Romance in Code Geass (Take 3)

[honeypie_0106]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

You mean the bit about knowing her Geass, and thus her true wish aka to be truely loved? Yes, definitely not romantic at all in a purely observational manner... <_<

He knows her true wish, but his statement doesn't imply that he loves her. Its not romantic at all.. Definitely.

People tend to read too much on what Lulu says, its kind of de javu all over again. For a week or so Shirley became Lulu's LI, and yet after her death Rolo still stands as a great big ally on his legendary BK - even after his confession.

[honeypie_0106]

Originally Posted by Var

The only moment that has ever exceeded this was between him and Shirley, when he managed to admit that he liked her and during her death. That was a moment that may very well have nuked both ships to hell, but you seem to be omitting that for some reason.

And this is the reason why I can't bear to watch the Shirley arc, my observative self may not like what it hears and sees.

The only saving grace I had for my ship is that there were no I LOVE YOU TOO words flying.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by honeypie_0106

He knows her true wish, but his statement doesn't imply that he loves her. Its not romantic at all.. Definitely.

People tend to read too much on what Lulu says, its kind of de javu all over again. For a week or so Shirley became Lulu's LI, and yet after her death Rolo still stands as a great big ally on his legendary BK - even after his confession.

Oh yes, and him screaming that he would make it come true, that he would make her smile carried no implications whatsoever >_>

And he kind of wants to kill Rolo so I don't see the how that statement stands up against what he says <_<

[Var]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Oh yes, and him screaming that he would make it come true, that he would make her smile carried no implications whatsoever >_>

And he kind of wants to kill Rolo so I don't see the how that statement stands up against what he says <_<

If we're going to say that's an implication then we must also take into account 'dying with a smile'. You can't pick and choose words as being important.

[Kovensky]

@Krizmon: No implications whatsoever. meh

@White Manju Bun: Is it really "Guildford"? Isn't it "Guilford"?

[honeypie_0106]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Oh yes, and him screaming that he would make it come true, that he would make her smile carried no implications whatsoever >_>

And he kind of wants to kill Rolo so I don't see the how that statement stands up against what he says <_<

Kind of no different from when he learned Rolo took Nunally's place.

Screaming he would make her smile is vastly different from screaming he would love her, or rather give her love.

Which, if the pairing is indeed implied, should have been atleast uttered.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by Var

If we're going to say that's an implication then we must also take into account 'dying with a smile'. You can't pick and choose words as being important.

I'm looking at the deeper meaning here Var, which I once again contest to mean a plead for her to live, both literally and figuratively.

Originally Posted by honeypie_0106

Kind of no different from when he learned Rolo took Nunally's place.

Screaming he would make her smile is vastly different from screaming he would love her, or rather give her love.

Which, if the pairing is indeed implied, should have been atleast uttered.

Uh, I think you have a misrepresentation of what the word implied means if you want him to state it outright >_>

[Eliarine]

...are you guys seriously trying to pretend there were no romantic feelings whatsoever in Lelouch's scream? If yes that's fine, I'll just start arguing that his screaming he'd get Kallen back didn't mean anything either.

[honeypie_0106]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Uh, I think you have a misrepresentation of what the word implied means if you want him to state it outright >_>

implied

–adjective involved, indicated, or suggested without being directly or explicitly stated; tacitly understood: an implied rebuke; an implied compliment.


Is there any more misrepresentation?

[honeypie_0106]

Originally Posted by Eliarine

...are you guys seriously trying to pretend there were no romantic feelings whatsoever in Lelouch's scream? If yes that's fine, I'll just start arguing that his screaming he'd get Kallen back didn't mean anything either.

Yes, and of course you don't have to agree.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by honeypie_0106

implied

–adjective involved, indicated, or suggested without being directly or explicitly stated; tacitly understood: an implied rebuke; an implied compliment.


Is there any more misrepresentation?

Well, if you're telling him to just say it outright then I don't believe that would technically fit the wording for implied as it is defined. In terms of tacitly understood, the only thing stopping that part is simply ones own interpretation which I believe was what happened in any case

[Strettger]

Lelouch x CC (or CChii, so cute <3 )
Other - Lelouch x Anya - Does this one realy need explaining?
Lloyd x Cecile - come on, look at how she looks at you, wake up man!

[Discerptor]

Lelouch x CC: CC is the only character in the eries that completely understands Lelouch and can see all sides of him. She is also the only one he doesn't even try to hide things from; rather, she has hoodwinked him a few times. She will inevitably regain her memories since it's Code Geass, and I think the complete CC with the complete Lelouch is the most sensible paring since they know each other so well. And this last episode he basically outright said he loved her by saying he'd make her smile, i.e. grant her wish to be loved. That said, I did think Shirley was the one Lelouch would finally wake up and see the cheistry with at the end of the series... but we know how that went. >_>

Kanon X Nina: They're both weird and subordinates of Schneizel, I suppose.

Lloyd x Cecile: Need I even say anything here? The look on Cecile's face when Lloyd was laughing about his ex-fiancée says everything.

Suzaku stays alone: What Suzaku had with Euphy was beautiful and touching. It can't be replicated. That's part of what makes his character so sad right now.

Zero x Kaguya: I just find Kaguya very amusing. And it doesn't seem like CC would mind sharing Zero too much, given that conversation about Zero's "manly needs." XD

Other: Schneizel x Kanon: This was hilarious when Kanon first outright said it. And I'm sure Kanon's probably into Nina as well despite this. In fact, I bet that Schneizel throws some wild after-parties for military victories. Add SchneizelXKanonXNina to the list.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Eliarine

...are you guys seriously trying to pretend there were no romantic feelings whatsoever in Lelouch's scream? If yes that's fine, I'll just start arguing that his screaming he'd get Kallen back didn't mean anything either.

Not at all, at least not for me, the point that I am trying to make is that this event is no better than the Episode 10-11 equivalent for Kallen. Yet, it is being made out to be some grandiose moment that somehow trumps the other ones. The only one that trumped anything was the Shirley moment, for obvious reasons which I don't care to repeat for the nteenth time.

[White Manju Bun]

Originally Posted by Kovensky

@White Manju Bun: Is it really "Guildford"? Isn't it "Guilford"?

Fixed.

To everyone else, remember to be civil while posting.

[Tokkan]

Lelouch has had several moments that imply he has romantic feelings for Kallen, Shirley and C.C.. All at once. He starts bringing them up as his losses in the extended preview for 16.

Edit: The point of this post is to say that Lelouch is in no way sure about any of his feelings. He simply does not fully comprehend the concept of romantic love.

[Eliarine]

Originally Posted by Var

Not at all, at least not for me, the point that I am trying to make is that this event is no better than the Episode 10-11 equivalent for Kallen. Yet, it is being made out to be some grandiose moment that somehow trumps the other ones. The only one that trumped anything was the Shirley moment, for obvious reasons which I don't care to repeat for the nteenth time.

That just goes to show, again, that we all see things like we want to see them. I personally saw something "grandiose" in this interaction compared to his promise to Kallen, though of course nothing tops Shirley's death scene for now.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Eliarine

That just goes to show, again, that we all see things like we want to see them. I personally saw something "grandiose" in this interaction compared to his promise to Kallen, though of course nothing tops Shirley's death scene for now.

And that is why arguments start, so what exactly was the point of your original statement if all it boils down to is that we all have personal opinions? If one opinion is to be respected, then another equally possible opinion is too be at the very least humored. If one sees this as a grandiose moment that surpasses Kallen's, fine, but then if someone else sees this as a less than Kallen's, should also be fine.

And as for Krimzon, you really need to stop picking the lines that suit you best while ignoring the ones that don't...

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by Var

And as for Krimzon, you really need to stop picking the lines that suit you best while ignoring the ones that don't...

I picked the same line as you did Var, I just came up with a different interpretation

[Var]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

I picked the same line as you did Var, I just came up with a different interpretation

I don't recall wording an interpretation, just a possibility for what the words used may mean. As I said, words aren't randomly chosen.