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Old 2010-04-17, 11:36   Link #7801
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Wait a sec, what?

Why would the Reborns' Fin Fangs need to have their power amplified? They already can shoot large cannon like beams.
He's saying that the Fin Fangs in Tank Mode basically amplifies the power of the Buster Rifle so they can shoot more powerful beams. Imagine Seravee connecting his Bazookas to his shoulder cannons to do a powerful beam, that is equipment assisted.

Remember, that Reborns Origin does not have a Twin Drive. The beam ability of its weapons would have been dramatically less. In conjunction, it also has to be more particle conservative in nature. Using this configuration, its probably producing long powerful beams more via equipment specialisation of the combo[with traditional conservatism rules very much in mind] rather than relying on the powerful particles torrents of the Twin Drive.

With the Twin Drive, most suits can basically just pump a load and rely much less on equipment specialisation and conventional balance rules[kinda like 00 doesnt need a giant bazzoka or launcher to produce large long range beams, a suit like Gadessa does].
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Old 2010-04-17, 12:56   Link #7802
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Wait a sec, what?

Why would the Reborns' Fin Fangs need to have their power amplified? They already can shoot large cannon like beams.
We are talking about the Reborns Origin variant Nosferatu the one that had a tank mode and in the 2 pictures I have seen of it the beam rifles have large fin fangs attached to them and somehow I can't see Ribbons adding them for decoration.
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Old 2010-04-17, 18:35   Link #7803
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My bad on that, I thought you two were talking about the other Reborns, lol.

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Old 2010-04-17, 21:47   Link #7804
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Hm, ya know, after looking at the capture units from 00 S1 ep 15...I'm sure they could be used as large hand held shields.
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Old 2010-04-17, 22:24   Link #7805
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Hm, ya know, after looking at the capture units from 00 S1 ep 15...I'm sure they could be used as large hand held shields.
What are you talking about you lost me.
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Old 2010-04-17, 22:29   Link #7806
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What are you talking about you lost me.
I think it's the barrier things the Hellions used when capturing Virtue.
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Old 2010-04-17, 22:39   Link #7807
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What he said.^

It gives off a repulsive field, when four of them are put together, they create a field that nothing can escape from. Seems logical that it is a possibility they can be used as heavy shields.
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Old 2010-04-18, 13:40   Link #7808
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What he said.^

It gives off a repulsive field, when four of them are put together, they create a field that nothing can escape from. Seems logical that it is a possibility they can be used as heavy shields.
Unlikely, they give off a field only when 4 of them covers it, and it only affects the thing inside. We're not even sure whether its an attractive or repulsive force those sides walls are doing.

There's also no telling whether that field will block anything thats not inside it either, nevermind the fact that you can't trap anything inside it unless you have that thing covered from all sides.

There's also no telling how effective the steel like plate as a defense mechanism on a material basis. Even if it was, its totally counterproductive to the light and agile philosophy the Jet blocs have adapted given how bulky it appears to be.
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Old 2010-04-18, 13:42   Link #7809
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What he said.^

It gives off a repulsive field, when four of them are put together, they create a field that nothing can escape from. Seems logical that it is a possibility they can be used as heavy shields.
Yeah that makes sense one thing I couldn't figure out when watching the show is why they weren't depolying them with more of there suits to use as shields especialy once the Thrones started attacking.
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Old 2010-04-18, 14:17   Link #7810
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Because they may not be designed to be used as traditional shields,and cannot act as such?
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Old 2010-04-18, 17:25   Link #7811
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Because they may not be designed to be used as traditional shields,and cannot act as such?
True, but I'm just going from what I saw when they were used. It appears as a single unit, they're used to repulse something. So when all 4 combine the repulsive field gets stronger, allowing whatever is in it (Virtue) not to move.

So...yeah THEY ARE made to act together, but seeing as one does give off a repulsive field, I'd say acting as a large solid shield isn't too impossible.

Say a Hellion (without the flight pack) uses this shield against linear rifle shots. The repulsive field (in theory, and if strong enough) would bounce it away.

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Old 2010-04-19, 14:37   Link #7812
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Remind me,is Seravee's beam power necessarilly greater than that of Virtue?
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Old 2010-04-19, 14:41   Link #7813
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Yes, yes it is. Not only does it have more guns, it can use them in more ways than the Virtue can.
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Old 2010-04-19, 18:19   Link #7814
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Remind me,is Seravee's beam power necessarilly greater than that of Virtue?
Um yes?

Look at how many shots Seravee can dish out, and then look at Virtue.
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True, but I'm just going from what I saw when they were used. It appears as a single unit, they're used to repulse something. So when all 4 combine the repulsive field gets stronger, allowing whatever is in it (Virtue) not to move.

So...yeah THEY ARE made to act together, but seeing as one does give off a repulsive field, I'd say acting as a large solid shield isn't too impossible.

Say a Hellion (without the flight pack) uses this shield against linear rifle shots. The repulsive field (in theory, and if strong enough) would bounce it away.
It takes ALOT of energy to create a repulsive field strong enough to block a linear rifle shot, considering how much force there is in a single linear rifle shot. I find it hard to see non-GN tech do it. It doesn't help that each unit needs 2 of those shields, and 8 in total just to contain Virtue.

And there is a difference from creating a repulsive field to contain something than creating a repulsive field to stop something from coming at you at very high velocity. Not to mention keeping it on all the time.

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Remind me,is Seravee's beam power necessarilly greater than that of Virtue?
It is actually. One of the earliest S2 data the mags keep giving us before S2 aired is that Seravee's GN Cannons are stronger than Virtue's despite being smaller in size.

The rest, is implied visually. Upgrades in this series are usually an RPG level higher, meaning that the newer generations are usually superior in every stat than the previous one.

Seravee tactics is usually a lot more "lesser heavy" beam spamming, but it can go all out single heavy as well by combining all six beam output. Its different configuration options is actually one of its biggest improvement, and this is even before the better beam power comes into consideration.
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Old 2010-04-20, 00:58   Link #7816
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. I find it hard to see non-GN tech do it.
Defense Rod?
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Defense Rod?
Notice how those things tend to get banged up by blocking projectiles?
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Notice how those things tend to get banged up by blocking projectiles?
The space use Realdo blocked a rifle blast from the GN-XIII's GN Lance pretty good. During the Enact's demonstration in the first episode it blocked a few gattling shots pretty well.

As far as I remember, the only defense rod I saw get bent up was Graham's Overflag blocking particle blasts from Dynames' GN Pistols.
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Still goes to show that they're not infallible and can be busted.
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Old 2010-04-20, 01:30   Link #7820
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Against advanced weaponry yeah, they'll fail. But with conventional weaponry, I'm pretty sure they can withstand some good punishment.
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