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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Rating
Perfect 10 789 63.68%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 163 13.16%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 95 7.67%
7 out of 10 : Good 67 5.41%
6 out of 10 : Average 17 1.37%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 18 1.45%
4 out of 10 : Poor 7 0.56%
3 out of 10 : Bad 7 0.56%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 4 0.32%
1 out of 10 : Painful 72 5.81%
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:44   Link #421
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THE RAW IS OUT! He's alive...

They close up on the drivers hat and side as the camera scrolls up to where CC is lying down. She isn't talking to someone in her head... she is talking to the DRIVER! That shot and scene say it all!

There is very little ambiguity about it.

LELOUCH IS ALIVE! CONFIRMED!

CC also seems to be wearing some sort of German style dress. They may be in Europe. I wonder what's up. Hmmm...
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:44   Link #422
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crying doesn't mean much... it can juz mean sayonara to Lelouch vie Brittania and that's it. - for all the dramatic effect.

because, he can't or won't be showing up as this identity anymore...

since they are going to have another movie...and randomly throw us this cart driver... and C.C is still alive - i am sure that there is still plenty of room for the plot n theories.
What source did this come from?
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:45   Link #423
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Yes, Ja-Y-Ce, because gutting your best friend doesn't make you cry whilst getting 'rid' of an identity does.
haha opps, to me, Geass can be so cynical with all the killings and stuff..thus, i have forgotten that gutting a fren can be so painful...


ah! the reality.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:45   Link #424
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The ending was kinda bad didn't like it.
else the anime was great.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:45   Link #425
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i think that was lelouch in the end

interesting points
  • nunnaly got to know lelouch's plan by just touching him, isn't that a trait of the code, just like C.C? She probably transfered her code to him before the ceremony
  • C.C is talking to him in the cart, she said 'ne, lelouch?' she also looked happy and is smiling, i don't think she'd be cheerful with a dead lelouch

in short, i think an immortal lelouch now travels the world together with a now mortal C.C.

happy end, CluClu ftw!
Ya, I think C.C. transfered her Code to Lelouch.

Suzaku wouldn't even know that Lelouch is still alive, since he doesn't know about C.C.'s the geass immortality curse.

The only person in the world whom would probably know the truth is Orange, and he'll take the truth to his grave.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:45   Link #426
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You guys are all thinking about this too deeply.
Forget how the Geass and the Code works.
Logically, Lelouch can't escape.
If the Code did work, he doesn't have control over it. He would be brought back to life instantly. Where's he gonna go? The whole place was surrounded by people who hated him.
He is faking his death. Suzaku is there, Nunnally is there. Who the hell else does he need to fake his death?
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:46   Link #427
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Hey it wasn't that bad
You prefer a nice boat ending
Yeah, you could say that
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:46   Link #428
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THE RAW IS OUT! He's alive...

They close up on the drivers hat as the camera scrolls up to where CC is lying down. She isn't talking to someone in her head... she is talking to the DRIVER!

There is very little ambiguity about it.

LELOUCH IS ALIVE! CONFIRMED!

CC also seems to be wearing some sort of German style dress. They may be in Europe. I wonder what's up. Hmmm...

Than its a plot hole

No one would be stupid enough to have C.C just take Lelouch's body away.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:46   Link #429
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Okay, just a few extra things that need to be said:

Spoiler for Final thoughts "R2":


By the way, check the pictures in Kallen's wall. There is a small reference to Lost Colors over there. Hint: fireworks.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:47   Link #430
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Than its a plot hole

No one would be stupid enough to have C.C just take Lelouch's body away.
Do you even know what an actual plot hole is?
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:48   Link #431
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Here's the proof on Lelouch's survival

Lelouch is still alive. He has Charles' Code which he received when the man choked him. The Code activates first when you die, which happened. And before you say can't have Code and a Geass at the same time, the Code wasn't the one C.C. had, meaning that Lelouch was the first one to achieve Code Geass. He's now travelling the country-side with C.C., living as immortals.

That's the only reason for C.C. to be suddenly so happy again. Also, before you say that C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there.

Also, the screenie of the cart driver who is masking his features competely supports this.

What further supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched her, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code and is alive.

C.C.'s words in the end translated: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch"

So HE LIVES
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:48   Link #432
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i think that was lelouch in the end

interesting points
  • nunnaly got to know lelouch's plan by just touching him, isn't that a trait of the code, just like C.C? She probably transfered her code to him before the ceremony
  • C.C is talking to him in the cart, she said 'ne, lelouch?' she also looked happy and is smiling, i don't think she'd be cheerful with a dead lelouch

in short, i think an immortal lelouch now travels the world together with a now mortal C.C.

happy end, CluClu ftw!
Yip! I think so too.

The lines she said is translated in the c.c.'s thread
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:48   Link #433
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If the Code did work, he doesn't have control over it. He would be brought back to life instantly. Where's he gonna go? The whole place was surrounded by people who hated him.
Well he can fake his death just like Charles did after he was shot by Lelouch. After all, we don't know who get rid of Lulu's body. As far as we can imagine, we can say Llyod (his ally) or even Suzero is the one who is responsible to dispose his body
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:48   Link #434
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WATCH THE FINAL SCENE!

Why else would we get a close up of only the drivers side and hat without revealing the face and then CC talking and ending with "Lelouch."

She is talking to the driver. Her head is only a few feet away from his!

Watch the scene first... Lelouch lives!
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:49   Link #435
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All else, aside, I think TamakixAyame is confirmed this episode- simply because she called him 'senpai'.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:50   Link #436
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Do you even know what an actual plot hole is?
Well to be more precise its like a plot hole.

It basically must have the cast act like idiots (no one notices the body) to have the plot make sense.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:50   Link #437
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Eh, there is going to be a movie?
sheesh, sorry, wrong information. thought that i saw one posting floating around... regarding the movie... but it was taken off now...

my bad.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:50   Link #438
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WATCH THE FINAL SCENE!

Why else would we get a close of only the drivers side and hat without revealing the face and then CC talking and ending with "Lelouch."

She is talking to the driver. Her head is only a few feet away from his!

Watch the scene first...
Hes not faking you think suzaku would cry if this was all a play?
not really thats why the ending was pretty bad didn't like it.
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Old 2008-09-28, 04:50   Link #439
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Okay, just a few extra things that need to be said:

Spoiler for Final thoughts "R2":
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Yeah, I would kinda feel insulted if he ended up alive. It would be pretty much the same Mwu/Guilford slap in the face that I already had to endure once this season.
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Than its a plot hole

No one would be stupid enough to have C.C just take Lelouch's body away.
Exactly my point.
Did Suzaku have any lines (of thoughts) when he was killing Lelouch?
That would explain some of the situation. He was crying when he stabbed him... If Suzaku knew he would be still alive, he wouldn't be crying (neither would C.C. at the altar for that matter)
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