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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 25 Rating
Perfect 10 133 39.82%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 81 24.25%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 32 9.58%
7 out of 10 : Good 27 8.08%
6 out of 10 : Average 11 3.29%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 10 2.99%
4 out of 10 : Poor 4 1.20%
3 out of 10 : Bad 3 0.90%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.30%
1 out of 10 : Painful 32 9.58%
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Old 2008-09-27, 21:44   Link #801
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Won't be licensed unless Satelight and Big West sue Harmony Gold over distribution. Would be a distinct possibility, but the music is licensed by yet another corporation. The problem with Macross is that its always multi-licensed, more complicated than most anime out there. Then again, its music also goes on charts, which is what other anime can seldom accomplish.

On the other hand, there will be a movie.

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I think the music problem only happened with M7. I don't believe that they used any of the songs from M7 so that shouldn't be a problem
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Old 2008-09-27, 21:52   Link #802
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I think the music problem only happened with M7. I don't believe that they used any of the songs from M7 so that shouldn't be a problem
They'll need to mute the background audio tracks used when Ozma was playing Fire Bomber while in his car/room then.
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Old 2008-09-27, 21:59   Link #803
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Macross: Do you remember love?

Oh yes, yes I do. Still one of the greatest moments in anime ever in my opinion. But it's also kind of funny how this war-like, gigantic race got beaten by a pop singer in a cute outfit. Well, that's Macross for you.


But didn't ADV put out a new release of the non-Robotech Macross series? I would like to think that a Macross Frontier US release has a good chance of happening. Considering all the issues involved, it would probably take some time though, even if it were possible.

Here's a good place to start reading up on the legalities:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=164

It's a very sticky situation trying to obtain any Macross Series after the original. The very last Macross series to see US domestic waters is Macross Plus (and that was Manga Entertainment).

Companies since that series, have been trying to bring over other Macross incarnations but have failed.


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Old 2008-09-27, 22:05   Link #804
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I think the music problem only happened with M7. I don't believe that they used any of the songs from M7 so that shouldn't be a problem
Unfortunately, songs in Macross Frontier are licensed separately as well. There is that issue.

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Old 2008-09-27, 22:08   Link #805
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Woot slowpoke to the party...

LOL.... and when i saw the sheryl social group's message (/rage) I assumed that it was ranka end. Who would have thought XD
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:11   Link #806
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The only reason I give this episode a nine out of ten instead of a perfect ten: the goddamn love triangle ends on an ambiguous note!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KAWAMORI YOU TROLL!!!!

SEQUEL NAO!
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:12   Link #807
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But didn't ADV put out a new release of the non-Robotech Macross series? I would like to think that a Macross Frontier US release has a good chance of happening. Considering all the issues involved, it would probably take some time though, even if it were possible.
Because the distribution rights of SDFM (and SDFM only) went to Tatsunoko and by extension Harmony Gold. The ADV release was through that sublicense.

I don't quite get the current "no US anime company has the resources to license Macross" reason. Why the special case for Macross, compared to similar flagship titles with lots of music like Gundam?

Also couldn't Bandai Visual distribute it themselves if they wanted?
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:13   Link #808
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I don't quite get the current "no US anime company has the resources to license Macross" reason. Why the special case for Macross, compared to similar flagship titles with lots of music like Gundam?
Gundam's music go through a single license. Macross' does not. Mac 7 and this recent one all went through several channels. Macross Frontier's music I believe, belongs to JVC, who supported in the production.

Its not difficult to tell, Gundam's music (such as those in SEED or 00) is just shabby compared to Mac F. In Gundam, you get a tiny, one-room studio. In Macross Frontier (and Plus), you get a fucking orchestra.

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Old 2008-09-27, 22:16   Link #809
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def my favorite series this season. not a bad way to end it
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:21   Link #810
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I don't quite get the current "no US anime company has the resources to license Macross" reason. Why the special case for Macross, compared to similar flagship titles with lots of music like Gundam?

Also couldn't Bandai Visual distribute it themselves if they wanted?
Not to mention that Harmony Gold has already thrown down the gauntlet with the commitment to bring litigation to any US company who dares 'copy' their Robotech label. The legal costs won't be cheap if that happens.

And what Tak said. Gundam doesn't have songstresses saving the world you know.
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:26   Link #811
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Not to mention that Harmony Gold has already thrown down the gauntlet with the commitment to bring litigation to any US company who dares 'copy' their Robotech label. The legal costs won't be cheap if that happens.
Judging by the decision made in 2004, HG and Tatsu both owns the distribution, or economic rights to the original SDFM. However, it has nothing on its character designs, mechanics and other associated media. The rights are concerned with that sole series alone. Thus Tatsu would not be able to interfere with other Macross productions and associated merchandise.

If Big West and associates decide to release the series statewide, they can easily bring the 2004 court decision to HG's attention. As of now, HG does not interfere with selling Macross toys stateside, but a separate Mac series aside from II and PLUS have yet to arrive.

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Old 2008-09-27, 22:51   Link #812
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OMG. I loved this episode, the only thing I hated is how he didn't use between sheryl or ranka, harem end ftw. Anyways iunno I have to admit this series was amazing and having an end like that didn't make it bad or anything what so ever, excellent series, probably the best action anime I've seen for ages. 10 out of 10
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Old 2008-09-27, 22:57   Link #813
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OMG. I loved this episode, the only thing I hated is how he didn't use between sheryl or ranka, harem end ftw. Anyways iunno I have to admit this series was amazing and having an end like that didn't make it bad or anything what so ever, excellent series, probably the best action anime I've seen for ages. 10 out of 10
Is that CC on the signature there? Damn, she is freaky with lipsticks on.

Well, I am bracing myself for an epic end that is very dissimilar to that of Frontier's end. After the train wreck starting for Episode 19, I can only wait to see what they are going to pull next...

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Old 2008-09-28, 00:26   Link #814
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Definitely a feel good episode. Though I wanted some closure on the whole love triangle, I guess we can't have everything the way we want it. I do have one question for the Macross veterans. Though I can sort of see why Macross City (Earth) was shown but why was Macross 11 shown? I definitely am missing something.
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Old 2008-09-28, 00:30   Link #815
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Definitely a feel good episode. Though I wanted some closure on the whole love triangle, I guess we can't have everything the way we want it. I do have one question for the Macross veterans. Though I can sort of see why Macross City (Earth) was shown but why was Macross 11 shown? I definitely am missing something.
Macross 11 is exploring the rim of the Galaxy. Frontier was near the center. It just goes to show how far reaching and instantaneous the reach of the Vajra could have been.
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Old 2008-09-28, 00:53   Link #816
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ahhh I see. That's cool. Rim of the galaxy huh...wonder how many years it will take for us to reach that sky.
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ahhh I see. That's cool. Rim of the galaxy huh...wonder how many years it will take for us to reach that sky.
That is assuming if we don't blow ourselves away first.
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Old 2008-09-28, 02:17   Link #818
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Hikaru salutes Misa on the Macross Bridge in battroid mode just before sortieing on the final bombing run inside the Gorg Boddole Zer Fortress while Minmay sings.
Its was more like an assasination though.

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I'm thinking that's not Bretai.

But anyways....someone posted over at MW that summed it up pretty best about what Mr. Bilrer symbolizes. That poster stated that Mr. Bilrer is actually the Macross fans, who have sought answers about Minmay's fate post SW1. Its like Shohi Kawamori, as a way of acknowleding those fans is saying: "YES, guys I know you want to know what happened to her and Megaroad-1."
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Old 2008-09-28, 02:50   Link #819
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I'm thinking that's not Bretai.

But anyways....I posted over at MW summed it up pretty best about what Mr. Bilrer symbolizes. That poster stated that Mr. Bilrer is actually the Macross fans, who have sought answers about Minmay's fate post SW1. Its like Shohi Kawamori, as a way of acknowleding those fans is saying: "YES, guys I know you want to know what happened to her and Megaroad-1."
Pretty much.

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I don't get it. Grace sais this is the ultimate in human evolution. Are we to understand that the ultimate in human evolution, according to Grace, is for Grace herself to control the galaxy while wiping out the rest of human kind?

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