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Old 2010-09-17, 18:56   Link #1881
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And I was kidding about Shichika being gay... Don't take it seriously
Lol, okay. I'm sorry. I should've figured as much. My bad, hehe. XP

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While I agree that the world isn't about sex all the time, I strongly disagree with your "typical male mindset" remark.

It isn't so misguided or silly to assume they were having sex. He is her sword, and she can do with him as she pleases. He pretty much commited his whole being to her in the 1st episode.

Being in an island also doesn't mean you can't be without lust. He may not know the concept of sex, but surely he must have urges - it's in our genes to be instinctively sexual beings. He may be innocent, and he may be used to seeing a woman naked (his sister), but seeing a completely different woman naked, and being at the ridiculous proximity the two were (and face it, even if -he- doesn't know the boundaries or what that sort of intimacy entails, she does), one can't help but assume that they were having sex, even if there was no romantic relationship.
I agree with some of what you said, as some of it is true. But... I don't know. I guess I'm one of those types of people who only makes speculations based on what I am actually shown or told. When I watch an anime (or any show/movie, or play any video games, or read any book) unless it is DISTINCTLY shown and/or stated by the narrator that a certain event occurred, I don't make assumptions of that nature.

But everyone's different, and I often forget that, so I'm sorry for my "male mindset" comment.
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Old 2010-09-17, 22:21   Link #1882
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I'm not really seeing it here, although I guess it's possible. But I once watched an anime where the main couple did not so much as kiss on screen, yet the girl got pregnant anyway
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Old 2010-09-18, 13:45   Link #1883
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@Kismet-chan lol I never forgot that he grew up on a island his whole life

But I can't stop laughin' how someone said is Nanami could have possible teach him about sex lol INCEST! incest? more like Wincest!

Note: Wiki says Pengin is a chick WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Old 2010-09-18, 17:38   Link #1884
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@Kismet-chan lol I never forgot that he grew up on a island his whole life

But I can't stop laughin' how someone said is Nanami could have possible teach him about sex lol INCEST! incest? more like Wincest!

Note: Wiki says Pengin is a chick WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Lol, I didn't mean incest! I meant like... Y'know, just telling him about "what goes where" and "what part is what". Like Sex Ed in high school or something. XDDD

And omg, Penguin is a girl?! Really? Wtf, how? Epic typo?!
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Old 2010-09-18, 18:05   Link #1885
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Lol, I didn't mean incest! I meant like... Y'know, just telling him about "what goes where" and "what part is what". Like Sex Ed in high school or something. XDDD

And omg, Penguin is a girl?! Really? Wtf, how? Epic typo?!
Oh, wellllllll... ..The factor remains: WINCEST

I don't know I just looked on Wikipedia and it says he is a she :O I sure hope it is a typo!
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Old 2010-09-18, 21:30   Link #1886
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Growing up on an island with only a father and a sister (and a mother, maybe??) doesn't mean you won't learn about of sex. The island's animals will become excellent real life teachers every mating season.
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Old 2010-09-19, 01:54   Link #1887
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I never really said he wouldn't learn anything of sex. I just said that I doubted it. It's very likely that Nanami taught him (in a Sex Ed way, NOT an incestuous way XD), since she taught him a lot of other things. If not her, then perhaps their father. The main thing I was getting at was that unless the narrator says something like,"They were having sex", or if one of the characters themselves says something such as, "When we made love that night", then I never ever would assume they were having sex. If it is not pointed out in direct dialogue or narration, then as far as I know, it did not happen/is not happening. I assumed that was how most people processed basic story-telling. Guess I was wrong. XD
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Old 2010-09-19, 11:18   Link #1888
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Well, you were wrong. It would just seem natural to me. Animals also have sex without ever having sex ed, it's not like our species would have died without sex ed. And at least Togame would probably know about it. But yeah, it seems that I was mislead by that intimacy. I realized that they didn't actually showed us sex, but then which anime actually does? I don't know if you have watched Clannad for example.
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Old 2010-09-19, 13:13   Link #1889
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Well, you were wrong. It would just seem natural to me. Animals also have sex without ever having sex ed, it's not like our species would have died without sex ed. And at least Togame would probably know about it. But yeah, it seems that I was mislead by that intimacy. I realized that they didn't actually showed us sex, but then which anime actually does? I don't know if you have watched Clannad for example.
Lol, now you're making it sound like I'm retarded or something. We know what animals do out of nature, and no one ever said humans would've died without sex ed or anything relatively like that. And Clannad is an almost entirely different case because it was based off of a hentai game, so we KNOW sex is going on in there (well, that is, if you already KNEW it was based on an H-game; some people don't/did not). Therefore, it's not the best example here. Whether Shichika has extensive knowledge of reproduction or not wasn't the main focus of my statements anyway.

So all of that is besides the point. Katanagatari is not based off of some unclassy, mediocre H-game. Togame and Shichika are definitely not having sex and are NOT going to have sex anytime soon.

We have determined this now, so that should be the end of that.
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Old 2010-09-19, 15:42   Link #1890
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Lol, now you're making it sound like I'm retarded or something. We know what animals do out of nature, and no one ever said humans would've died without sex ed or anything relatively like that. And Clannad is an almost entirely different case because it was based off of a hentai game, so we KNOW sex is going on in there (well, that is, if you already KNEW it was based on an H-game; some people don't/did not). Therefore, it's not the best example here. Whether Shichika has extensive knowledge of reproduction or not wasn't the main focus of my statements anyway.
Just a small correction, Kismet-chan, Clannad is NOT a H-GAME, but actually a visual novel without sexual content, and the story, although a little naive is not mediocre.

The fact that Key produces H-games does not mean that all their products are H-Games.

Now that people mention clannad, I couldn't help but be reminded of a certain scene :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_3lj48RwI

So yeah... We need someone to tell us crystal clear, precisely that!!

Otherwise we'll never know... Even if they're married
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Old 2010-09-19, 15:46   Link #1891
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People discussing Shichika's Goku-like sexual knowledge?

lol
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Old 2010-09-19, 17:26   Link #1892
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I assumed that was how most people processed basic story-telling.
When Philip Pullman was asked once if Will and Lyra had had sex towards the end of The Amber Spyglass, he simply replied that he didn't know because he "felt they wanted to be alone" at that point. So in general, absence of evidence should not be considered evidence of absence - all we can do is look for signs and make our own conclusions. In the case of Shichika and Togame, though, I personally doubt it so far.
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Old 2010-09-19, 20:19   Link #1893
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Lol people! people! Does it really matter if they fucked or not? If they did, well then all I could say is: "I wish I saw it." If not, well hopefully they will. lol hopefully.
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Old 2010-09-19, 20:42   Link #1894
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Just a small correction, Kismet-chan, Clannad is NOT a H-GAME, but actually a visual novel without sexual content...
I stand corrected.

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Lol people! people! Does it really matter if they fucked or not? If they did, well then all I could say is: "I wish I saw it." If not, well hopefully they will. lol hopefully.
I know, right? It's like, who cares?

Besides, if they DID have sex, Togame would probably die anyway since she boasts about how fragile she is all the time. Shichika would snap her poor, tiny little body in two with his superhuman strength. (And just in-case someone missed it, that was a joke, people.)
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Old 2010-09-19, 20:48   Link #1895
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Besides, if they DID have sex, Togame would probably die anyway since she boasts about how fragile she is all the time. Shichika would snap her poor, tiny little body in two with his superhuman strength. (And just in-case someone missed it, that was a joke, people.)
That sounds hot. ( ‿)
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Old 2010-09-19, 23:10   Link #1896
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I stand corrected.



I know, right? It's like, who cares?

Besides, if they DID have sex, Togame would probably die anyway since she boasts about how fragile she is all the time. Shichika would snap her poor, tiny little body in two with his superhuman strength. (And just in-case someone missed it, that was a joke, people.)


lol I would mind seeing that though
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Old 2010-09-19, 23:24   Link #1897
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I'd actually kinda wanna see that, too. XD
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Old 2010-09-20, 04:30   Link #1898
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This thread is about Pullman and Maeda now?
Suddenly feels a lot less like my cup of tea. But I shall allow my humble self to refrain from trolling for reactions.

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Clannad is NOT a H-GAME, but actually a visual novel without sexual content, and the story, although a little naive is not mediocre.
Isn't there a spinoff release? Like, a bonus novel which does have sexual content?

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So in general, absence of evidence should not be considered evidence of absence
Or even better, it does not matter in the context of the story.
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Old 2010-09-20, 10:02   Link #1899
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Isn't there a spinoff release? Like, a bonus novel which does have sexual content
Yeah but it has nothing to do with the original game, just a "what-if" from Clannad.
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Old 2010-09-21, 04:10   Link #1900
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But back to Shichika pwning Togame's little body with his massive manliness... XDDD
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