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Old 2008-12-05, 03:15   Link #1061
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The Feds already have GN field technology, just that they use it in a localised area rather than surrounding the whole suit. One explanation I thought up was that it took up a lot of the stored energy in their Tau drives, therefore it was hardly economical.

As for the technological advantage of the suits possessed by CB, it doesn't look like they have much of one, given that the Tau drives are said to be slightly less efficient as compared to the true drives, which somehow has 100% efficiency. This explains the way the Gundams get owned by the Tau drive suits since the Feds have closed the technological gap by so much ever since they got their drives.

Therefore what I think is that it's all up to the O Raizer now, or else CB is toast.
Is it possible that the reason the Federation has closed the tech gap so much isn't because of their resources, but rather because Veda is guiding them and leaking out information on classified Celestial being tech?
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Old 2008-12-05, 03:21   Link #1062
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Is it possible that the reason the Federation has closed the tech gap so much isn't because of their resources, but rather because Veda is guiding them and leaking out information on classified Celestial being tech?
Given that most of the technology used by the current ESF were already present on the GN-X, and that many of the technologies actually have a pre-Gundam tech base for them (the HRL, Union and AEU had rudimentary beam weapons tech even before the Gundams appeared for example), I'd say it's more the Federation's resources rather than VEDA. It's been shown that the Earth is very quick at adapting technologies (see the Advanced GN-X).
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Old 2008-12-05, 03:22   Link #1063
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Yea. Mr. Bushido's Ahead has a lot more than it meets the eye.

It really gets me thinking though, Graham asked Billy for the strongest sword even though he already has a better than normal beam saber so what is Billy gonna make him? Are we ready to see something like a GN Buster Sword or a zankentou?
GN Zankantou, 50 metre E-Carbon blade with a GN Drive powering it.

DaiBushido Twin Drive!! Shippu Jinrai!! Wa ga Zankantou ni tatenu mono nashi!!!

(Blade Gainer(Godannar) and Daizengar reference for those interested)
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Old 2008-12-05, 03:31   Link #1064
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If it isn't their tech, then why are the Gundams such a threat then? The latest episode showed that if A-Laws got serious, then they could completely overwhelm and destroy Celestial Being (if not for Trans-Am saving CB).
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Old 2008-12-05, 05:22   Link #1065
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If it isn't their tech, then why are the Gundams such a threat then? The latest episode showed that if A-Laws got serious, then they could completely overwhelm and destroy Celestial Being (if not for Trans-Am saving CB).
Bad memories, and they know CB has a tendency to pull out completely new shit out of their asses when the going gets tough.
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Old 2008-12-05, 05:43   Link #1066
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this probably has been asked somewhere before.. but does anyone know what those crosshair looking things on the Gundam's guns are and what they're for? they look like they're just there for style.. GN condenser for the gun?

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Old 2008-12-05, 05:49   Link #1067
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GN Zankantou, 50 metre E-Carbon blade with a GN Drive powering it.

DaiBushido Twin Drive!! Shippu Jinrai!! Wa ga Zankantou ni tatenu mono nashi!!!

(Blade Gainer(Godannar) and Daizengar reference for those interested)
How the heck is he going to install such a large GN drive into the sword?

I think the sword is probby going to be a Nodachi (2 handed heavysword, fatter than the Daikatana) since he is so weeaboo"Japanese" now. It is going to meet its western counterpart as a GN Buster Sword.
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Old 2008-12-05, 06:09   Link #1068
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Old 2008-12-05, 06:26   Link #1069
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How the heck is he going to install such a large GN drive into the sword?

I think the sword is probby going to be a Nodachi (2 handed heavysword, fatter than the Daikatana) since he is so weeaboo"Japanese" now. It is going to meet its western counterpart as a GN Buster Sword.
10 mins to think, draw and scan.

GN Zankantou:

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Old 2008-12-05, 06:50   Link #1070
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How the heck is he going to install such a large GN drive into the sword?

I think the sword is probby going to be a Nodachi (2 handed heavysword, fatter than the Daikatana) since he is so weeaboo"Japanese" now. It is going to meet its western counterpart as a GN Buster Sword.
Here, the Zankantou. How can't it fit?

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Old 2008-12-05, 07:02   Link #1071
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10 mins to think, draw and scan.

GN Zankantou:

GN Zankantou!!! I must be dreaming.*Facepalm*
Hopefully Bushido does get something like that,Western vs East.Whoa that epic.
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Old 2008-12-05, 07:02   Link #1072
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Indeed a Zankantou can work, or maybe another Gerbera Straight 150.

Well, Graham can learn as much from Zengar as possible but will never match his awesomeness ever.

Starting from their purpose for wielding the katana, Graham is like a villian compared to Zengar lol
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Old 2008-12-05, 07:57   Link #1073
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The new Innovator MS looks pretty cool

Nice info on Mr. Bushido's Ahead. THe profile on Mr. Bushido himself is really hilarious. It's like they're trying to hard to hide his true identity
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Old 2008-12-05, 11:43   Link #1074
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Given that most of the technology used by the current ESF were already present on the GN-X, and that many of the technologies actually have a pre-Gundam tech base for them (the HRL, Union and AEU had rudimentary beam weapons tech even before the Gundams appeared for example), I'd say it's more the Federation's resources rather than VEDA. It's been shown that the Earth is very quick at adapting technologies (see the Advanced GN-X).
Were did it show any earth nation using beam weapons.
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Old 2008-12-05, 13:25   Link #1075
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Were did it show any earth nation using beam weapons.
I don't know if it showed them with the beam weapons, but the technology was there. The reason why they didn't use the beam weaponry was because it was unfeasible to waste energy with it, since most mobile suits at the time had limited power sources, up until the ENACT. And then along came the Gundams and their GN-Drives, who didn't have to worry about such limitations... yeah.
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Old 2008-12-05, 15:32   Link #1076
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Old 2008-12-05, 16:07   Link #1077
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I don't know if it showed them with the beam weapons, but the technology was there. The reason why they didn't use the beam weaponry was because it was unfeasible to waste energy with it, since most mobile suits at the time had limited power sources, up until the ENACT. And then along came the Gundams and their GN-Drives, who didn't have to worry about such limitations... yeah.
well dunno about the mangas but in the anime i didn't see anything related whit that info so is more of speculations then anything else or if any one has seen that info some were tell me plz.
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Old 2008-12-05, 16:22   Link #1078
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well dunno about the mangas but in the anime i didn't see anything related whit that info so is more of speculations then anything else or if any one has seen that info some were tell me plz.
Well, the Overflag did have an anti beam coating so some type of beam weapon must have existed only not for the MS.
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Old 2008-12-05, 16:55   Link #1079
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Here's something interesting info i found on Ngee Khiong regarding the O Raizer's HCM-Pro
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- 94mm in length
- 'original gimmick' (? - オリジナルギミック) can combine with GN Archer (from Arios Gundam DX Set). *Not confirmed (設定とは異なります)
- Comes with a display base, beam parts, backpack for transforming 00 Raizer, GN Drive x2
- March release, 1,785 Yen (inclusive of tax).
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Old 2008-12-05, 20:38   Link #1080
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well dunno about the mangas but in the anime i didn't see anything related whit that info so is more of speculations then anything else or if any one has seen that info some were tell me plz.
The only hint of pre-Celestial Being beam weapons on the anime was the quick application of Anti-Beam Coating on the Custom Flag.

However, the HG Flag manual and the Shell Flag profile from 00V goes into more detail into beam weapon technology. The former states that the plasma blade is a byproduct of beam saber research, and the latter pretty much confirms that the three countries were into beam weapon technology (there were even rumors that some Flags were already armed with beam weapons). Then you have the HG Ali's Enact, which explains that particular design's enlarged headcrest as a larger solar energy reciever to prepare for the inclusion of beam weaponry.
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