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Old 2008-10-18, 00:31   Link #201
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Seeing this picture reminds me of how poorly designed the Thrones were. I mean come one! You call that a Gundam?! Setsuna and the crew should of immediately recognized that they were cheap knock-offs. They probably were designed, manufactured, and rolled out in less than a couple of months. And they use GN Drive [T]'s. It wasn't until they started attacking civilians that Setsuna and the gang said, "Oh, they are SO not part of Celestial Being."
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Old 2008-10-18, 00:39   Link #202
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Seeing this picture reminds me of how poorly designed the Thrones were. I mean come one! You call that a Gundam?! Setsuna and the crew should of immediately recognized that they were cheap knock-offs. They probably were designed, manufactured, and rolled out in less than a couple of months. And they use GN Drive [T]'s. It wasn't until they started attacking civilians that Setsuna and the gang said, "Oh, they are SO not part of Celestial Being."
Well anything with a gundam head will deceive me into thinking it's a gundam.
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Old 2008-10-18, 00:41   Link #203
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That's kind of sad considering I don't recall once where he used a beam sabre
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Episode 22,when Ali attempts to attack Trans Am Exia from behind and gets omnislashed.
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Old 2008-10-18, 08:28   Link #204
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Seeing this picture reminds me of how poorly designed the Thrones were. I mean come one! You call that a Gundam?! Setsuna and the crew should of immediately recognized that they were cheap knock-offs. They probably were designed, manufactured, and rolled out in less than a couple of months. And they use GN Drive [T]'s. It wasn't until they started attacking civilians that Setsuna and the gang said, "Oh, they are SO not part of Celestial Being."
Meh, I actually liked the thrones design kinda and especially the Zwei's...
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Old 2008-10-18, 11:05   Link #205
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Meh, I actually liked the thrones design kinda and especially the Zwei's...
Me too actually. Compared to the original Gundams, I think that they are better.
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Old 2008-10-18, 11:14   Link #206
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Though I do sorta hate Drei for killing the Agrissa crab MA thing of Ali's.
I love that thing...
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Old 2008-10-18, 14:35   Link #207
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Here's something that I'd like to know.

Why are the GN Particles on that thing still red?
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Old 2008-10-18, 15:24   Link #208
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Here's something that I'd like to know.

Why are the GN Particles on that thing still red?
look orange to me. >_>

here's a shot of the red particles of the old Zwei for comparison:
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Old 2008-10-18, 15:43   Link #209
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look orange to me. >_>

here's a shot of the red particles of the old Zwei for comparison:
That's what I thought too but after looking it over it keeps switching from orange to red.
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Old 2008-10-18, 16:58   Link #210
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That's what I thought too but after looking it over it keeps switching from orange to red.
nope, it stay's orange for the entire sequence. just watched it to make sure.

are you thinking of the 4 beams of red light coming from the jewel on Seravii's second head?
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Old 2008-10-18, 18:34   Link #211
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Well, if we compare the trails only, Federation's GN drives are shining orange, but the one of Nena's mech (Gundam Throne Drei 2.0 ?) is brilliant red as seen in the OP. And comparatively to the federation one's, Ali's trail was closer to Nena's.

Also, after reading it's description, I wonder if a Turbulenz unit could make it's apparition in season 2 (the description said that only a single unit was rolled out, but hardly ever used, as a certain man didn't wanted the Thrones to get too powerfull, and anyway their usefullness was reaching their end at that point.

Also, it would fit the Gattai theme that will become important with the 0-Riser!!!

I wonder if at that point Wang took a personal interest in the Thrones, hence her making contact with them.

We know that she later took Nena in with her Drei, and is using their Mothership. She, together with Long and Nena were shown wearing some fancy new spacesuits that I first tought being fancy civilian suits.
But as Nena is shown piloting her Gundam in it during the new op, I am inclined to think that it is the uniform of her faction, something like Throne Team 2.0.
By extension, I suspect that 2 additional Gundam Thrones are gonna appear later, with Long and Wang as Meisters (the first is a skilled fighter, but the latter...)
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Old 2008-10-18, 19:19   Link #212
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Well, if we compare the trails only, Federation's GN drives are shining orange, but the one of Nena's mech (Gundam Throne Drei 2.0 ?) is brilliant red as seen in the OP. And comparatively to the federation one's, Ali's trail was closer to Nena's.
Graham's GN particles, Ali's Gn particles, Nena's GN particles.

now you honestly mean to tell me Ali's orange ones are closer to the deep red particles on Nena's as opposed to the copper/light orange ones on the ahead? >_>

As an amusing aside, The Ahead's beam sword and the beams from Ali's fangs?

exact same color.
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Old 2008-10-18, 20:21   Link #213
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Well, if we compare the trails only, Federation's GN drives are shining orange, but the one of Nena's mech (Gundam Throne Drei 2.0 ?) is brilliant red as seen in the OP. And comparatively to the federation one's, Ali's trail was closer to Nena's.

Also, after reading it's description, I wonder if a Turbulenz unit could make it's apparition in season 2 (the description said that only a single unit was rolled out, but hardly ever used, as a certain man didn't wanted the Thrones to get too powerfull, and anyway their usefullness was reaching their end at that point.

Also, it would fit the Gattai theme that will become important with the 0-Riser!!!

I wonder if at that point Wang took a personal interest in the Thrones, hence her making contact with them.

We know that she later took Nena in with her Drei, and is using their Mothership. She, together with Long and Nena were shown wearing some fancy new spacesuits that I first tought being fancy civilian suits.
But as Nena is shown piloting her Gundam in it during the new op, I am inclined to think that it is the uniform of her faction, something like Throne Team 2.0.
By extension, I suspect that 2 additional Gundam Thrones are gonna appear later, with Long and Wang as Meisters (the first is a skilled fighter, but the latter...)
Nena skill should have improve after that long. Let's hope she has better accuracy when shooting enemy. What will be Drei 2.0 main armament?
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Old 2008-10-18, 23:34   Link #214
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Something new on the head targeting display image.
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Old 2008-10-18, 23:41   Link #215
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Something new on the head targeting display image.
It is a projected visor, that is tuck in the right shield that contorts around for the visor position.
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Old 2008-10-18, 23:53   Link #216
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It is a projected visor, that is tuck in the right shield that contorts around for the visor position.
It doesn't come from the right shield - it comes from two fold-out pieces that come from the backpack.
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Old 2008-10-18, 23:54   Link #217
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It doesn't come from the right shield - it comes from two fold-out pieces that come from the backpack.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 2008-10-18, 23:57   Link #218
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To further clarify where they come from:

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Old 2008-10-19, 00:00   Link #219
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To further clarify where they come from:

That is a very convenient location to put it in.

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Old 2008-10-19, 02:27   Link #220
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Seeing this picture reminds me of how poorly designed the Thrones were. I mean come one! You call that a Gundam?! Setsuna and the crew should of immediately recognized that they were cheap knock-offs. They probably were designed, manufactured, and rolled out in less than a couple of months. And they use GN Drive [T]'s. It wasn't until they started attacking civilians that Setsuna and the gang said, "Oh, they are SO not part of Celestial Being."
Err, obviously the design has a different theme to it. The Thrones all look more "evil" to put it bluntly. However, it's not like the original 4 looked more awesome than the Thrones. Eins was pretty damn awesome compared to Dynames for the most part once the Thrones came out due to very little time where Dynames can afford to go in stances that look awesome (like cowboy stance vs graham or sniper seat in ep 1). And, the original 4 have a feeder pulling them down called Virtue, so the style points are still balanced.

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Episode 22,when Ali attempts to attack Trans Am Exia from behind and gets omnislashed.
LOL you are right! I don't even understand it though cause I thought people said he used the buster sword as a sacrifice to escape, so why was he using a beam sabre at that point? I mean, ASSUMING his buster sword is superior in every way, which well it should be, then wtf was the point of that? It's like having Virtue in the last episode using Vulcans or something. OHH LOOK I HAVE THEM XD

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Nena skill should have improve after that long. Let's hope she has better accuracy when shooting enemy. What will be Drei 2.0 main armament?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but 00's biggest weakness as a gundam series is that there's only 1 way for sure to get more awesome, and that's through plot, aka the writers want you to win. I'm not saying this because it's a show, I'm saying this because S1 and so far S2 has shown ZERO attempts at showing HOW a pilot improves. They SOMETIMES and I mean very RARELY show when a pilot is awesome through technical detail small talk, but there has been zero TRAINING segments, zero FIGHTING TACTICS segments (Tieria telling Setsuna to go PLAN XYZ when we NEVER EVEN HEARD OF IT doesn't count), and absolutely ZERO times where I've seen people remotely truly expressing they want to win a fight that doesn't have to do with their emotions. This story as said in other threads is character driven, and mainly on their motivations and past and what not that builds towards their determination. How 00 activated by Setsuna's LOUDNESS is pretty much proof enough. Even KIRA YAMATO had more REALISTIC improvement by himself than everyone put together in 00.

Funny thing is, Beginning S1 to end of S1, ALL THE PILOTS SKILL LEVEL ARE THE SAME LOL. Any DIFFERENCE in outcome is always due to stuff like OH MY HEAD HURTS or OH MY SUIT IS RETARDED or OH IM PATRICK etc etc.

And I know it's still early in the season and blah blah blah, but off the record here, just my personal opinion, but I really do think Ali's suit looks like the final boss out of everything shown so far, including the kits we haven't seen from the 4 gundams. The thing just looks like a last boss. Not saying it'll beat 0 riser 00, but I mean, it's frigging bowser material ya know? It makes me sad cause the other boss pilot Graham gets stuck with a gimpy Ahead that has a Shogun Hat T_T like W T F?

Course I'll be totally wrong when Ribbons rolls out the megazord, tailor made with 100 GN taus. It also used to be called Colony Mendel.
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