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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10 218 53.43%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 107 26.23%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 43 10.54%
7 out of 10 : Good 22 5.39%
6 out of 10 : Average 10 2.45%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 0.49%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.25%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 5 1.23%
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Old 2008-10-11, 07:53   Link #1101
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If there's any serious romance going on in Gundam 00, it's going to be Graham x Setsuna with Ali thrown in for a love triangle. Otherwise, I think it's just going to be focused mostly on politics, idealogy and mechas
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Old 2008-10-11, 07:59   Link #1102
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I think gundam will probably go along with the already established sestuna x marina & saji x louise relationships. The show doesn't have alot of excess time outside of the main plot, so I don't think they're really free to give us pointless mindscrews in that direction.
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Old 2008-10-11, 08:17   Link #1103
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I think gundam will probably go along with the already established sestuna x marina & saji x louise relationships. The show doesn't have alot of excess time outside of the main plot, so I don't think they're really free to give us pointless mindscrews in that direction.
I hope your wrong. Saji x Louise is acceptable but no Marina x Setsuna please. I just can't bring me self to like that piring
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Old 2008-10-11, 08:25   Link #1104
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I think gundam will probably go along with the already established sestuna x marina & saji x louise relationships. The show doesn't have alot of excess time outside of the main plot, so I don't think they're really free to give us pointless mindscrews in that direction.

That's pretty sad. A competent writer and director should be able to juggle all three (war, politics, love) without a problem.
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Old 2008-10-11, 10:35   Link #1105
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That's pretty sad. A competent writer and director should be able to juggle all three (war, politics, love) without a problem.
I can't wait to see who they kill this season!
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Old 2008-10-11, 10:40   Link #1106
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That's pretty sad. A competent writer and director should be able to juggle all three (war, politics, love) without a problem.
Gundam 00's focus isn't romance though, if season 1 proves: as with all Gundams, the focus is war, and its effects, not how everyone tries to hook up with another.

A competent writer will write what he/she knows they do best, not try to write all in one package just to pander to fans.
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Old 2008-10-11, 11:36   Link #1107
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Gundam 00's focus isn't romance though, if season 1 proves: as with all Gundams, the focus is war, and its effects, not how everyone tries to hook up with another.

A competent writer will write what he/she knows they do best, not try to write all in one package just to pander to fans.



Then what' the point of the whole sub plot with Setsuna and Marina, Felt X Neil, Saji X Louise, Lichy x Christina, Billy X Noriega? There's a assload of pretty bishounen and big-breasted bishoujo and you're telling me this show is not about romance?

If the only point these points serve is tease the audience, then the director and writer have no idea what they're doing. They're no better than the loads of harem anime that get nowhere.

It's a waste to insinuate such things and go completely nowhere with them. It's a complete waste of time to go off on all these Marina X Setsuna, Felt X Neil, Saji X Louise writing if you don't expect to do anything with them. It's really juvenile storytelling.
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Old 2008-10-11, 11:42   Link #1108
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No, it's not. It's called background flavour. It doesn't have to be the main focus, or even a plot point.
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Old 2008-10-11, 11:49   Link #1109
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Why are you guys even looking for romance in a mecha show anyways? There are plenty other good romance focused shows this season.
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Old 2008-10-11, 11:57   Link #1110
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Because this is mecha. Please show me other mecha shows that have a good focus of romance and yes... Of course there are a lot of show with romance but not with mecha.
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Old 2008-10-11, 12:00   Link #1111
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Because this is mecha. Please show me other mecha shows that have a good focus of romance and yes... Of course there are a lot of show with romance but not with mecha.

Macross Plus was some really touching stuff with awesome mecha action. Seems to be that Gundam 00 is trying to pander to the Lowest Common Denominator across the broadest demographic. Hot Guys. Check!!! Hot Girls. Check!!! Mecha. Check!!! Romance subplots. Check!!! Political intrigue. Check!!! Angsty people with troubled pasts. Check!!!

Is Gundam 00 doomed to be yet another Jack Of All Trades, Master of None anime churned out every year? Something that isn't true art but meaningless titaliation.
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Old 2008-10-11, 12:06   Link #1112
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Because this is mecha. Please show me other mecha shows that have a good focus of romance and yes... Of course there are a lot of show with romance but not with mecha.
But then it would be like eating a eight course meal and trying to take on a whole cheese cake for dessert too.

(Are there anyone here who get turned off by romance in their mecha? I couldn't finish watching Macross Frontier because of it was really a romance story.)
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Old 2008-10-11, 12:16   Link #1113
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But then it would be like eating a eight course meal and trying to take on a whole cheese cake for dessert too.

(Are there anyone here who get turned off by romance in their mecha? I couldn't finish watching Macross Frontier because of it was really a romance story.)

I enjoyed the romance in Macross Frontier. I just hate it that they didn't resolve teh whole romance triangle. So Macross Frontier = Fail1!!

But I can understand. It's as if the people behind an anime can't decide what they want the anime to be. Mecha or Romance. It's really hard to accomplish both.

Too many anime these days have an identity crisis. Maybe it's the result of postmodernism and the need to include fanservice in every series?

Many anime in the 80s and 90s was more simplistic but much more focused and directed.
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Old 2008-10-11, 12:45   Link #1114
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There is hardly any fanservice in 00. All the romance shown is real life, instead of one guy surrounded by attractive girls but he hardly notices (Geass/Frontier).

And it isn't like those shows where their is a boy and a girl who hate each other and then become lovers or whatnot.

We get real relationships with Saji and Louise/ Billy and Sumeragi. The mentor/parent relationship with Soma and Sergei. I think 00 does exceptionally well on relationships.
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Old 2008-10-11, 12:58   Link #1115
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There is hardly any fanservice in 00. All the romance shown is real life, instead of one guy surrounded by attractive girls but he hardly notices (Geass/Frontier).
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Old 2008-10-11, 14:32   Link #1116
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Old 2008-10-11, 19:24   Link #1117
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Ep review: just like the first season, it's a clusterfuck of a bunch of action with very little meaning behind it while everyone asks "so leik wtf is going on lulz?"

As usual, Setsuna fucking sucks. He can only kick ass in a machine that's years ahead of the tech everyone else has.
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Old 2008-10-11, 20:14   Link #1118
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Ep review: just like the first season, it's a clusterfuck of a bunch of action with very little meaning behind it while everyone asks "so leik wtf is going on lulz?"

As usual, Setsuna fucking sucks. He can only kick ass in a machine that's years ahead of the tech everyone else has.
Fighting 2 VS 1 with one arm and a broken sword?
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Old 2008-10-11, 21:41   Link #1119
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As usual, Setsuna fucking sucks. He can only kick ass in a machine that's years ahead of the tech everyone else has.
By now Exia is five years behind. And it's not in it's top form any more.
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Old 2008-10-11, 22:43   Link #1120
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Fighting 2 VS 1 with one arm and a broken sword?
Allelujah did it with one arm and ONE LEG.

And vs. Da Bear and the loli no less!
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