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Old 2008-09-04, 08:23   Link #81
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High: Fine timing to prevent reverse scene bleeds, on-screen signs are frame timed exactly, delay timing i.e. Lunar-style

Yay, I'm a high-skilled timer ^_^ (not that I do sign timing, typesetter usually does that).

P.S. delay timing = alpha timing
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Old 2008-09-04, 09:20   Link #82
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Yay, I'm a high-skilled timer ^_^ (not that I do sign timing, typesetter usually does that).

P.S. delay timing = alpha timing
I don't like that terminology since it doesn't really use any alpha blending: It's always 100% or 0%

Plus "alpha" timing seems to imply that it's cooler than just "timing" which is a matter of opinion.
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Old 2008-09-04, 09:30   Link #83
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I don't like that terminology since it doesn't really use any alpha blending: It's always 100% or 0%

Plus "alpha" timing seems to imply that it's cooler than just "timing" which is a matter of opinion.
I was always kinda partial to the term I first heard it coined as back in 05, "Karaoke Dialogue"
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Old 2008-09-04, 10:04   Link #84
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Alpha timing = uses alpha tags to force-delay parts of a sub. I think the terminology is pretty apt, personally.

And wouldn't karaoke dialogue involve some changing of colour and/or bouncing letters?
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Old 2008-09-04, 10:08   Link #85
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Na, refered to how plain {\k} mode worked. that other stuff isn't really kara imo. It is more text effects.
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Old 2008-09-04, 10:21   Link #86
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Na, refered to how plain {\k} mode worked. that other stuff isn't really kara imo. It is more text effects.

I'm no expert here, but doesn't {\k} mode just change colours - it doesn't use disappearing text unless you stick alpha tags in it somewhere, right?

On another note: I hate disappearing karas - what's the point of them? They're there so you can read the romanizations... but if they disappear when said, then why have them? Seems silly.
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Old 2008-09-04, 10:34   Link #87
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in the style itself you can set alpha and it doesn't switch color, it switches field from secondary to primary. So if those 2 colors are set the same no color change.
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Old 2008-09-05, 09:59   Link #88
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Or you could use \ko and have the secondary color as fully transparent.

Wait, this is actually pretty intelligent. Has anyone done this before?
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Old 2008-09-05, 11:06   Link #89
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Has anyone done this before?
Yes, it's been done.
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Old 2008-09-05, 22:44   Link #90
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Yes, it's been done.
indeed it has. We figured it out about 5 min after seeing the \alpha timing the first time. We as in typesetters at A-E. I'm sure it was the same for near all the veteran typesetters at the time. The only issue with that method is you have to \pos into position since it is overlapping 2 diff subs and if you have a collision at that point you have to manually set that one to a diff \pos. Also you cannot use shadow at all unless you create a 3rd line to use as the shadow only. so the \alpha method is best in the end. But, it still reminds me of karaoke the way it works.
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Old 2008-09-07, 07:11   Link #91
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