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Old 2009-05-31, 12:27   Link #1621
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Spoiler for definite truth:

Anyway, back on being SRS. I would also like to see one of the answer arks, to elaborate a bit more about the story with Kinzo and Beatrice, plus the contract they made, how did he managed to make his business to prosper, why is a Beatrice living in the second Mansion etc.
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Old 2009-05-31, 12:34   Link #1622
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Spoiler for Nanjo's death:
The obvious problem here is what is said in red:
Spoiler for From the 'Web of Truth':
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Old 2009-05-31, 12:50   Link #1623
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The obvious problem here is what is said in red:
Spoiler for From the 'Web of Truth':

I could easily change my theory to something equally ridiculous:
Spoiler for George, Krauss, Natsuhi and Nanjo's deaths:

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Old 2009-05-31, 14:06   Link #1624
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Nah as renal said

Spoiler for nanjo nanjo:
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Old 2009-05-31, 14:59   Link #1625
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Spoiler for Valentine's hypothesis:
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Old 2009-06-02, 10:58   Link #1626
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Old 2009-06-02, 13:01   Link #1627
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Does that count? It's not exactly on Rokkenjima, it's on a reef that you can't reach by land
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Old 2009-06-02, 13:25   Link #1628
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What about the dock? Where exactly is the harbor located?
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Old 2009-06-02, 13:57   Link #1629
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Not very distant from the Mansion, since they go by feet. It's a winding path, Battler describes it well in the first episode, cursing for the fact they could have made it straight, but no, it was more beautiful that way. I could estimate it's about a 5 mins walk.

However nothing is been said about the port, at least untill episode3. As far as I know it could just be an embankment with nothing else around
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Old 2009-06-02, 22:36   Link #1630
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Out of curiosity, as I'm not sure if this theory was discussed:

We first see Virgilia and Beato opening up the flashback scenes in the very beginning, and we find out that the Beatrice title is inherited and not an actual name referring to a person. Taking into mind this piece of information, what are the chances that Kinzo's Beatrice is actually referring to some other person rather than Beato herself? Ever since we discovered that the portrait of the Witch changes according to the person inheriting the title, so there may be a small chance that Kinzo is infatuated with the idea of 'Beatrice', rather than the person holding the title?

Another thing I noticed is that, in the game, she states that now that she passed on the Beatrice title, she has no other name for herself, and thus, took on the short form 'Beato'. I find that a bit strange, if not slightly telling of her origins, because out of all the witches that appeared in the game, she is the only one who doesn't have a name. (Beatrice the Endless Witch - Virgilia/Eva/Enge, Witch of Absolute - Lamdadelta, Witch of Miracles - Bernkastel )
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Old 2009-06-03, 02:08   Link #1631
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Not entirely true. Virgilia chose the name Virgilia (Virgilius at first) because of the reference to Dante's Inferno, where the guides are the Roman poet Virgil and Dante's perfect woman Beatrice. Virgilia also claimed to not have a name before chosing that on the spot.
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Old 2009-06-03, 07:44   Link #1632
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Spoiler for Beatrice up until ep3:
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Old 2009-06-03, 07:50   Link #1633
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Not entirely true. Virgilia chose the name Virgilia (Virgilius at first) because of the reference to Dante's Inferno, where the guides are the Roman poet Virgil and Dante's perfect woman Beatrice. Virgilia also claimed to not have a name before chosing that on the spot.
Not totally true: Virgilia true name WAS Beatrice.
However, starting from her, it became a custom for the golden witch lineage to inherit the name of "Beatrice" once they succeed the predecessor.

Since Beatrice is now the name of the golden witch (no longer Virgilia unique and personal name), she claims she doesn't have any anymore.
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Old 2009-06-03, 12:43   Link #1634
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Ah, I see. So the tradition started with Virgilila? Thanks for the correction.
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Old 2009-06-03, 13:02   Link #1635
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Something I just noticed - again

Kanon always dies the same way...pierced into the chest.
I dunno it kinda makes me think...could it be that his death is always done by the same person....himself?
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Old 2009-06-04, 15:19   Link #1637
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I searched for "Azukishima" (the old name for Rokkenjima) and found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azuki_Island (part of Antarctica)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shodoshima
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Old 2009-06-04, 15:39   Link #1638
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Shikinejima: turn it clockwise by 90 degrees and you get Rokkenjima...
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Old 2009-06-04, 16:27   Link #1639
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azuki_Island (part of Antarctica)
The antarctica pops again °°;

@Rias what do you mean? I don't get it...
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Old 2009-06-04, 16:39   Link #1640
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Look at the image, then view then opening movie to episode 4 again. Compare the two pictures.

Since Shikenijima is in the Izu islands, it's probably the basis for Rokkenjima.
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