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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 25 Rating
Perfect 10 133 39.82%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 81 24.25%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 32 9.58%
7 out of 10 : Good 27 8.08%
6 out of 10 : Average 11 3.29%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 10 2.99%
4 out of 10 : Poor 4 1.20%
3 out of 10 : Bad 3 0.90%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.30%
1 out of 10 : Painful 32 9.58%
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Old 2008-09-27, 10:28   Link #761
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Damn Kawamori he choose the "easy" way out, we have a "tie" atm... hopefully the upcoming Movie will resolve this...


Anyway i give it a "10" because even when there was no conclusion but the animatons + music are amazing.

p.s : it is really kind of unfair that some of us could understand jap and watch the raws first then make a "700" Post diskussion already, while the rest have to wait for the sub, all diskussion/arguments are already maded...

gogo Warshippers there is still time to the Movie whose side will have the better arguments till then...

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Old 2008-09-27, 10:50   Link #762
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Worst ending ever.
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Old 2008-09-27, 11:49   Link #763
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mousaka already told most but there are far more hints set in the last episodes, that it is very sure who will make the race in the love triangle.

I watched from a neutral point of view in regards to the love triangle. but with every episode it has shown up that the triangle will end with alto x sheryl. When some will start comparing with macross series or with DYRL (what I did), then the more you will understand why alto x sheryl and not alto x ranka.

btw. regarding Bilrer and the picture of Minmay
Spoiler for Bilrer:
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Old 2008-09-27, 11:54   Link #764
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Pros:
- Some epic fights
- Nice to see those Macross Plus ghosts make a cameo
- Alto didn't give in to the women...girls aint nothin but trouble, he stayed true to the game, way to stay true to your real love -- the sky
- Alto is a pimp, he can wear an earing and look all girly but still have the most game in the galaxy

Cons:
- Too rushed...felt like it should have been split over 2-3 episodes
- Didn't care too much about the lame little go team 3 person hand shake one pilot two wings whatever nonsense
- Aside from the non resolved triangle, everything else was 100% predictable.

5/10 - Below Average
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Old 2008-09-27, 11:57   Link #765
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...Sheryl basically helped to murder the homeland she supposedly cared so much about.
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Old 2008-09-27, 12:01   Link #766
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Because he's not done telling stories in the Frontier setting, whereas the story was finished in the others?
Oh, come on! Poor excuse! I thought you'd add something more elaborated than this. Honestly, who needs a balanced love triangle to set up the next chapter, especially when it's anticlimatic to everything that was built for a while already?

If some people are having hopes for the movie, my only wish would be for Alto to be as cutting as Hikaru was in DYRL when he ditched Minmay... something which could have been cleared by now.
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Old 2008-09-27, 12:04   Link #767
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btw. regarding Bilrer and the picture of Minmay
Spoiler for Bilrer:
I'd put my money on Bilrer being Britai as well. I wouldn't be surprised and it would be welcome to see him again after all the years.
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Old 2008-09-27, 12:16   Link #768
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I just saw it...wow...it was kinda bad.
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Old 2008-09-27, 12:20   Link #769
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A grade Mecha Porn and some fantastic music...What a great way to end the series.

I don't even really mind that they ended with the Triangle unresolved...Bring on the threesome I say...
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Old 2008-09-27, 12:39   Link #770
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I'd put my money on Bilrer being Britai as well. I wouldn't be surprised and it would be welcome to see him again after all the years.
I highly doubt he is Britai.

If he was Britai, did you think he'd let Leon do what he wants? He is the supreme commander of the UN SPACY NAVY for crying out loud.

Never mind that they don't have the right VA.

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Old 2008-09-27, 13:59   Link #771
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Just watched the sub, is it me or did they never show the Macross Battle Frontier transform? How lame, we waited a whole series and they didnt even show the transform sequence.

Also, never showed Frontier fire its main gun. I guess moneyshots are saved for the movie.

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Old 2008-09-27, 14:01   Link #772
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...Sheryl basically helped to murder the homeland she supposedly cared so much about.
If you mean the Macross Galaxy, not really. She may have cared about them due to the fact that they were almost eliminated by the vajra, but in fact she hated that ship where she had bad memories of.

@finalnight
Battle frontier transformed in Episode 24.
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Old 2008-09-27, 14:25   Link #773
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If you mean the Macross Galaxy, not really. She may have cared about them due to the fact that they were almost eliminated by the vajra, but in fact she hated that ship where she had bad memories of.

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Battle frontier transformed in Episode 24.
They didn't show it, I checked 24. They showed Frontier finishing its transform in the radar room at the start of 25.
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Old 2008-09-27, 14:36   Link #774
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Hmmmm....upon watching it again I did end up enjoying it more. I still think the series needed an episode or 2 more, but it didn't feel quite so rushed the second time around. I'm still disappointed that we didn't get to see Battle Galaxy really fight though...
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...Sheryl basically helped to murder the homeland she supposedly cared so much about.
I think Battle Galaxy is just the warship/carrier for the Macross Galaxy group. Wouldnt be surprised if it's just an empty ship controlled by the collective conciousness of Grace and her cohort, heck even her fighters are the unmanned Ghost.
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The Battle Galaxy is a tow ship, just as the Battle Frontier tows Island I. Its not the colony Galaxy.

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Old 2008-09-27, 15:11   Link #777
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The Battle Galaxy is a tow ship, just as the Battle Frontier tows Island I. Its not the colony Galaxy.

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Yep, pretty much a tug. I LOVED the series overall and really enjoyed the ride, but in the end I was disappointed Kawamori didn't do more with it... Battle Galaxy ended up like a lame gun barge, just standing here like so much cannon fodder. It didn't even serve Grace well as a barrier to keep her enemy at bay long enough to put her plan into proper motion... what a sad waste.

The mysterious shots of Galaxy in the beginning of the series promised much intrigue with its interesting untransformed form, and the comments about the populace being highly advanced and implanted... it really set up something that to my mind could have supported a whole new season with Frontier battling the remainders of the Galaxy colony. A whole allegory to the Cold war could have been played out as Galaxy colony might have taken over one side of the planet and Frontier the other, with the Vajra forces randomly attacking both.

But no payoff at all... unless something really extraordinary happens in the movie, then the whole M Galaxy subplot was as big of a waste as including Blirer in the show with zero raison d' etre.
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Old 2008-09-27, 15:22   Link #778
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Meh. It felt rushed however since they made this one episode the length of two episodes, I guess I'll let it slide. I'm not exactly a hardcore Macross anime fan but I enjoy this latest Macross anime. Still, I got a lot of questions regarding a lot of the scenes in this episode. Questions regarding Biler, Dr. Mao, Ranka's Mom, the relationship between proto-culturer and the vajira.
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Old 2008-09-27, 15:27   Link #779
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Yep, pretty much a tug. I LOVED the series overall and really enjoyed the ride, but in the end I was disappointed Kawamori didn't do more with it... Battle Galaxy ended up like a lame gun barge, just standing here like so much cannon fodder. It didn't even serve Grace well as a barrier to keep her enemy at bay long enough to put her plan into proper motion... what a sad waste.

The mysterious shots of Galaxy in the beginning of the series promised much intrigue with its interesting untransformed form, and the comments about the populace being highly advanced and implanted... it really set up something that to my mind could have supported a whole new season with Frontier battling the remainders of the Galaxy colony. A whole allegory to the Cold war could have been played out as Galaxy colony might have taken over one side of the planet and Frontier the other, with the Vajra forces randomly attacking both.

But no payoff at all... unless something really extraordinary happens in the movie, then the whole M Galaxy subplot was as big of a waste as including Blirer in the show with zero raison d' etre.
Basically sums up how I feel. The Galaxy plotline was handled very badly. It's a shame because it had the potential to be so awesome.
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Old 2008-09-27, 15:34   Link #780
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A grade Mecha Porn and some fantastic music...What a great way to end the series.

I don't even really mind that they ended with the Triangle unresolved...Bring on the threesome I say...
Agreed. It's the only way to resolve this love triangle. THREESOMES FTW!
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