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Old 2009-03-23, 12:18   Link #621
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Well!! Who says he won't!!

But don't take it seriously, I mostly said it for the lulz *turnsouttobetrue*
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Old 2009-03-23, 13:23   Link #622
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Old 2009-03-23, 14:37   Link #623
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Old 2009-03-23, 17:29   Link #624
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I have the best crazy theory of you all:

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Anyways, I have a SERIOUS question for us all:

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Old 2009-03-23, 17:35   Link #625
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Old 2009-03-23, 17:39   Link #626
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Just finished to read! _/
well uhm no comments yet?
guess i'm gonna start it

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Old 2009-03-23, 17:50   Link #627
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Old 2009-03-23, 17:56   Link #628
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Just finished to read! _/
well uhm no comments yet?
guess i'm gonna start it

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Old 2009-03-23, 17:59   Link #629
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Old 2009-03-23, 18:01   Link #630
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Old 2009-03-23, 18:26   Link #631
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Old 2009-03-23, 19:06   Link #632
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Old 2009-03-23, 19:31   Link #633
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Old 2009-03-23, 19:33   Link #634
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Well I was just using that as an example. It could be more specific. If it's a lie, she can shoot it down is all I'm saying. He will need to eventually find the truth.
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Old 2009-03-23, 19:46   Link #635
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uhm let me make an example:

suppose you have a sack with a thousand balls inside it. 999 of them ar white and only 1 is black.

Battler needs to find the black ball but he cannot see it, he needs to rely on Beatrice that will tell him with a red truth if the ball that he just took from the sack is white or black. However Beatrice could refuse to state such a red truth.

If Battler now tries desperatly to find the black ball he will never find it. Simply because Beatrice will never tell him the color of the balls. He will try and try again without ever having the definitive proof that he reached his goal. trying to figure out which is the right ball is useless he cannot find it. He might even get the black ball in his hand, but if Beatrice doesn't say a thing he will end up searching again and again.

But if Battler plays as he doesn't mind to find the black ball. He will just get one and state: this is the black ball. And this is the achille's heel of Beatrice because she wants him to play. As long as he plays she doesn't need to do much, but if he just take a position and stand still Beatrice is forced to do something. She'll have to say: "that ball is white" in red truth. Then Battler only has to nonchalantly take another random ball and say "ok this is the black ball". Eventually he will get the right one.
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Old 2009-03-23, 19:55   Link #636
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uhm let me make an example:

suppose you have a sack with a thousand balls inside it. 999 of them ar white and only 1 is black.

Battler needs to find the black ball but he cannot see it, he needs to rely on Beatrice that will tell him with a red truth if the ball that he just took from the sack is white or black. However Beatrice could refuse to state such a red truth.

If Battler now tries desperatly to find the black ball he will never find it. Simply because Beatrice will never tell him the color of the balls. He will try and try again without ever having the definitive proof that he reached his goal. trying to figure out which is the right ball is useless he cannot find it. He might even get the black ball in his hand, but if Beatrice doesn't say a thing he will end up searching again and again.

But if Battler plays as he doesn't mind to find the black ball. He will just get one and state: this is the black ball. And this is the achille's heel of Beatrice because she wants him to play. As long as he plays she doesn't need to do much, but if he just take a position and stand still Beatrice is forced to do something. She'll have to say: "that ball is white" in red truth. Then Battler only has to nonchalantly take another random ball and say "ok this is the black ball". Eventually he will get the right one.
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Old 2009-03-23, 20:07   Link #637
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Old 2009-03-23, 20:18   Link #638
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Started reading the translationed chapters. One thing that jumped out at me was the music, because I don't remember the music being anything special before. But they're really good for this episode.
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Old 2009-03-23, 20:47   Link #639
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They do mention that Battler does resemble Kinzo when he was younger and that they both have the personalities of phoenixes.
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Old 2009-03-23, 21:24   Link #640
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EDIT: I can see 2 minutes into the future.

Last edited by Counter Arts; 2009-03-23 at 21:49. Reason: Got excited and said a guess 2 minutes before the characters said my guess.
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