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Old 2009-01-15, 16:03   Link #841
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Old 2009-01-15, 16:28   Link #842
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Old 2009-01-15, 16:29   Link #843
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It was actually kind of interesting when you think about it.

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Old 2009-01-15, 18:05   Link #844
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After finishing ep 3, I believe there are 2+ murderers. One of them being Kanon.

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Old 2009-01-15, 19:07   Link #845
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Old 2009-01-15, 19:18   Link #846
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Curiouser and curiouser.

So one is given a mystery as it happens, but not a clear picture of the aftermath, evidence, nor motives.

Almost makes it unsolvable because you don't have what an investigations team would have....a clear picture of the results. Only frames of what is happening. Text (in red) of what is and what isn't truth. And Meta accounting of things that may or may not be as they actually are (magic vs anti-magic).

Quite the mystery....eh Watson?
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Old 2009-01-15, 19:39   Link #847
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Old 2009-01-15, 20:14   Link #848
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Since Beatrice said "killed", you can rule out a "personality" issue. She implied that he died with the literal meaning. So you cannot exactly call out the personality claim here.
Ithekro thought the same, but Beatrice said "killed", not "dead".
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Old 2009-01-15, 20:31   Link #849
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Hmmm..... if that's the case then never mind about the personality thing. But I still think Kanon is suspicious, and has at least killed someone in the first 3 games.


Okay, can someone also explain this to me
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Old 2009-01-15, 20:40   Link #850
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Old 2009-01-15, 20:45   Link #851
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But doesn't that only eliminate my theory for the events in ep 2?

In ep 3 when Beatrice confirms the deaths of all of the victims, did she say dead or killed? All I remember is she listed the names of every victim of the first twilight and then said either dead or killed.
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Old 2009-01-15, 20:48   Link #852
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She said "dead", but by that extrapolation, it means ALL the six are having personality issue (she is applying the red line for all of the 6 at once, so you cannot consider a definition being "different" for one).

That is really too much especially considering she first said "6 people/human". She pretty clearly state their status.
So they died as human/people, there is no confusion possible.
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Old 2009-01-15, 21:03   Link #853
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Ah, okay thanks. I really need to pay more attention to the game then. Mysteries are not my strong-suit.

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Old 2009-01-15, 22:24   Link #854
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Rosa is suspicious indeed in episode 1 and 2. But to me details about her personality in episode 3 make her less suspicious.
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Old 2009-01-15, 23:40   Link #855
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Brings up the question: are we solving one case, or four individual cases that happened differently each time.

If it is one case, then truths in one should be truths in another, or else something is fraud or open to interpretation...even the red text.

If this is four different cases...then what is true for one may not be true for another. The confusion factor is what is throwing people off I imagine. What is and what is not real. What happened and what did not happen.
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Old 2009-01-15, 23:52   Link #856
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I have a feeling that its seperate cases, think about it this way, the true good end may be discovered when the possibility of October the 4th isn't possible.

Also what's the song for when Battler confronts Eva-Beatrice first? The track fits perfectly with his new found badass.
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Old 2009-01-15, 23:57   Link #857
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If this is four different cases...then what is true for one may not be true for another. The confusion factor is what is throwing people off I imagine. What is and what is not real. What happened and what did not happen.
Well. I think the problem is grasping what parts of the "supernatural events" (this is what I them) are supposed to mean.

Like Virigilia said, both supernatural and natural means are happening at the same time. So we only get the murders at the end as what definitely happened.

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Old 2009-01-16, 00:46   Link #858
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I'm like halfway through episode three or so.

I'm enjoying this so far, minus one scene.

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Old 2009-01-16, 00:48   Link #859
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I have a feeling that its seperate cases, think about it this way, the true good end may be discovered when the possibility of October the 4th isn't possible.

Also what's the song for when Battler confronts Eva-Beatrice first? The track fits perfectly with his new found badass.
It's 翼 (tsubasa: wings). Pretty appropriate.
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Old 2009-01-16, 00:54   Link #860
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I'm like halfway through episode three or so.

I'm enjoying this so far, minus one scene.

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That's just the disgusting and tasteless quota for the episode, satisfied by the first twilight murders in the previous games. Agreed that it was pretty vicious, though.
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