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Old 2010-06-27, 02:38   Link #501
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Oh yeah, now that the stuff with Hiyori is over, I wonder if it is time for Chaos to come back again.
Nah, we'll have 3 or 4 chapters of funny, perverted Tomoki chapters before we get back into the serious plot.
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Old 2010-06-27, 02:41   Link #502
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Nah, we'll have 3 or 4 chapters of funny, perverted Tomoki chapters before we get back into the serious plot.
That sounds great !d(^^)b!
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Old 2010-06-27, 02:52   Link #503
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The Master in the sky really needs to get his butt out of that chair and do something more direct for once. He's tried... like 4 times now and the same result everytime, so I wonder if he will learn his lesson this time.
Oh yeah, now that the stuff with Hiyori is over, I wonder if it is time for Chaos to come back again.
He's an arrogant people remember?, she won't dirtyed his hand to such a low life (in his eyes)

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Er...... What?
PS: Rather, Nymph is probably the most popular character of this series? The manga-ka himself seems to love her too.
If she did, then how come she make the so called popular character have such a moment in previous 2 chapter?
Ikaros is the mos popular character IMO, except for loli fans ...who's like flat chested and Tsundere attitude out there
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Old 2010-06-27, 14:14   Link #504
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If she did, then how come she make the so called popular character have such a moment in previous 2 chapter?

Ikaros is the mos popular character IMO, except for loli fans ...who's like flat chested and Tsundere attitude out there
1. What, that was "bad" treatment? Well, it seems you obviously really hated that, but I hardly found that treatment bad nor did I find that a development to make people hate Nymph.
Basically to sum it up, I don't see what you are saying.

2. There is no IMO when it comes to most popular character. Because it refers to the opinions of other people including yourself. The only way you can apply IMO is through denial of reality and creating your own reality.
PS: I assume you are trying to say "loli fans who like flat chested and tsundere attitude" and not "loli fans who are flat chested and tsundere attitude", but anyways, I would like to point out... there's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 2010-06-27, 22:13   Link #505
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YES!!!!!! SHE'S BACK!!!!!!!! but really... i pity her a bit for the mechanical addition that were implanted......

i can now finally breathe easy.... guys.... but still... hiyori experienced the 'stroggification' method of replacements... notably her wings.....

i can name two things after this......

Hiyori's add on - Chaos Weapon System

her type - since she's a hybrid..... a Zeta or Rho class will suffice

Nymph is one powerful unit when it comes to electronic warfare.... though i wish she could fire an EMP to make her a force to reckon with....
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Old 2010-06-28, 06:33   Link #506
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YES!!!!!! SHE'S BACK!!!!!!!! but really... i pity her a bit for the mechanical addition that were implanted......

i can now finally breathe easy.... guys.... but still... hiyori experienced the 'stroggification' method of replacements... notably her wings.....

i can name two things after this......

Hiyori's add on - Chaos Weapon System

her type - since she's a hybrid..... a Zeta or Rho class will suffice

Nymph is one powerful unit when it comes to electronic warfare.... though i wish she could fire an EMP to make her a force to reckon with....
Nymph needed the upgrade plot wise. Since Hiori also has an EW package that rivals Nymph's default levels she need something else to secure her place as the EW specialist in the gang.
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Old 2010-06-28, 07:36   Link #507
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1. What, that was "bad" treatment? Well, it seems you obviously really hated that, but I hardly found that treatment bad nor did I find that a development to make people hate Nymph.
Basically to sum it up, I don't see what you are saying.

2. There is no IMO when it comes to most popular character. Because it refers to the opinions of other people including yourself. The only way you can apply IMO is through denial of reality and creating your own reality.
PS: I assume you are trying to say "loli fans who like flat chested and tsundere attitude" and not "loli fans who are flat chested and tsundere attitude", but anyways, I would like to point out... there's nothing wrong with that.
1.not my problem hyahahahahaha

2.Yes there is. Some one inform me that most popular character not Nymph but Ikaros. So I didn't deny reality, but deny your statement that Nymph is most popular character.
Wait! there is some loli fans with flat chest and tsundere attitude exist out there? that's...amazing!

oh! after read my post again...I know I make a mistake...I forgot to type one more word...sorry
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...except for loli fans ...who's like flat chested and Tsundere attitude character out there
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Old 2010-06-28, 12:02   Link #508
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1.not my problem hyahahahahaha

2.Yes there is. Some one inform me that most popular character not Nymph but Ikaros. So I didn't deny reality, but deny your statement that Nymph is most popular character.
Wait! there is some loli fans with flat chest and tsundere attitude exist out there? that's...amazing!

oh! after read my post again...I know I make a mistake...I forgot to type one more word...sorry
...................................Forget it, I don't know why I bothered to converse with you.
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Old 2010-06-28, 13:25   Link #509
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...................................Forget it, I don't know why I bothered to converse with you.
don't be like that..... where is your humor sense.....

what I mean as "bad treatment" previous post ago...because if some author like his/her character in the manga, he will make the char have such moment that will boost their image to be better, but in Nymph case, Minazuki make her do such horrible act by keep a secret from a person dearest to her (Tomoki) about Hiyori, even tough she know Hiyori is some one that make Tomoki smile and laugh better than her or other person in Tomoki life before Hiyori come.

May be it's Minazuki unique style...but still in my eyes it's was bad treatment to a character and didn't make good impression about Nymph at all, at least till this latest chapter, where Minazuki "repaired" Nymph image.


hmmm...Sugata back to earth save and sound, probably because Dream Dive Game Machine reset procedure, which pull him to earth from Synapse, and save him from turning to Hybrid Angeloids like Hiyori.
And now Hiyori can summon weather....pour a rain on the poor soul complete with frog on his head

Lol at Tomoki count his UMA....
1.Ikaros (Alpha)
2.Nymph (Beta)
3.Astarea (Delta)
4.Hiyori (Omega????)

*UMA=Unidentified Mysterious Animal
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Old 2010-06-28, 17:05   Link #510
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don't be like that..... where is your humor sense.....

what I mean as "bad treatment" previous post ago...because if some author like his/her character in the manga, he will make the char have such moment that will boost their image to be better, but in Nymph case, Minazuki make her do such horrible act by keep a secret from a person dearest to her (Tomoki) about Hiyori, even tough she know Hiyori is some one that make Tomoki smile and laugh better than her or other person in Tomoki life before Hiyori come.

May be it's Minazuki unique style...but still in my eyes it's was bad treatment to a character and didn't make good impression about Nymph at all, at least till this latest chapter, where Minazuki "repaired" Nymph image.


hmmm...Sugata back to earth save and sound, probably because Dream Dive Game Machine reset procedure, which pull him to earth from Synapse, and save him from turning to Hybrid Angeloids like Hiyori.
And now Hiyori can summon weather....pour a rain on the poor soul complete with frog on his head

Lol at Tomoki count his UMA....
1.Ikaros (Alpha)
2.Nymph (Beta)
3.Astarea (Delta)
4.Hiyori (Omega????)

*UMA=Unidentified Mysterious Animal
Was it said that Hiori is omega? Because I doubt we have seen all the Angeloids yet.
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Old 2010-06-28, 17:27   Link #511
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Was it said that Hiori is omega? Because I doubt we have seen all the Angeloids yet.
well we still dont know if her body got fully angeloidzed....or is she hybrid... angel-flesh + robotic parts that will allow her to use weapons and all...

since still she doesnt look like she has any of the standard options of "power/emotions/processing" that ikaros, astrea and nymph have....

hiori is strong, did not lose her own memories, emotions and love for tomoki.... so hard to tell what is she now.... full angeloid (that has memories remained)... hybrid with only few robotic attachment... like those metal gears have been attached on her existing wings (maybe to prevent tearing them off.. as the metal parts hold them together)

anyway I think they mentioned a "Z" which might reffer to "Zeta".... but well I guess she was not completely turned into angeloid... as she required 5chains (arms,legs and neck) to take control over her and suppress her own emotions, memories and personality...


anyway haha maybe Deidalos needs to undergoo similar process to be together with tomoki... just like hiori is now ^^ (she is in her own body and not illusion... tomoki wont forget her anymore...she has stealed his kiss similar how ikaros did... and the most important she is free now... but sad that her body has been modified as she looked cute in that white dress..while now its more like battle armor)
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Old 2010-06-28, 19:03   Link #512
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My take is that she's a full body cyborg like Major for GITS. The power/emotions/processing thing was with allocation of finite AI resources. Since such things are add-ons for Hiori for her case they are not applicable.
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Old 2010-06-28, 19:42   Link #513
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well we still dont know if her body got fully angeloidzed....or is she hybrid... angel-flesh + robotic parts that will allow her to use weapons and all...
We have no information if the Angels are indeed fully flesh. They have long lifespans(if they even age at all), Daidalos made Ikaros, and that was a LONG time ago, and she still looks like a girl. They don't seem to be immortal since they can fear death/capture(?).

All the Angels could indeed be cyborgs/androids or with an outer layer of synthetic flesh(Terminator?). I'm guessing if so, they aren't very good at combat/fighting hence making "Angeloids".
If Chaos does "grow-up", that would be something new(if they got mechanical parts, they shouldn't be able to "grow").


Also the Angels in the tubes don't seem to be frozen or in suspended animation, yet they don't acquire food/liquids while "sleeping".
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Old 2010-06-28, 20:50   Link #514
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well we still dont know if her body got fully angeloidzed....or is she hybrid... angel-flesh + robotic parts that will allow her to use weapons and all...

since still she doesnt look like she has any of the standard options of "power/emotions/processing" that ikaros, astrea and nymph have....

hiori is strong, did not lose her own memories, emotions and love for tomoki.... so hard to tell what is she now.... full angeloid (that has memories remained)... hybrid with only few robotic attachment... like those metal gears have been attached on her existing wings (maybe to prevent tearing them off.. as the metal parts hold them together)

anyway I think they mentioned a "Z" which might reffer to "Zeta".... but well I guess she was not completely turned into angeloid... as she required 5chains (arms,legs and neck) to take control over her and suppress her own emotions, memories and personality...


anyway haha maybe Deidalos needs to undergoo similar process to be together with tomoki... just like hiori is now ^^ (she is in her own body and not illusion... tomoki wont forget her anymore...she has stealed his kiss similar how ikaros did... and the most important she is free now... but sad that her body has been modified as she looked cute in that white dress..while now its more like battle armor)
deidalos HAS no chains with her..... also..... she has been implanted with the Chaos Weapon System or the Zeta Armor Core System.... lawl....
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Old 2010-06-28, 21:25   Link #515
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We have no information if the Angels are indeed fully flesh. They have long lifespans(if they even age at all), Daidalos made Ikaros, and that was a LONG time ago, and she still looks like a girl. They don't seem to be immortal since they can fear death/capture(?).

All the Angels could indeed be cyborgs/androids or with an outer layer of synthetic flesh(Terminator?). I'm guessing if so, they aren't very good at combat/fighting hence making "Angeloids".
If Chaos does "grow-up", that would be something new(if they got mechanical parts, they shouldn't be able to "grow").


Also the Angels in the tubes don't seem to be frozen or in suspended animation, yet they don't acquire food/liquids while "sleeping".
There are many different levels of "immortal", the basic is simply not ageing. I would say that angeloids are robots since they have to be "made" and has a computer AI. Hiori was "turned".

As for the pods we only get a brief glimpse of them and we really don't know how they work.
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Old 2010-06-29, 01:30   Link #516
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We have no information if the Angels are indeed fully flesh. They have long lifespans(if they even age at all), Daidalos made Ikaros, and that was a LONG time ago, and she still looks like a girl. They don't seem to be immortal since they can fear death/capture(?).

All the Angels could indeed be cyborgs/androids or with an outer layer of synthetic flesh(Terminator?). I'm guessing if so, they aren't very good at combat/fighting hence making "Angeloids".
If Chaos does "grow-up", that would be something new(if they got mechanical parts, they shouldn't be able to "grow").


Also the Angels in the tubes don't seem to be frozen or in suspended animation, yet they don't acquire food/liquids while "sleeping".
why flesh... well becouse angeloids dont sleep... so robots dont sleep and dont dream... so it points that they might be real flesh... but I guess we will never learn how that synapse guy did it as i would be too cruel to look on...

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deidalos HAS no chains with her..... also..... she has been implanted with the Chaos Weapon System or the Zeta Armor Core System.... lawl....
....are you serious.... well if soo than look on hiori who woke up from sleeping pod.... she "too has no chains on at that time".... but later as she got changed...synpase guy put on her "5 chains" normaly angelopids (full robots) require only 1 to make them follow the rules.... yet here when a synapse citizen was changed he had to put 5chains to take control over her body and mind (not allow her to resist)

Offcourse that deidalos (the constructor of ikaros,astrea and nymph) has no chains... she hide herself on a tree house and observes tomoki and his party... if she was captured she mostly would end up dead or in similar situation as Hiori.... so she alone with her own hands would have to destroy "her own children [that she made] "

about chaos weapon systems and zeta armor system all.... no information... we can just speculate or wait for translation to see if there are some infos on what the synapse guy did to hiori.....ehhhh becouse she carries the "Zeta" nickname doesnt mean she has a zeta core.... its just a product symbol nothing else (like Alfa,beta,delta, epsilon now zeta)


anyway Hiori should imprint herself to tomoki so he would be with her all the time... and live with him like other angeloids ^^ but I guess she is not fully angeloid... as she doesnt show the standard power ballance that angeloids are applied with like:

Ikaros: very low emotional level... but has strong power and processing
Astrea: very low processing (idiot)... but has strong emotional and power
Nymph: very low (fighting) power...but strong emotional and processing

well Hiori looked like she had: strong power, emotion level (has her old memories and feelings of love and compassion for tomoki)... hard to tell about processing as I doubt she fully changed.... still have to see translation as on page 2 there is a little talk between synapse guy and deidalos on what he did to hiori...
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Old 2010-06-30, 09:30   Link #517
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That was a very good chapter. As always, the Synapse guy asks Nymph to stop. But got a strong response in return.

"YOU ARE NOT MY MASTER!!!"
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Old 2010-06-30, 19:24   Link #518
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That was a very good chapter. As always, the Synapse guy asks Nymph to stop. But got a strong response in return.

"YOU ARE NOT MY MASTER!!!"
It is still somewhat of a tragedy that she still has the master/slave mentality and can't function properly without it. Her mental trauma is just too great. Ikaros doesn't have that problem while Astrea is simply too dumb to care (or rather, Astrea actually have the will to decide her own future.)
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It is still somewhat of a tragedy that she still has the master/slave mentality and can't function properly without it. Her mental trauma is just too great. Ikaros doesn't have that problem while Astrea is simply too dumb to care (or rather, Astrea actually have the will to decide her own future.)
really... the bastard lord got a bitch slap right in the face.... REJOICE PEOPLE OF AS AS THIS MARKS THE FALL OF THE USURPER!!!!!!
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really... the bastard lord got a bitch slap right in the face.... REJOICE PEOPLE OF AS AS THIS MARKS THE FALL OF THE USURPER!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Synapse guy is named Lucifer or something like that.
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