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Old 2009-01-07, 22:19   Link #2041
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Where is the exact placement of the guns?
There was a pic of the Robot Damashii GN Archer where the black part of the "wings", aka the side pods slid down. I assume that's the part being talked about.

Also, Gadessa profile:

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Old 2009-01-07, 22:20   Link #2042
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we can see that if more GN particles are use on the GN blade and other sword the more it can cut just look when Exia is fighting Ali setsuna got angry and then the condenser on the chest went glowy mode the blade was able to cut more.
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:22   Link #2043
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we can see that if more GN particles are use on the GN blade and other sword the more it can cut just look when Exia is fighting Ali setsuna got angry and then the condenser on the chest went glowy mode the blade was able to cut more.
indeed it did but Ali's Rifle/sword was neither a GN blade nor a beam saber
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:22   Link #2044
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Can anyone translate Gadessa's profile please? Thank you!
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:23   Link #2045
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indeed it did but Ali's Rifle/sword was neither a GN blade nor a beam saber
true that O_O
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:24   Link #2046
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Can anyone translate Gadessa's profile please? Thank you!
probably says constructed using information obtained from veda, far superior to 3rd generation gundams blah, blah, blah piloted by innovator revive rival blah, blah, blah designed for mid-long range combat, nothing you already didn't know

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Old 2009-01-07, 22:26   Link #2047
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Gadessa is a Gundam in disguise, behind the normal face, there's a Gundam face

As for GN Archer's weapons



GN Beam Rifle
GN Archer is equipped with 2 of them. Compared to those used by Gundams, the barrel of the rifles are wider, so they have wider range. Instead of attacking the enemy, the main purpose of the rifles is to protect friend units (like shooting to create a gap between the enemy and friendly unit)

GN Vulcan
Equipped on the front of the plane part, used in missiles intercepting. Low power but high firing rate. In MS battle, used to limit the enemy's movement.

GN Missiles
Target seeking missiles, there's 8 hatches in total, and 16 doors (not really sure how to translate into the exact terms). When the GN Missiles hit their targets, they inject GN particles to destroy the enemy within.

GN Beam Saber
Same weapon used by other Gundams. GN Archer has 2 of them, used in MS mode
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:43   Link #2048
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Beam Saber

Pros:
-Cuts via intense heat
-No weight outside the handle, thus able to be swung in quicker/more fluid motions that is not possible with physical swords.

Cons:
-Affected by environmental conditions.
-Consumes lots of power.
-(Currently) unable to penetrate a GN Field.
-No weight other than the handle means little kinetic force (it cuts via intense heat), thus it can be overpowered by a GN Blade.
-Affected by equipment that nullifies beam weapons.

GN Blade

Pros:
-Cuts via sharpness
-Not affected by environmental conditions.
-Can pierce a GN Field
-Has weight so the MS can utilize more kinetic force in attacks. (can technically overpower beam sabers in clashes)

Cons:
-Can be broken and rendered null/void.
-Having weight limits the motions of the swings to human standards. Slower than beam sabers. Also thus lowers the MS' agility.
-Suseptiable to wear&tear. Chances of breaking increases the longer a battle continues.
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Old 2009-01-07, 22:50   Link #2049
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Beam Saber

Pros:
-Cuts via intense heat
-No weight outside the handle, thus able to be swung in quicker/more fluid motions that is not possible with physical swords.

Cons:
-Affected by environmental conditions.
-Consumes lots of power.
-(Currently) unable to penetrate a GN Field.
-No weight other than the handle means little kinetic force (it cuts via intense heat), thus it can be overpowered by a GN Blade.
-Affected by equipment that nullifies beam weapons.

GN Blade

Pros:
-Cuts via sharpness
-Not affected by environmental conditions.
-Can pierce a GN Field
-Has weight so the MS can utilize more kinetic force in attacks. (can technically overpower beam sabers in clashes)

Cons:
-Can be broken and rendered null/void.
-Having weight limits the motions of the swings to human standards. Slower than beam sabers. Also thus lowers the MS' agility.
-Suseptiable to wear&tear. Chances of breaking increases the longer a battle continues.
I agree completely with your statement/facts, I must admit I forgot to mention that beam sabers strength is halved when it rains or submerged underwater
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Old 2009-01-07, 23:01   Link #2050
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There was a pic of the Robot Damashii GN Archer where the black part of the "wings", aka the side pods slid down. I assume that's the part being talked about.

Also, Gadessa profile:

Rough Translation

A MS piloted by one of the A-LAWS's License, Revive Revival. An Innovator MS, built using data of Celestial Being's Gundam in Veda. The fake GN Drive used by Gadessa is improved, and its ability is almost equal to a true GN Drive. Behind face armor, there's a Gundam face inside. There's a third cameara Line (?) Sensor located on its head. Designed in long range combat, it uses Virtue's data. GN Mega Launcher is an improved model of Virtue's GN Bazooka. TO uses such weapon that consumes huge amount of GN Particles, there's huge GN Condensers on Gadessa's shoulder parts (same position as Virtue).

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GN Mega Launcher
Mounted on waist. The 3 barrels can be used as normal Beam Rifle. When the 3 barrels open up, there's the barrel for the Mega Launcher. Like Virtue, charge time is necessary for high destructive power. For power support, energy pack is used. Normal situation, a pack can be used for 2 shots. Pack 2 can be used for a maximum of 4 shots.

GN Vulcan
Equipped on both arms, low power and high firing rate. Used to control enemy movement, smoke screen, missiles intercepting

GN Beam Saber
Stored in side arms, main weapon for close combat. As Gadessa is a range combat MS, it's not used frequently.

GN Katar (or Cutter?)
Located on shoulders and arms, thin blades that can create GN Field. Used in closes combat, as there's no prep time to draw the weapon, it's very effective in combat
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Old 2009-01-07, 23:25   Link #2051
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I just hope the Gundam like face for Gadessa is reveal in the show,I wonder how it would look like.

So the Gadessa is somewhat an improved version of Virtue?They use Virtue data for Gadessa combat system.I wonder if they use Exia data for Garazzo system.
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Old 2009-01-07, 23:34   Link #2052
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The Innovators mobilesuits are built using Gundam designs as a their template then improved upon using current technologies


Innovator Suits * Design origins * Pilot

GNZ-001 ??? * O gundam? * Ribbons Almack

GNZ-002 ??? * Dynames? * Regene regetta?

GNZ-003 Gadessa * Virtue ? * Rivive Rival, Hilling care

GNZ-004 ??? * Kyrios? * Bring's female twin?

GNZ-005 Gazarro * Exia? * Bring Stability

I wonder if these suspected innovator suits will make an appearence? If not it was strange to give the Gadessa the designation 003 and Gazarro the designation 005. Where are units 001,002 and 004?
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Old 2009-01-07, 23:41   Link #2053
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Seems to me the Garazzo is a combination of both Virtue and Exia, in that its a close combat unit that utilizes a GN Field in Combat similar to what Virtue could do.
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Old 2009-01-07, 23:46   Link #2054
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Seems to me the Garazzo is a combination of both Virtue and Exia, in that its a close combat unit that utilizes a GN Field in Combat similar to what Virtue could do.
yeah true, Gadessa is kinda a fusion of virtue and Dynames too. I thought about the innovators merging two gundam designs into one, but those missing designations kinda make me think there are more unseen units to come
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Old 2009-01-08, 00:01   Link #2055
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I think for Gadessa as well as Garazzo, they used all the different data from the gundams virtue, kyrios, dynames, and exia. It would make more sense to merge different aspect that the gundam is known for, in addition to any personal tune up for the pilot. Since if it was just a one, two, or three, it would still suffer from other problems based on the gundams.
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Old 2009-01-08, 00:09   Link #2056
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so what it said up there is true the GN drive T tech is advancing quite in big steps almost as good as a true GN drive so maybe the MS for ribbons will have a super uber mega mest up GN T drive O_O
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Old 2009-01-08, 00:20   Link #2057
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so what it said up there is true the GN drive T tech is advancing quite in big steps almost as good as a true GN drive so maybe the MS for ribbons will have a super uber mega mest up GN T drive O_O
The downside of a GN Drive Tau is that it requires electricity in order to generate the GN Particles.

The more power the GN Drive Tau, the more electricity it requires to generate the GN Particles (unless technology advances and the drive becomes more efficient, lowering the amount of power wasted to generate the GN Particles).

This flaw is already apparent on the Garazzo. Its higher performance than the CB Gundams, but consequently drains so much power that its operation time is limited.

This also makes having multiple GN Drive Taus in-efficient on MS', as more of them would drain the MS' power even faster.

Edit:

Actually, come to think about it, a GN Drive Tau could eventually surpass a GN Drive (assuming more isn't made), since you could build one bigass GN Drive Tau with another bigass generator to surpass the particle production of a GN Drive.

This makes a Tau equipped starships possible in the future of the 00 Universe. Of course then theres a problem finding a renewable power source so that the Tau drive remains operational. It'll probably be easier just to build a bigass true GN Drive.

This is not factoring in the Twin Drive btw.
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Old 2009-01-08, 00:49   Link #2058
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So Soma is gonna pilot the Gn Arher i wonder what kind of c.b. uniform she'll be wearing?
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Old 2009-01-08, 01:14   Link #2059
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So Soma is gonna pilot the Gn Arher i wonder what kind of c.b. uniform she'll be wearing?
We have red, green, blue, purple, orange, we are missing gray or brown.
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Old 2009-01-08, 01:16   Link #2060
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We have red, green, blue, purple, orange, we are missing gray or brown.
There is gray, it is worn by the people of CB in episode 11 and 12 I think, as well as Lasse. As for brown, I don't think there is any.
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