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Old 2009-04-18, 00:34   Link #241
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My guess is she'll try to keep her problems to herself but her Mom will get in touch with Mashiro somehow and try to talk him into taking Miho out on a date to help both of them out.
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Old 2009-04-18, 06:36   Link #242
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I'm just happy that Miho is FINALLY starting to get some character development. Up 'till this point, she's just been horribly boring.
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Old 2009-04-18, 15:47   Link #243
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haha, yeah the mom is godly hot.

Thinking that somehow everyone will 'pull through' or atleast learn something. MihoxMashiro is watching a car doing donuts in a parking lot til it runs out of gas.
wow that really summed it up, I wonder if bakuman will take a look at the underworld of seiyu's and va's, u know the prostitution rings and what not... that would actually be quite funny.
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Old 2009-04-18, 17:13   Link #244
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wow that really summed it up, I wonder if bakuman will take a look at the underworld of seiyu's and va's, u know the prostitution rings and what not... that would actually be quite funny.
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Old 2009-04-18, 18:34   Link #245
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i think he is refering to the casting couch.

it would be interesting to see how far into the world of AV VA's bakuman is willing to go. So far he has manage to put the behind the scene of the manga industry in a favorable light but if he does anything serious with the Seiyu, it won't be pretty.
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Old 2009-04-18, 18:42   Link #246
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Articles are up on Sankaku Complex on such issues.
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Old 2009-04-18, 18:47   Link #247
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Articles are up on Sankaku Complex on such issues.
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Old 2009-04-18, 19:45   Link #248
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theres gobs of them, i'll dig some up in a sec, but yea ever since I started frequenting that site, its been a wide eyed view of all things entertainment.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/0...ork-part-time/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/0...ed-at-brothel/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...inako-komukai/

there have been more but there is no search function and sifting threw 300+ articles on the past 3 months isn't what i call fun.
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Old 2009-04-18, 19:57   Link #249
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theres gobs of them, i'll dig some up in a sec, but yea ever since I started frequenting that site, its been a wide eyed view of all things entertainment.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/0...ork-part-time/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/0...ed-at-brothel/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...inako-komukai/

there have been more but there is no search function and sifting threw 300+ articles on the past 3 months isn't what i call fun.

that sort of thing has been around for a long time. The casting couch is a time honor tradition in the entertainment business. Although the Korean one does seem much more severe.
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Old 2009-04-18, 19:58   Link #250
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Thanks Nosauz I just tried searching through Sankaku Complex As well.
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Old 2009-04-18, 20:05   Link #251
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yea I'm just saying on the outside, the seiyuu model of business seems great and fantastic, but in reality its not so glamorous, REC touches on this and I just thought that it would be interesting for the mangaka to take on this issue, because so far the stuff they've been writing about jump seems pretty realistic, but then again, jumps is running it, and so there must be some censorship. Yes I do know casting couch is a staple of entertainment industry, but it still doesn't make it right. Its pretty much the degradation of female empowerment that women like susan b anthony have fought for, but then again thats off topic.
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Old 2009-04-18, 20:08   Link #252
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i am wondering how much the family is being offer and how many threats they receive to keep the suicide note form ever seeing the light of day.
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Old 2009-04-18, 23:55   Link #253
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The thought of Azuki being involved in the dirty idol business is *not* pleasant. Yet I saw the hints for such degradation as an issue as early as when she stepped into the business. The whole "choosing pretty girls" just screamed future trouble.

It's like "serious" lolicon. Not cool.

And yeah, though I appreciate character development, the Mashiro x Miho "romance" is just frustrating. On one hand we have this cool shit where mangaka are shonen heroes (don't they look like their creations?) and the new generation fights towards the top, on the other hand we have this hint of sleaziness, potential exploitation, and helplessness on the girl's side. Eh.

Off topic: I've never been a fan of the gravure idol business...or any idol business for that matter. It always feel like an industry that takes in unsuspecting young girls, exploit them, fuck them, get rich off of them, oppress them, then spit them out when they can't take it any more. How can I even hope to be aroused with this thought hanging in the background? They are modern day slavery combined with commercialism at its worst.
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Old 2009-04-19, 00:08   Link #254
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Old 2009-04-19, 09:41   Link #255
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Oh my, this topic has gone into very depressing topic. I heard the story of Jang Ja-yeon but never knew she had to go through all that. Is there any attempt of reform in any country of these acts? Bakuman might well as show some of the reality of becoming a voice actor to wake few people up.
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Old 2009-04-19, 10:00   Link #256
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I dont think bakuman goes that far tho. Its an SJ title anyway.
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Old 2009-04-19, 12:06   Link #257
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well in this recent chapter this idea of casting couch is thrown out there, just saying they might elaborate on it, because as of now, mihoxmashiro is just a car spinning its wheels and not really going anywhere.
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Old 2009-04-19, 20:01   Link #258
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Just knowing whats happening to those idols makes me sick man.
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Old 2009-04-20, 11:56   Link #259
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I agree with KiNa that Bakuman wouldn't go into that much detail of the seiyuu career. Bakuman is publish Shonan Jump, a younger boys maginazine not a Seinan publish.

It is also kinda ironic that the H-Games are actually more truthful of the Idol/Entertainment industry then any other media availabel to fans.
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Old 2009-04-20, 18:35   Link #260
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well even if they only do what rec did it will be pretty damn awesome, because you know what rec is the bomb.
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