character in the first episodes was just /facepalm. You had people whining about how she left her concert, even though she was ordered to by Frontier security (like they would let a famous idol from another colony run around and do something, quick ticket to getting fired ) yet these same people ignored how Alto's reckless and pointless actions after wards got Ozma's right hand man Gilliam killed.

Anyway to get back on topic Sheryl was considered a stuff up conceited bitch by a lot of people and got a lot of undeserved flak. I saw a girl on ANN say she didn't like Sheryl because she reminded her of bitches from school.. needless to say she became a massive fan of Sheryl later on. The shift in popularity happened with episode 5 which probably put Sheryl ahead of Ranka in regards to fans for the first time on English forums. But at the time Ranka still had a lot of fans even though I thought to myself (or maybe I said so in the ep 5 thread, cbf looking) this immature display is surely an indicator of things to come. If you look at RandomC's blog post for episode 5 you'll see a hilarious amount of posts calling Sheryl a backstabbing bitch and Alto a betrayer to Ranka. Clearly us normal viewers missed episode 3.5 where Alto and Ranka got married

From that point on Sheryl was on her up and Ranka was going down though episode 12 gave Ranka some momentum back I think she quickly squandered it by her actions afterwards. Sheryl's key popularity points were episode 5, her sickness around 12 (saw a lot of people feel sorry for in between the ZOMG KIRA posts) and episode 18-20.
Good to know that Westlo and I got the same recollections of what happened.
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Old 2009-05-25, 05:25   Link #963
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Well, I was one Sheryl hater. Look at me now.
You won't see my progress here, as I probably only started posting around episode 17 or 18, because I had honestly dropped the series and recently started watching it again, marathoning it up to that point. I didn't like Sheryl even past the Ranka rescue in episode 12 (I honestly thought she played dirty getting Alto to go with her to Gallia IV, then) - but isn't hindsight a beauty?

So, I'm one of the rare examples of Sheryl haters converted to fans.
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Old 2009-05-25, 07:10   Link #964
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Uh, that is some revision of the timeline here, Wisteria. Sheryl emerged as a fan-favourite at episode 5 and stayed there until the end of the series. People were drawing battle-lines around episode 10, IIRC and *really* began to hate Ranka around episode 20 ( like you said ), but there was a lot of animosity towards here before that.

And you got to name me one Sheryl hater who became her greatest fan. At least one, because I sure as hell dont remember anyone from this board. And I mean one who underwent that change between episodes 22-24, not before.
Thing is I wasn't just talking about this board, I meant overall. Since I have an account in different forums, I was able to gauge their reactions , and in most of them the MF watchers didn't start despising Ranka until episode 20. Welsey who used to be here was also a member one of those forums there too, he must have felt right at home for a while because everyone there hated liked Ranka and hated Sheryl. Then cue episodes 18-24, the members of that same forum began to really hate Ranka and love Sheryl. Even after episode 5 there were still people,and boards that outright hated Sheryl.

I noticed the same thing happened in another MF series thread on other forums as well.

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Old 2009-05-25, 10:32   Link #965
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Sheryl hate or not, popularity or not, I gave her my support since the first episode of Frontier whether or not she was going to win the triangle or become one of the most popular characters of the year.

You could call that a gamble, but it turns out I was right, that is all.

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It's natural...many people thought that Sheryl's a backstabber because her moves on Alto were almost always a success.
To be honest I though at first that Sheryl is just a plot device for Ranka's development and an "angel of love" between Ranka and Alto. It was about until ep 11-12 when it's proven for me that Sheryl is dead-serious and it's a real triangle(about true triangle i mean when both sides have a fair amount of chance to win and all 3 serious about it[for example don't just plays with the other]). When Sheryl is started to feel worser and worser and Ranka has risen as a star then i thought: " Now it's time for Ranka to strike". But actually after ep 12 I rooted for both sides. It lasted until ep 18 where i thought: "convient way to dispose of the rivally, huh?"I expected that Ranka will shine with that(thanks to her a "miracle cure" developed or found and Sheryl is saved) but more and more time lasted and there's still no word about the cure...Instead we've got some Sheryl "shining moments" with Sheryl when she showed her strenght. Ep 21 totally domolished my hopes about the cure and ensured for me(even if temporal) pairing between Sheryl and Alto. I expected a tragic ending maybe with a bittersweet Ranka-Alto reunion in the end. actually ep 20 made me root for her more and more because there were a HUGE lack in Ranka's development. But actually the time when i could consider myself a Sheryl fan was after i rewatched the whole show(with serious focus on characters and their interactions).
Then who woose fan were i am exactly while i watched the show? Actually no one's.
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Sheryl hate or not, popularity or not, I gave her my support since the first episode of Frontier whether or not she was going to win the triangle or become one of the most popular characters of the year.

You could call that a gamble, but it turns out I was right, that is all.

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The prediction of yours is working on other kinds of gamble too? Then I could use your help in some of my bets
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Old 2009-05-25, 12:13   Link #967
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The prediction of yours is working on other kinds of gamble too? Then I could use your help in some of my bets
They usually work. So far, my predictions worked on SEED, even if it took more than half of the series to reveal it (even before the revelations of the poster couple), on KGNE, To Heart II (no resolution, because Tama-ne was easily the most popular pairing)... etc.

Seriously, with some research, you probably have a good idea how the shipping will end up. Not that I care much about shipping besides Frontier, but its a good way to kill time.

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I meant other gambles. Like sports...
Actually many series's romantical development is somewhat like it's decided on the first episode/chapter.
For example almost any harem manga and much of the non-harem romances's outcome is already foreshadowed on the first episode. It's really not so hard to guess.
For example i figured out that Sheryl will be popular even if she has less screentime after episode 1, but i didn't dare to bet that she'll be the most popular from MF.(actually we have a bishounen with questionable looks[alto], MOEnster Ranka, a settled down Roy Focker too...They could've stole the 1st place...especially Ranka)
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Sheryl hate or not, popularity or not, I gave her my support since the first episode of Frontier whether or not she was going to win the triangle or become one of the most popular characters of the year.

You could call that a gamble, but it turns out I was right, that is all.

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She had my support since the moment she appeared. "Strawberry Pie-wa...". But she surpassed all expectations, to become the best female character I ever saw in anime.

Sheryl ganbatte!
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Clearly us normal viewers missed episode 3.5 where Alto and Ranka got married
He watched it forty-two times.
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Old 2009-06-11, 13:38   Link #971
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July NT polls:
Male:
1. Edward Elric
2. Lelouch
3. Kyon
4. Tiera Erde
5. Date Masamune
6. Roy Mustang
7. Kira Yamato
8. Sakata Gintoki
9. Setsuna F Seiei
10. Tomoya Okazaki

Female:
1. C.C
2. Akiyama Mio
3. Hirasawa Yui
4. Suzumiya Haruhi
5. Riza Hawkeye
6. Sheryl Nome
7. Yuki Nagato
8. Lacus Clyne
9. Winry Rockbell
10. Kuniko Hojo

Ed finally topped Lelouch..
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Finally! Someone takes Lelouch's place.
Also, how nice it is to see to see that Sheryl is still in the polls.
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Finally! Someone takes Lelouch's place.
Also, how nice it is to see to see that Sheryl is still in the polls.
Its also very nice to see Lacus and Kira still in the poll after x years!

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^ I actually can't imagine them NOT being in the polls. XD
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Great to see Sheryl having staying power.

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2. Lelouch

Ed finally topped Lelouch..

Hahahahahhahaha, Cheesie you failed, I was right.
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Great to see Sheryl having staying power.




Hahahahahhahaha, Cheesie you failed, I was right.
Cheesie didn't see that coming? Really?!

Cheesie! What is wrong with you!!

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Cheesie didn't see that coming? Really?!

Cheesie! What is wrong with you!!

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Yaoi Withdrawal!
Yeah, I guess Ed just wasn't Yaoi enough for her

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You kidding? She's more than likely an Ed x Roy shipper...
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Old 2009-06-12, 00:17   Link #980
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Yeah, I guess Ed just wasn't Yaoi enough for her

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Takky, the truth is that she is seriously, secretly a LelouchxHarem shipper to the point that Lelouch death cause her so much grief (as well as SuzaxLulu ho yay twisted sheningan) and made her blind to the obvious fact, like how a certain person deny witches that definitely exist!

(I was gonna comment on that before but save it for threatened to be beheaded Westlo to claim his victory first )

Though I do remember she "was" (... Or still "is?) a RoyxEd shipper. Though she had not stated it in red!
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