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Old 2009-05-01, 16:00   Link #301
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Yeah, but what happens when she gets tired of you? Claudia is not a person to be trusted since she's in that line of work.
He still have Ein to mess around with, and knowing Ein she won't retaliate and even offer herself to Zwei. Series is progressing as intended.

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Old 2009-05-01, 16:08   Link #302
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He still have Ein to mess around with, and knowing Ein she won't retaliate and even offer herself to Zwei. Series is progressing as intended.

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Well there can always be a fanfic in which...

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Old 2009-05-01, 16:29   Link #303
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OH sweet nibblets, THAT would be awesome .
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Old 2009-05-01, 16:43   Link #304
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OH sweet nibblets, THAT would be awesome .
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Old 2009-05-01, 16:47   Link #305
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LOL, I can TOTALLY see that happening !
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Old 2009-05-01, 20:12   Link #306
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Interesting scenario, except that Zwei dies...

Oh well, something to keep in mind if I do write about Phantom.
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Old 2009-05-02, 01:21   Link #307
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I do mind if all the assassin (Ein, Zwei and Drei) are all dead, no suvive..., and the Inferno's downfall may interesting...
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Old 2009-05-02, 02:10   Link #308
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Interesting scenario, except that Zwei dies...

Oh well, something to keep in mind if I do write about Phantom.
Well no one said he had to live and I was keeping Claudia in character.

If you're climbing up the hierachy, you're not going to keep the janitor around as a boyfriend. Use him and toss him.


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I do mind if all the assassin (Ein, Zwei and Drei) are all dead, no suvive..., and the Inferno's downfall may interesting...
Nah, to kill Inferno you'd have to kill off Scythe Master and delete his data. Inferno's power stems from the use of the super assasins as a tool to coerce mafias into doing their bidding. If SM is alive and working for Inferno, he can always manufacture another Phantom.
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Old 2009-05-02, 02:38   Link #309
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Nah, to kill Inferno you'd have to kill off Scythe Master and delete his data. Inferno's power stems from the use of the super assasins as a tool to coerce mafias into doing their bidding. If SM is alive and working for Inferno, he can always manufacture another Phantom.
this mean SM possible a main antagonist of the series rather than any boss leader within Inferno...

BTW, is there any undercovers inside the organisation, this will remind me the 'Infernal Affair'.
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Old 2009-05-02, 02:53   Link #310
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Well no one said he had to live and I was keeping Claudia in character.

If you're climbing up the hierachy, you're not going to keep the janitor around as a boyfriend. Use him and toss him.
Thanks for that. The Claudia/Zwei pairing does have its moments. Like I said, maybe I'll write a fanfic about them.
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Old 2009-05-02, 02:55   Link #311
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Thanks for reminding me of that. I need to finish watching episode 19 of G13...
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Old 2009-05-03, 01:16   Link #312
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Oh god Claudia, you were the star of this episode.
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And for the next episode...
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Old 2009-05-03, 13:37   Link #313
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the thing about the preview is, Ein says that they're just tools. but you can clearly see Claudia saying that they aren't tools. Ein is leaving the "tool" stage and is probably starting to see for herself what's she's doing, while Zwei is dropping down to the stage where he doesn't care what he's doing. this transformation makes the show very interesting to watch.

plus the gregorian chant type song is like this show's Salva Nos/Canta Per Me..
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Old 2009-05-03, 13:51   Link #314
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the thing about the preview is, Ein says that they're just tools. but you can clearly see Claudia saying that they aren't tools. Ein is leaving the "tool" stage and is probably starting to see for herself what's she's doing, while Zwei is dropping down to the stage where he doesn't care what he's doing. this transformation makes the show very interesting to watch.

plus the gregorian chant type song is like this show's Salva Nos/Canta Per Me..

That's because Claudia is lying and Ein is being realistic. Those 2 (Ein and Zwei) are a means to an end only. They cease being tools when they develop the will to rebel. Zwei is aware and goes into a pseudo-fugue state which is not good. Ein is becoming more aware and making baby steps which is good. That Mongolia travel booklet was a good sign.

Claudia is manipulating Zwei for her own reasons so she has to separate Zwei from Ein and the best way to do this is thru sex.
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Old 2009-05-03, 19:02   Link #315
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About episode 5, I remember this scene. In the game Zwei and Claudia...

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That means we will have some of Claudia's Endings instead? I hope not. I want to see Ein's ending animated!

Claudia also mencioned Ricardo. I don't remember very well about her scenario, but If i'm not mistake that was the name of...

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Claudia can be a b*tch, but she is a very hot b*tch! And has brains, to boot!!

Other thing. After that scene at Claudia's house...

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Maybe they will make this important scene what will lead to Game Chapter 02 later?

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Old 2009-05-03, 22:14   Link #316
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This could be like Kanon in which all the endings are mixed together as the story progresses with an overall 1 main path and sacrifices with the 2nd dominant path due to conflicting outcomes to get to the main path's ending. They have to tell a story that gives an adequate and logical ending for Ein, Zwei, Drei, and Claudia so far imo.
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Old 2009-05-04, 02:39   Link #317
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I was expecting to be lolbeetrained when checking this anime, aside from the unrealistic gunfight the serie is pretty good.
I was surprise to see mother an son get assassinated as well as the insidious manipulation from Claudia in a 15+ show.
Claudia seems to try to take control of Zwei in order to have an edge in her struggle for power with the guy monitoring Ein, it s been mentioned earlier but i can totally see both phantom fighting against eachother, the fact that Ein took too long to start sniping the thugs with her supperior standing next to her suggest that he purposly asked her to wait before starting sniping.
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Old 2009-05-04, 04:22   Link #318
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Old 2009-05-04, 16:18   Link #319
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Episode 5 did a perfect job of showing the brutality of the underworld. No one is spared not women and not children and the worst thing Inferno could have done was killed his family but leave him alive that is a fate worse than his own death.

I thought the scenes with Ein sitting waiting for Zwei to return from Claudia's was well done. Her head kept turning towards the door waiting for him to return and in that dark room it was shown exactly what Ein has which is nothing outside the mission and orders.

This episode was also the final spiral of Zwei into emotionless, so i will only refer to him as Zwei now since i think he has completed his transformation by killing a defenseless child and woman. The scene was disturbing but a must for Zwei's character development.

It was plainly obvious to me what Claudia was up to since she first laid eyes on Zwei. Claudia is intrigued by Zwei a innocent young man whose not so bad looking turned killer and obeys orders. It could be she has a thing for young boys and what she likes to do is exert her power over them. I have no doubt that they slept together but was it an order from Claudia or did Zwei instincts take over. Its no unusual for people in Claudia's position to use people like Zwei for their own personal pleasure. I also have a feeling that Claudia is using her womanly charms to pull Zwei closer to her and earn her trust. Imagine if a split in Inferno happened, with Ein one side and Zwei on the other. When orgainzations get the size that Inferno is getting two sometimes different factions splinter off and fight for power. There is much to Claudia than a pretty face a nice rack and healthy sexual appetite (All of which i love btw). She smart motivated and is patient i would not be surprised if we saw her go for some type of power grab later and i would not be surprised to see her continue to use Zwei for her needs bringing him closer to her by assigning him missions and being physical with him its the perfect tactic if you want to lure someone to your side.
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Old 2009-05-06, 08:28   Link #320
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FUNimation has begun streaming the first four episodes. A new episode will debut each week as it airs in Japan. Each episode will be high-quality, free, with the original Japanese dialogue accompanied by professionally created English subtitles and will stream via Train produced the series based on Nitroplus' videogame PHANTOM OF INFERNO. Written by Gen Urobuchi (BLASSREITER), the story centers around a mysterious organization called Inferno and its "Phantom," the organization's most elite assassin. This assassin's true identity is compromised by an unwitting witness. Witnesses are usually killed but this witness is brainwashed into become Inferno's newest assassin and enters a world of intrigue and violenc

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anyway streaming suck and i doubt anyone with a clue would use streaming unless you are totally lazy.
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