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Old 2008-09-13, 13:33   Link #441
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That's a pretty nice theory Asashio, but too bad it is not the one I had in mind
And besides, it disobeyed a few Red words statements I had posted before, by DOUBLE-CHECKING I meant look closely, Sometimes I left a few words or phrases un-red'ed for a purpose in a red statement.

-Neither Kanon nor Jessica had locked the door
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Old 2008-09-13, 14:22   Link #442
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Huh... is there actually a reason for the blackened words in a red sentence? I was under the impression that it was there for emphasis...

...I guess it's because the author only recited a part of the original request in red?

Waah~ I give up. Time to watch and see how this unfolds. _| ̄|o
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Old 2008-09-13, 14:43   Link #443
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Did Jessica killed herself?
Did Barter or Kanon locked the door after they find the corpe?
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Old 2008-09-13, 15:45   Link #444
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I'll release the truth probably later
Simple as it though

Keyword: Wrath, Over-reaction
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Old 2008-09-13, 19:27   Link #445
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Satan did it!
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Old 2008-09-13, 19:35   Link #446
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Satan did it!
I agree with Kets xD
she want's Kanon-kun for her alone jk
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Old 2008-09-13, 20:14   Link #447
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I could try this -.-
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If that is not right,I'd ask to recite the following:

- All characters are awake and physicaly healthy during this whole thing.
- Jessica shares a tight bond with Battler.
- Jessica is friends with Battler.
- Jessica loves Battler.
- Kanon loves Battler.
- Jessica and Battler are lovers.
- Jessica and Kanon are lovers.
- Kanon and Battler are lovers.
- All characters know each other; they are not unknown to each other.
- Jessica is not the accomplice of any form.

Just wanna make sure that it's not a love thingy. :Either way, I think the only thing left to figure out is the motive. We pretty much know who the culprit is by now..
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:40   Link #448
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-Jessica is not the accomplice of any form, she is just the victim
-All characters know each other; they are not unknown to each other
-Jessica is Battler's friend and shares a tight bond

All the rest of the statements are refused to recite
and wth are you stating Kanon and Battler are Ghey? =_=|||
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Old 2008-09-14, 05:27   Link #449
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Aww, why not? I always suspected Kanons being that kind of person xD And I had to rule out that chance --'
but guess I'm nailing the point, huh? Nothing better to spark someone's rage than love.
So, what about this?

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well, but I'm still kinda lost here. what are we actually supposed to solve, really? what happened in the room, the motive, or the culprit?

If I'm still not right, please recite the following:
- Battler is just a by-stander during the murder process.
- Kanon is not the culprit and/or the murderer.
- There are only 3 people in the room during this whole thing.
- The door was locked before the murder.
- Once the door is locked, there is ABSOLUTELY no way to get inside the room.
- No supernatural or inhuman events or things or stuff or whatever are related to this whole thing / the murder. (this means that these things are not present during this whole event as well.)
- Kanon had the cleaver the whole time.
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[QUOTE=Exilon;1897926]

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lol I laughed
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Old 2008-09-14, 12:16   Link #451
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- There are only 3 people in the room during this whole thing.
- Once the door is locked, there is ABSOLUTELY no way to get inside the room.- No supernatural or inhuman events or things or stuff or whatever are related to this whole thing / the murder. (this means that these things are not present during this whole event as well.)
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Old 2008-09-14, 13:41   Link #452
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Does that mean I'm not right? :O
oh... =( I'm still waiting for answers to those other questions, though xD


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Please recite the following:

- 'Planned murder' means that the murderer/culprit knew who and why he was going to kill before he entered the room.
- Someone only becomes the "murderer" once that someone has killed someone else.
- The definition of 'culprit' is the same as 'murderer'. (If not, define culprit.)
- Battler does not know anything about the culprit's intentions, plans, or motives, before the murder occurs.
- Jessica does not know she is about to be killed.
- Kanon was the last one to enter the room.
- Battler was the last one to enter the room.
- Jessica was the last one to enter the room.
- Before the murder takes place, all characters are awake.
- Before the murder takes place, all characters are physically healthy.
- Before Jessica is murdered, no struggle takes place between any characters.

Oh, and just for kicks :
- Nor Battler nor Kanon are gay.


and thinking a little more, I can see yet another possibility but I'll stay quiet for now :P
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Old 2008-09-14, 14:42   Link #453
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Battler and Kanon are not gay

- 'Planned murder' means that the murderer/culprit knew who and why he was going to kill before he entered the room.
-The Definition of 'Culprit' means that he/she/it has planned the murder, but doesn't HAVE to be the one commiting it
-Kanon was the first one to enter the room
- Battler was the last one to enter the room.
- Jessica was the first to enter the room

Since this is getting pretty close to the truth
I'll release the truth in the next post
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Old 2008-09-14, 16:16   Link #454
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How nice, eh... that means I only have one more chance! xP
It was exciting anyways :P My brain has already burned from thinking so much about so many possibilities.

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Ok.. anyways, I've just been at this for like half an hour and I keep finding new possibilities... which means, I'm kinda mind-broken here xD Can't wait for the answer :P

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Old 2008-09-14, 16:32   Link #455
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That was a pretty nice theory
and here comes the truth!

Spoiler for Truth:
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Old 2008-09-14, 16:42   Link #456
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So I pratically got everything right :P I feel so proud now.
I just couldn't figure out that aprt about Jessica xD Still...

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Still, very nice one :P Maybe we should try another one just to keep us entertained :P
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Old 2008-09-14, 17:22   Link #457
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Someone made a EP of Umineko, Umineko EP X
That one really was quite interesting, a detective fiction
I'll translate that later
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Old 2008-09-14, 17:32   Link #458
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Ohh~~ I wanna see that :P
I actually found an Umineko story over at fanfcition, it was actually quite good (even though it was a oneshot)...
Here
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Old 2008-09-14, 19:50   Link #459
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Hoorah for Exilon, in that case.

And the fanfiction is really quite good. Glad to see there are authors in the English Umineko fanbase.
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Old 2008-09-15, 02:31   Link #460
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Ohh~~ I wanna see that :P
I actually found an Umineko story over at fanfcition, it was actually quite good (even though it was a oneshot)...
Here
Hey, I wrote that! Yay!

Also, I hadn't read episode 2 at the time, so I was quite surprised that what I wrote became more or less true.
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