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Old 2008-10-12, 14:11   Link #81
Exilon
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Oh, quite some good ones So it's okay to assume that Kinzo and Natsuhi are working togheter. Hum, we're slowly progressing. I'm not making any more theoires for now, but I'll just post the following requests.

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Old 2008-10-12, 14:28   Link #82
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Gleh... theories... theories...

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Wow, that's long enough. Of course, there are some inconsistencies, and stretches of logic, but for the most part, they can probably be replaced by other events that produce the same results. Of course, this isn't my 'ultimate theory', but just some stuff that 'could' happen. Gleh, I also have possible theories for the Second-Eighth Twillight, but I'll keep them till later. And yes, I should express my theories in point form, shouldn't I, or they'll probably get way too long.

Other then that, I have some recitals;

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Nowies, time to write out my theory for the other Twilights.
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:39   Link #83
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asashio, I have a reason to believe the first of your statements will be refused. Mainly because there are4 already soem things written in the text that were denied in red, as for example, in the first twilight, when the narrator says "that means, that the only possibility was locked inside the room, with all windows and doors locked!" (or something like that) but later on Nadeor recited something I asked:
- The windows of the living room can't be locked from outside.
- The windows of the living room were not locked when the hanged six were found.

so right there we've got an incosistency. Unless, of course, Nadeor did a mistake when translating, but I doubt it. xD
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:54   Link #84
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Huh... well, that's probably true, but here we are talking about events. For example, the narration may be taking a third-person-limited point of view, detailing, let's say Rudolf's point of view (Rudolf assumes that the windows are locked, thus it is said so in the story. However, if Rudolf witnesses, let's say, Kyrie being killed, the text will state it, whether Rudolf wants others to know, or not). However, the story could also be, let's say, Rosa recounting her experiences to a police force, in which case she could lie that she, say, was giving Maria cake in the main house, as opposed to preparing the First Twilight.

Or in other words, you're probably right, but there is nothing wrong with trying.
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Old 2008-10-12, 19:24   Link #85
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Quote:
The Frog inside the well is supposed to be happy
Since it knows nothing about the world outside of it

The Frog inside the well is supposed to be happy
Since no matter what happens outside, it's none of its concern

The Frog inside the well is supposed to be happy
Since it never knew what had happened outside the well...

---------Frederica Bernkastel
A little poem by our lady Bernkastel, this should help you to solve this mystery ^_^

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Well yeah I probably did make some mistakes, so if you find any incosistency, please do ask them in Blue Words, to separate from the black and red
I will then go double-check with the original text, after all the author did a pretty bad job to explain some important details such as windows and doors, so I only assumed that they weren't locked =_=|||

...Or Was I? =v=
Remember, things aren't always what they seems...
God I hate that stupid discovery show now! It's torturing my mind! =口= 囧!!!!!!!

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Jshcc, if you are reading this, I will have to leave Asashio's long theory for you to translate =v=

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Old 2008-10-12, 19:27   Link #86
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Here's another one which I enjoy by Bernkastel =v=
This one's just pure evil and justifies some pranks possible in the school

Quote:
Today a really nice thing happened to me
I found a pin inside the shoe I put earlier inside my locker

This meant, that among the 50 students inside my class
Someone liked and paid more attention to me out of all the rest

Overwhelmed by the happiness it gave me, I decide to share the love
So to return the favor, I placed a pin inside the shoe in every other's locker

-------------Frederica Bernkastel
This one cracked me up XD
It sounds so evil and probably is what happened to Ryukishi earlier in his life XD

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Oh yeah, just to make it fair, since there're only 7 days in which the game left:

For all the red statements I recited so far, although some may seem awkward and contradicts to the other, BUT, They can ALL be JUSTIFIED!

Any further I might spoil the entire thing, so yea, sorry ^_^
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:15   Link #87
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im giving a maria theory that will make me look stupid...

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i guess this theory is stupid but i have this feeling that maria is involved somehow...
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:30   Link #88
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Ignore the second poem please, you know it's just there for fun =_=|||
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:32   Link #89
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oh hahaha!!! got carried away with maria! but i got the gist of it right? or should i ask some recitals in red to indirectly answer my question?

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Old 2008-10-12, 22:45   Link #90
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hehehe.. i got another theory but i don't know how to prove them.
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still don't know "who did what and how" exactly. but im giving 70% in this theory.
i hope i'm right.
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Old 2008-10-12, 23:27   Link #91
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I have some thoughts, let's start working on how everyone is shall we?

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Old 2008-10-13, 00:43   Link #92
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Clockworkangel I'm afraid I can't recite them because I can't recite any request directly referencing to the 'truth' of something, etc. "Kanon is the one who killed Gohda" or anything similar to that. However, I can only give out possible hints through red words, take all those which I did not recite "Refused"
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Old 2008-10-13, 00:49   Link #93
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But I thought that only applied for the Chinese forums :/

It would have been better just to take the offer if we couldn't make use of the things we'd give up <.<

Now it's just a guessing game.
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Old 2008-10-13, 01:00   Link #94
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excuse me nadeor, are these statements refused?
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Old 2008-10-13, 03:12   Link #95
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CWA, we're almost in the same line of thought. Although, if Natsuhi's dead (which hasn't been confirmed, I do not recall seeing a red statement), then someone else is either the culprit or is following her orders (this is where Kinzo comes in, and we know they're working togheter). I want to find out what Krauss secret is, and what Eva is blackmailing him with.

Since Nanjo is not always sure about the deaths, I must say he's a stupid doctor. :P but he could have mistaken Natsuhi's death, because she was already in a state where it's hard to distinguish if she's dead or not (as said by Nanjo to Eva). Still I don't know how you can be hanged but sill not dead. Anyways, if we assume all the six are dead, then Rosa and Genji are at fault here.

And I still suspect Rosa, she HAS lied, after all.

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Old 2008-10-13, 12:49   Link #96
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Konnichiwa! Had to be absent some days... my theories are getting more consitent and this time ill ask the following: ( NONE OF THE STATEMENTS ARE DIRECT):
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Old 2008-10-13, 13:11   Link #97
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Old 2008-10-13, 13:46   Link #98
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Old 2008-10-13, 14:24   Link #99
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Anyways, since you guys are making a forseeable progress, the Witch of Despair-sama is pretty worried, so under her order I have to refuse all direct references regards to the truth. The one I gave you about Krauss' death is just to give you a little push.

I have a feeling that you guys are taking too much reference from the original works
No spell circles of any form existed when the first twilight happened
No spell circles of any form existed when the second twilight happend
No spell circles of any form existed on Rokkenjima, by 'existed' meant drawn to something on a purpose to be shown to the public
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Old 2008-10-13, 14:53   Link #100
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Here are some reticals:

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