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Old 2010-04-23, 14:06   Link #321
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Old 2010-04-23, 20:12   Link #322
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yeah.... wait....

so hiyori in synapse is an angel? or angeLOID?
now i know that daedalus is an angel confirmed...
AND she built ikaros, nymph, astraea and chaos right?
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Old 2010-04-24, 01:26   Link #323
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yeah.... wait....

so hiyori in synapse is an angel? or angeLOID?
now i know that daedalus is an angel confirmed...
AND she built ikaros, nymph, astraea and chaos right?

Hiori is a sleeping in a capsule (among thousends other capsules) on synapse... her orginal look is the same as the hiori on earth but with wings (so yeah an angel)

we dont know what is the connection between earth Hiori and synapse angel hiori..... mostly like when the angel form is sleeping at synapse... on earth appears her other self in human form (just like sleeping tomoki appears at synapse grounds)

I would love to learn if the earh hiori is aware of her sleeping self on synapse or not (what if its like heaven/earth relantionship.... when hiori dies on earth she wakes up at synapse.... kinda like the earth form is just liveing a normal human life dream... when the life comes to an end the dream comes to an end too... and the angel wakes up)


anywya Deidalos and Hiori are pure angels (nor aneloids... duo angeloids dont sleep ^^) but deidalos is kinda special becouse she has 2 pairs of angel wings... while hiori has only 1normal pair.... the same deidalos is the constructor of Ikaros, Nymph and astrea...

Chaos the new generation is not deidalos work.... as she was sooo supprised about her existance....
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Old 2010-04-24, 08:24   Link #324
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Hiori is a sleeping in a capsule (among thousends other capsules) on synapse... her orginal look is the same as the hiori on earth but with wings (so yeah an angel)

we dont know what is the connection between earth Hiori and synapse angel hiori..... mostly like when the angel form is sleeping at synapse... on earth appears her other self in human form (just like sleeping tomoki appears at synapse grounds)

I would love to learn if the earh hiori is aware of her sleeping self on synapse or not (what if its like heaven/earth relantionship.... when hiori dies on earth she wakes up at synapse.... kinda like the earth form is just liveing a normal human life dream... when the life comes to an end the dream comes to an end too... and the angel wakes up)


anywya Deidalos and Hiori are pure angels (nor aneloids... duo angeloids dont sleep ^^) but deidalos is kinda special becouse she has 2 pairs of angel wings... while hiori has only 1normal pair.... the same deidalos is the constructor of Ikaros, Nymph and astrea...

Chaos the new generation is not deidalos work.... as she was sooo supprised about her existance....
so who built her then?

so the angeloid's classifications imo are this....

IKAROS
range - she can destroy a country and even the tower of babel. 'nuff said
close combat - she's able but is surpassed by astraea
damage resistance - equivalent to a super tank
combat recommendation - versatile

NYMPH
range - though lacking in heavy weaponry, she compensates it through her long range scanner and hacking
close combat - i dont think she can be combat effective there too
damage resistance - yeah right.... she can only take so much before going down
combat recommendation - support unit

ASTRAEA
range - does she even have one?
close combat - she's more effective than ikaros....
damage resistance - she can take a helluva punishment against close range but she's a sitting duck against range units
combat recommendation - CQB specialist

TOMOKI (im speculating this IF he was a resident of synapse)
range - just be imagined being bombarded by small tactical nukes
close combat - try punching a god in the face and get away with it...
damage resistance - only a certain item can smash him
combat recommendation - hero....
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Old 2010-04-24, 10:54   Link #325
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Old 2010-04-24, 14:26   Link #326
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so who built her then?
who are you talking about ?? Chaos ??

if you mention chaos than the current synapse council was the one that done that ^^

deidalos was the constructor of Ikaros (and her wing system that council wants to have duo its super amazeing power).... nymph and astrea only...

she mostly locked herself in that sphere-house and was connecting to tomoki.... while the council was building chaos...
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Old 2010-04-24, 19:49   Link #327
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^That certain item that can smash Tomoki, it wouldn't happen to be a certain karate chop, would it?
well THAT can be added... well i dunno yet if he really is a god level angeloid teh council sealed in or probably reincarnated because they killed his original body....

also i was talking about chaos.....

the second gen only uses illusion? i dont think she can outmatch ikaros in terms of heavy weaponry as ikaros IS heavy weaponry....

guys... what if mikako WAS like hiyori?
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Old 2010-04-25, 14:30   Link #328
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Old 2010-04-25, 14:38   Link #329
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Eh?

Tomoki didn't go super saiyan 5 after this? I demand a explanation from the mangaka
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Old 2010-04-25, 15:08   Link #330
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Eh?

Tomoki didn't go super saiyan 5 after this? I demand a explanation from the mangaka
this is only 1panel... there are mostly more pages about his mental break down after seeing this...

maybe this will lead to sugatas explanation that he saw hiori up at sunapse... so tomoki will be more interested in sunapse now...


anyway this is sooooo f...g sad..... so now Hioris brothers are left alone... her family fields are left alone to die as she will disappear.... (earth hiori)... still how did she die... truck hit her... damn I want to see this so much

but other thing that is sad is that.... someone confessed to tomoki... and they ended up dead... Tomoki will get a depression... mental break down.... crying a lot.... ect. other girls might feel deeply sad after seeing him like that....

but it would be good if deidalos told tomoki that hiori is from synapse and what died is only her earth self while she is alive at synapose... this might make him want to go there to see her.... or deidalos might find her and take her into her room as observing and waiting for tomoki....

still its fucking sad...... hiori confessed in previous chapter... and now she got killed right in front of tomokis eyes.... maybe even becouse of him (we see a bentou there... so mostly she was going to see tomoki as this accident happened)...

tomo might think that he is cursed for not beign allowed to be loved.... everyone that will confess to him will end up dead... he might cut himself from others after this..... but personaly I think he will lock himself in his room and close inside.... not responding to others....... just lieing down in his room not giveing even a single word.... well Hiori was such pure and good girl... and she gets to get killed.... T_____T

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Old 2010-04-25, 15:24   Link #331
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maybe this will lead to sugatas explanation that he saw hiori up at sunapse... so tomoki will be more interested in sunapse now...
True, but if you think about it... who's actually to blame for all this? Tomoki involves everyone when he sees someone in trouble and never hides secrets like his dream. I"m sure that even he would take some measures if Sugata revealed Hiyori's appearance in the synapse, like for example letting Ikaros guard/observe her or something.

The others however like Sugata//Nymph remain silent about what's happening around him and then stuff like this happens. Ugh, this feels so simular to what happens with Minato in Sekirei.
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Old 2010-04-25, 15:59   Link #332
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yeah I hope that after hearing from sugata that he was useing his dream to enter synapse and fool around..... he will hit sugata into face.... tell him that he is not his friend anymore... and that he quits this stupid club of his..... and that he is forbidden to use the gate to synapse ever again....

well sugata was useing tomokis dream behind his back as he pleased.... and that launched the "alarm at synapse" the council got pissed becouse of his trespasing... they send chaos down..... only to screw up Deidalos hideout and her sneak plan behind councils back (since she had to save sugata from synapse guardians the 2 chimeras).... and leaded to death of all tomokis angeloids which was very close...

everything becouse of sugatas selfishness..... he does what he wants and doesnt put tomokis concern..... he doesnt allow sohara or nymph to tell about it to tomoki....

WTF its his dream that glassy fuck... seriously I hope hat tomoki will throw it at his face to fuck off... becouse he was selfish and did not inform him about hiori... she could have died just now...... so what is she might be alive in the synapse... if tomoki is forced to live on earth as human.... now he is separated from hiori...

well sohara and nymph are at fault too.... sohara does what she wanted to trespass synapse... fool around and not inform her best friend from childhood... becouse sugata (who she might know from just 1-2years) said not to tell tomoki.... WTF is this so called best friend... she used tomokis dream to have fun on her own and not inform him about it.... so she is responsible for hioris death too...

nymph too... she wants tomoki to be her master.... but she listens to someone others orders... here sugata wants to go to synapse "OK go ahead"... she doesnt mentions it to tomoki.... and she does the same thing for sugata over and over again...

it seems that sugata doesnt feel responsible for the Chaos incident at all... that his trespassing syunapse has nothing to do with it... so here I would put LOT of blame on sugata.... and ban the "go to synapse whenever I want it" and ban from going to his home again...


well sugata is useing tomoki only as tool for his own hobby... the new continent... without tomoki he would do shit...... so yeah I hope taht tomo will get pissed off on him that he was useing the machine to go to synapse as he wished and did not inform him (the dream owner) about it....


T____T I really liked hioris character... she was refreshing.... less annoying than sohara.... yet she has to disappear like this.... while leaveing tomoki in mental & emotional breakdown... as the girls who said "love him" died day after that right in fron of his eyes (maybe she will tell last words on his arms than die).............. still I want tomoki to fall into a deep breakdown.... he would close himself up... wouldnt respont to anyone... wouldnt talk to anyone... wouldnt pay atention to ecchi stuff...... so everyone around would feel his suffering...

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Old 2010-04-25, 16:16   Link #333
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yeah I hope that after hearing from sugata that he was useing his dream to enter synapse and fool around..... he will hit sugata into face.... tell him that he is not his friend anymore... and that he quits this stupid club of his..... and that he is forbidden to use the gate to synapse ever again....
When was this guy considered by us readers or Tomoki to be a friend?
  • He sold Tomoki out when Ikaros and Nymph allowed several animals to flee from the Zoo.
  • He uses his dream in order to gain access to the synapse without Tomoki's permission.
  • He never informed or warned Tomoki about Mikako's plans which always result in him getting his ass kicked.
  • He was silently watching when Nymph was harrassed by Chaos and didn't bother to do anything which could help out Tomoki.
  • He doesn't even bother to become a messenger for Daedalus who asks him for his help to reach Tomoki.
  • Now he's indirectly responsible for Hiyori's death because he hides information which is meant for Tomoki.

So yeah, i hope that he gets his ass kicked several times.
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Old 2010-04-25, 16:40   Link #334
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When was this guy considered by us readers or Tomoki to be a friend?
  • He sold Tomoki out when Ikaros and Nymph allowed several animals to flee from the Zoo.
  • He uses his dream in order to gain access to the synapse without Tomoki's permission.
  • He never informed or warned Tomoki about Mikako's plans which always result in him getting his ass kicked.
  • He was silently watching when Nymph was harrassed by Chaos and didn't bother to do anything which could help out Tomoki.
  • He doesn't even bother to become a messenger for Daedalus who asks him for his help to reach Tomoki.
  • Now he's indirectly responsible for Hiyori's death because he hides information which is meant for Tomoki.

So yeah, i hope that he gets his ass kicked several times.
you could add
  • Screwes up Deidalos secret hideout becouse she had to save him from chimeras... and he was not even sorry
  • his trespassing on synapse made synapse to send chaos who almost kills ikaros, nymph and astrea........ tomoki's trespassings were marked as "safe"... but when sugata got there tomoki was the one marked as "to be killed" it was sugatas fault that shit happens here and he doesnt take responsibility for it...

I hope that tomoki orders his angeloids to not listen to anyone else orders especially sugata and mikako.... or hear orders that mena to let sugata enter synapse (like sugata asks Sohara to give the order for his own sake... like useing sohara to baypass the "dont hear orders from them" command)

Sugata more than helping is screwing everything up... his actions are couse of lots shit happening (bad things)

it would be good if tomoki got pissed on sohara too for not telling him.... so he yells that she is not his friend anymore (sohara will be the one that will suffer duo that tomoki is kinda her only friend)... and that she is forbidden to enter his house....... this would finaly show sohara what she has done and make her realize things and how she treated him...

but I wonder what soharas reaction will be.... like 2chapters back sohara was at the end cyring by learning that hiori likes tomoki and what she has to do now...... but now Hiori will die..... will she be in shock like tomoki.... cry in night for her and tomoki........ or will she be glad that the enemy is gone and tomoki is hers now... (smiling why thinking about it that she got rid of strong rival)
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Old 2010-04-25, 18:58   Link #335
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Old 2010-04-25, 19:45   Link #336
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you could add
  • Screwes up Deidalos secret hideout becouse she had to save him from chimeras... and he was not even sorry
  • his trespassing on synapse made synapse to send chaos who almost kills ikaros, nymph and astrea........ tomoki's trespassings were marked as "safe"... but when sugata got there tomoki was the one marked as "to be killed" it was sugatas fault that shit happens here and he doesnt take responsibility for it...

I hope that tomoki orders his angeloids to not listen to anyone else orders especially sugata and mikako.... or hear orders that mena to let sugata enter synapse (like sugata asks Sohara to give the order for his own sake... like useing sohara to baypass the "dont hear orders from them" command)

Sugata more than helping is screwing everything up... his actions are couse of lots shit happening (bad things)

it would be good if tomoki got pissed on sohara too for not telling him.... so he yells that she is not his friend anymore (sohara will be the one that will suffer duo that tomoki is kinda her only friend)... and that she is forbidden to enter his house....... this would finaly show sohara what she has done and make her realize things and how she treated him...

but I wonder what soharas reaction will be.... like 2chapters back sohara was at the end cyring by learning that hiori likes tomoki and what she has to do now...... but now Hiori will die..... will she be in shock like tomoki.... cry in night for her and tomoki........ or will she be glad that the enemy is gone and tomoki is hers now... (smiling why thinking about it that she got rid of strong rival)
guys... didnt he say that he was a scientist studying the new world?

proven true to his claims, he is a scientist.... experimenting and trying new things... not that i applaud the SOB but his methods are like "i'm gonna experience it and i will do whatever it takes just to experience it" or "in science, necessary sacrifice must be achieved"..... due to his eccentricity, he believes they are all lab rats inside an artificial world.... so it matters not to him who dies or who lives... just so that he can reach his ends.... he doesnt care what the means are.... only that it gets to the ends with results

but hiyori is still alive.... her lower world shell dies from what we need to see the true reason... maybe shot by chaos or was forcibly plugged off from her pod by the council....

whatever the reason.... i dont think tomoki is gonna bow after this.... sure he will get some emo moments and recluse.... but if unexpected happens and daedalus will come down PERSONALLY, with wings and all, and reveal some shit we need fast, and go fight the council.....

also.... maybe tomoki was an ancient angel?
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Old 2010-04-25, 19:46   Link #337
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I hope that Tomoki "awakens" his angel/hidden powers and force chokes Sugata to death.
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Old 2010-04-25, 20:06   Link #338
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I hope that Tomoki "awakens" his angel/hidden powers and force chokes Sugata to death.
force chokes..... naw..... that wont be enough..... it wont nearly be enough....

when he 'awakes' is powers, the perverseness (i highly believe that it is a limiter for tomoki as NO ONE could be THAT perverted) will be gone and we shall see him... having THREE pairs of angel wings.... and an epic aura to boot
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Old 2010-04-25, 20:15   Link #339
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When was this guy considered by us readers or Tomoki to be a friend?
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I've considered him to be one since the first volume. And I thought Tomoki considered him one since... one of the volumes before volume 3. Haven't seen any proof myself to begin doubting what I think.
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Ah well.... Her death flag has been flying high and proud since introduction, just no one thought it would be this quick.
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