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Old 2009-01-07, 09:15   Link #2021
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^^ I actually like the scenario you're suggesting.The damage would come from the aftermath rather than the incident itself.


And it would be a nice turnover from the current state of the Federation where everybody is happy,unconcerned and kindaoff wealthy.


Not even Veda can do much in such a situation.Well alot but still alot less.
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Old 2009-01-07, 09:16   Link #2022
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By the way,considerong that space is mostly vacuume,aren't all the space batle we have suppose to be almost soundless?

Or sound was added for the benifit of excitement for the audience?
The latter. And considering that 99.9% of all space-based sci-fi has sound in space, I'm not sure why that particular issue was brought here all of a sudden - it's simply TV tradition
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Old 2009-01-07, 09:20   Link #2023
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The latter. And considering that 99.9% of all space-based sci-fi has sound in space, I'm not sure why that particular issue was brought here all of a sudden - it's simply TV tradition
It's just a simple case of a person trying to compare animes to real-life physics.

Not much of a hubba actually, just a knock to the head and he/she will be all okay.
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Old 2009-01-07, 09:32   Link #2024
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The latter. And considering that 99.9% of all space-based sci-fi has sound in space, I'm not sure why that particular issue was brought here all of a sudden - it's simply TV tradition
Blame Star Trek fans.

Original Star Trek TV show had no sound in Space. But fan complaints forced them to put sound in. That has far-reaching consequences for portrayal of Space combat.
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Old 2009-01-07, 16:05   Link #2025
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On the whole beam saber vs GN blade, I personally think if enough GN Particles are laced onto the blade, it'll be stronger than a beam.

The fight between Arche Gundam and the 00 a few episodes ago kinda shows that. During the fight the Arche deflects several beam blasts from the 00's refined shots, with its Buster Sword.

They can take out an Ahead in one shot, but fell short against the Buster Sword. So, I'd say with special circumstances, a GN blade is stronger.
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Old 2009-01-07, 16:18   Link #2026
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On the whole beam saber vs GN blade, I personally think if enough GN Particles are laced onto the blade, it'll be stronger than a beam.

The fight between Arche Gundam and the 00 a few episodes ago kinda shows that. During the fight the Arche deflects several beam blasts from the 00's refined shots, with its Buster Sword.

They can take out an Ahead in one shot, but fell short against the Buster Sword. So, I'd say with special circumstances, a GN blade is stronger.
I would still say that no matter how much GN particles are "laced" in the blade, there is always a possibility that a beam saber can cut it or vice versa. Arche gundam's sword is meant to be used in that way, you don't see 00 or Exia doing the same thing with its GN Sword II or other blades.
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Old 2009-01-07, 17:25   Link #2027
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But they most likely could do it. ^ Just because we didn't SEE them do it, doesn't exactly mean the blades aren't capable.
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Old 2009-01-07, 19:24   Link #2028
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But they most likely could do it. ^ Just because we didn't SEE them do it, doesn't exactly mean the blades aren't capable.
If they did, he would have actually use the blade themselves, for the ones used by 00 as well as Exia to deflect or break. Anyway, if it was protected as you say, then why didn't Setsuna didn't deflect collateral fire as well as the break against Garazzo.
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Old 2009-01-07, 19:57   Link #2029
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DOES SETSUNA BRUSH HIS TEETH?!

WE DON'T SEE IT ON SCREEN SO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS THE CAPABILITY TO BRUSH HIS teeth.
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Old 2009-01-07, 21:23   Link #2030
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And the fights with the Garazzo were continuous with no off-screen moments involved, just saying.

And you might want to keep the caps lock down...
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Old 2009-01-07, 21:50   Link #2031
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Here's my personal take on the Beam saber vs GN blade debate.

the beam saber is GN particles/energy held within an invisible magnetic containment field, it's strength and width can be adjusted depending on energy flow. It will melt through most materials easily with prolonged contract with the exception of another beam,GN blade or a GN field

Where as the GN blade is a type of special material which has been laced with dormant GN particles, when extra energy/particles are directed into the GN enriched material the particles within it vibrate at incredible speeds providing both an extremely sharp cutting edge and the ability to repel GN beam sabers

GN blades have a disadvantage to beam sabers because they have a solid material to them which can be fractured and broken where as the beam saber isn't (simply put their is nothing to break)

the Advantages of GN blades is they can pierce GN fields,have a greater surface area (depending on their shape) and probably require less energy than their beam saber equivalents
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Old 2009-01-07, 21:52   Link #2032
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Here's my personal take on the Beam saber vs GN blade debate.

the beam saber is GN particles/energy held within an invisible magnetic containment field, it's strength and width can be adjusted depending on energy flow. It will melt through most materials easily with prolonged contract with the exception of another beam,GN blade or a GN field

Where as the GN blade is a type of special material which has been laced with dormant GN particles, when extra energy/particles are directed into the GN enriched material the particles within it vibrate at incredible speeds providing both an extremely sharp cutting edge and the ability to repel GN beam sabers

GN blades have a disadvantage to beam sabers because they have a solid material to them which can be fractured and broken where as the beam saber isn't (simply put their is nothing to break)
That sounds about right.
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Old 2009-01-07, 21:58   Link #2033
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GN blades have a disadvantage to beam sabers because they have a solid material to them which can be fractured and broken where as the beam saber isn't (simply put their is nothing to break)
Meaning a GN Blade can only take some much of a beating right? Eventually the stress the beam puts on the blade will cause it to break(ex Exia's GN Blade in S2 ep 1).
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Translations please
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Old 2009-01-07, 21:59   Link #2035
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Meaning a GN Blade can only take some much of a beating right? Eventually the stress the beam puts on the blade will cause it to break(ex Exia's GN Blade in S2 ep 1).
That would mean all GN blades, whether 00, Arche, or other units with those weapons.
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:04   Link #2036
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Translations please
From the little I can read of the kanji, The GN-Archer was originally designed to be a 3rd Generation Gundam unit like the others. But the idea was abandoned, and the GN-Archer was given a gigantic GN-condenser instead.

I will leave the rest to the real translators.
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:09   Link #2037
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That would mean all GN blades, whether 00, Arche, or other units with those weapons.
the 00's GN gun/sword II is a GN blade, rifle and beam saber combined, in episode 12 it used both it's GN Gunswords to slice through an asteroid so Ali's Buster sword won't be a problem
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:11   Link #2038
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Translations please
Arios Gundam's support machine. Built in the L3 factory. Originally designed as a 3rd generation Gundam, the idea was abandoned before it's complete, and it's made into a support machine instead, and given a huge GN Condenser. When combined, it feeds off energy from Arios. For the concept of the MS, it's an improved model of Kyrios's tail booster. This suit can combine with Arios for more weapon, and when a pilot is in it, can transform into a MS to operate independently. Below the container, there's space to mount guns
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:15   Link #2039
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Arios Gundam's support machine. Built the L3 factory. Originally designed as a 3rd generation Gundam, the idea was abandoned before it's complete, and it's made into a support machine instead, and given a huge GN Condenser. When combined, it feeds off energy from Arios. For the concept of the MS, it's an improved model of Kyrios's tail booster. This suit can combine with Arios for more weapon, and when a pilot is in it, can transform into a MS to operate independently. Below the container, there's space to mount guns
Where is the exact placement of the guns?
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Where is the exact placement of the guns?
I think when they say "below", they mean under the wings while in MA form.
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