(L) Narutaru discussion

[marin]

Originally Posted by CodeWordChobits

Hehe, I am really looking forward to reading the manga... and if you don't already know, it has been released in the US by Darkhorse comics. It isn't called Narutaru though... it's called "Shadow Star." So keep an eye out for it. I just hope they didn't tone it down too much... oh wells.

The head of Studio Proteus basically said that they are NOT going to run that volume of NaruTaru as it is, and I don't think simply "toning it down" would be enough...

[TronDD]

I read on this board that they are going to have the artist redraw a few scenes.

I bought the Japanese language versions to make sure I get uncensored mind warping violence.

EDIT: However, ironically, I like the "leave it to your imagination" style of the violance in the anime series.

[Flash_Squirrel]

Originally Posted by corp20

I have one question for you all...

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Okay you guys remember that scene when Hiro-chan dragnet burst in on that "head girl" that picked on her. When was she sleeping with her brother? Thats what it looked like to me.

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The guy had a relationship with her sister (The one who got cutted in half). Remember that in the manga she was pantyless and her brother was with only his pants on.

[TronDD]

Family bonds are stronger in Japanese culture.

[TronDD]

I just watched the nurse's office scene in episode 11 and thought of something else.

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Another indication of Sakura being sexually abused. When the boy from the beggining of the series with the knife dragonet is hitting on her, he says he likes her hair. So what does Sakura do, but cut her hair off. Trying to be unattractive to evil men that want her for sex.
And in the nurses office, I think it's pretty apparent she knows what she's doing.

With they'd hurry up and translate all the manga.

[Goras]

So... the US version of narutaru manga is going to be "changed"?

@#$@#$

[Briareos]

Originally Posted by Goras

So... the US version of narutaru manga is going to be "changed"?@#$@#$

Well, StudioProteus.com just closed (they announced it on their site before it went down -- yes it's closed) so I can't give you any links, but Studio Proteus never stated HOW Dark Horse was going to handle the situation. Toren Smith of Studio Proteus said that there may be some trouble running that chapter, but it was up to Dark Horse to decide how the situation was going to be handled.

Please don't have a cow until we either get confimation that the series will be edited, or it comes out (or doesn't come out) in Super Manga Blast or a collected Graphic Novel. No one knows yet.

[Deralti]

Originally Posted by Briareos

Well, StudioProteus.com just closed (they announced it on their site before it went down -- yes it's closed) so I can't give you any links, but Studio Proteus never stated HOW Dark Horse was going to handle the situation. Toren Smith of Studio Proteus said that there may be some trouble running that chapter, but it was up to Dark Horse to decide how the situation was going to be handled.

Please don't have a cow until we either get confimation that the series will be edited, or it comes out (or doesn't come out) in Super Manga Blast or a collected Graphic Novel. No one knows yet.

Aggh! I just BOUGHT narutaru manga 1!

Is it ok if someone scans the "toned down" scenes and translates them(or at least tells me) so i know what I missed(if they DO tone it down, that is.)

[Goras]

The volume that we are talking here is vol 5? because this one is to be released in march 2004 I think.

[Flash_Squirrel]

Originally Posted by Goras

The volume that we are talking here is vol 5? because this one is to be released in march 2004 I think.

Volume 6.....

[SirCanealot]

Heh, if the Narutaru manga is cencored it's a huge step back from how far we've come already.
Grrr, don't licence it if you can't bring it out in its original form -_-

[LordBrian]

Heh, if the Narutaru manga is cencored it's a huge step back from how far we've come already.

I disagree. I think that the fact that it's coming out at all is a huge step forward.

[tsurumaru]

Originally Posted by Deralti

Aggh! I just BOUGHT narutaru manga 1!

Is it ok if someone scans the "toned down" scenes and translates them(or at least tells me) so i know what I missed(if they DO tone it down, that is.)

Hmm nothing censored visually that I 've spotted to date (althought the later scenes in Volume 6 are going to be a cert) as well as possibally parts of Volume 10, 11 and 12....

In terms of conversations though there have been a few changes (probably for legal reasons). Ie the girl that came to tell tsurumaru (see my avvy) she was pregnant with his child was only 14 years old
Also the first time that Shiina and Akira meet Tsurumaru and Norio, afterwards Norio and Tsurumaru discuss their meeting with the girls and Tsurumaru tells Norio he can tell that Akira is a potential Nymphomaniac I'm pretty sure Dark Horse glossed over this because of Akira's age too (although they may have problems with the later volumes with another character......).

[TronDD]

Sex and 15 year olds isn't a problem in the Battle Royale manga. And that doesn't just talk about it. That one is released by Tokyopop, I think. It's less a legal issue than one of company standards, I'd say. I guess Dark Horse would rather be known to edit and censor the manga they license than as peddlers of lolita smut.

[marin]

Well Dark Horse/Studio Proteus are not selling "Shadow Star" as an OMG MATURE manga like Battle Royale, they are selling it as a Young Adult story alongside their other Super Manga Blast titles and such.

[corp20]

I don't believe that Shadow Star is heavily edited. Only a few Graphic Scenes. Well thats what I know.

[marin]

It's not heavily edited yet

[corp20]

Originally Posted by marin

It's not heavily edited yet

What a pessimist...
Accentuate the positive.

[CodeWordChobits]

Wow I'm really glad to see all the replies to my origional speculations outloud. But I think that we have gotten off topic.... I know that it being edited or watered down is a big concern because the appeal of this anime/manga is it's punch you in the gut aproach to things that we would rather not have to deal with in real life. We need to get back to more speculation on some of the lesser known aspects of it, hehe. Has anyone thought about my earlier idea that

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maybe Akira went through the same kind of harassment that Hiro is going through at the end? ie. test tube rape? Perhaps she had the same kind of experience (with the older brother of the girl accosting Hiro?) but they went through with the whole thing. That may even be why he admonishes her not to go through with kicking her... All of Akira's problems seem to be with her stomache area... (this goes along well with the pregnancy idea too)

I know it may be a little too much thinking but it makes for an interesting association back to some of the other chars. Let me know what you think of this one. Also, if there is anything that you are not sure about or are wondering what other people think when they see those same images you are looking at post it here... I love this series and I want to discuss it more with fans. So speculate away folks

[LordBrian]

Originally Posted by corp20

What a pessimist...
Accentuate the positive.

The positive would be easier to accentuate if we didn't know what was coming, and how utterly graphic it truly is. It will be heavily edited, in certain scenes. We know this because of how these scenes were handled in other countries, where the initial volume in question (6) was already released -- edited. And since we're talking about the American release, it stands to figure that the same thing will happen...because after all, America is the land of censorship where the highest priority is "thinking of the children."