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Old 2009-07-12, 10:38   Link #761
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Ah… I was really enjoying this up to the end of episode 9. The ending was far too convenient. I wish they would have taken another episode or two to develop it more believably. Episode 10 didn’t help things either, with Reiji taking his sweet freaking time to shoot at Scythe Master when he clearly had an opening… just slowly walking towards him… was a bit ridiculous. The fact that he survived all those gun shots and being drowned (it sure as hell seemed he like he sunk really far after being shot), is also ridiculous. And since Ein survived the shot to chest too… it makes it even worse. Meh… 11-14 were alright, but I don’t care for one major plot development; Reiji deciding to train the new girl. It just doesn’t make much sense. Oh well, I’ll continue watching it anyway.
Agree with most of this especially the scythe master-reiji bit and the gunshot-drowning bits.
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Old 2009-07-12, 10:52   Link #762
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unexpectedly pretty good

don't know why but I really like - Inspired Ein - Ich beten

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Old 2009-07-12, 11:20   Link #763
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Ein's VA Ayahi Takagaki is a good singer, liked her singing voice ever since she showed it off seriously in the one Special A episode. She's currently in the seiyuu group Sphere which did the OP for Hatsukoi Limited and now Sora no Manimani. She has also done a few more OP/EDs, another recent one being Fight Ippatsu! Jūden-chan!! which she sings with Kaori Fukuhara.

Hash/Karou Choujo would know more! Crazy Darkness is really nice btw.
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Old 2009-07-12, 13:09   Link #764
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Wow...I didn't expect that for an end haha XD

ep 15
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Old 2009-07-12, 13:39   Link #765
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Wow...I didn't expect that for an end haha XD

ep 15
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was definitely intentional, would explain the "mission completed"...and yes i love the person's "new look".
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Old 2009-07-12, 13:42   Link #766
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Responsible? If he didn't get her involved she would be either killed or live a life of prostitution and besides I think we will all hate Cal later on.
But you see, by not getting involved it wouldnt be his problem. Its kinda like taking a stray cat home.


Whoever Cal turns out to be will be 100% Reiji's fault, whether Reiji himself intended it or not. At this point, Reiji himself knows that, which is why I feel he has a duty to protect her, even if it is from Ein.

Anyone would want to avenge someone so close to them. Reiji has turned into an enabler, and Ein, who shouldve known better by now, is out assassinating people and any witnesses(good or bad) that would bring forth the hatred of people like Cal.

So yes, Reiji needs to prioritize Cal over Ein. Nothing bad should happen to her.
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Old 2009-07-12, 14:54   Link #767
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But you see, by not getting involved it wouldnt be his problem. Its kinda like taking a stray cat home.


Whoever Cal turns out to be will be 100% Reiji's fault, whether Reiji himself intended it or not. At this point, Reiji himself knows that, which is why I feel he has a duty to protect her, even if it is from Ein.

Anyone would want to avenge someone so close to them. Reiji has turned into an enabler, and Ein, who shouldve known better by now, is out assassinating people and any witnesses(good or bad) that would bring forth the hatred of people like Cal.

So yes, Reiji needs to prioritize Cal over Ein. Nothing bad should happen to her.
Why would it be 100% Reiji's fault? First of all no one is ever at 100% fault. It's not like she's his doll or something, he doesn't have absolute control over her and she is the one that needs to make her own decisions in the end. She decided to take revenge for her "sister" so whatever happens now it's neither of Reiji's fault since she was the one that took the money and made the decision to avenger her, she should know the consequences. Reiji has a stronger bond with Ein, she was the one that trained him and he lived with her when he had no memories and no one to rely on, similar to Cal and her "sister" relationship I guess? Nothing Bad should happen to her? Of course bad things will happen to her, she choose revenge so bad things are bound to happen to her and Reiji will be there for her unless he decides to choose Ein over her.
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Old 2009-07-12, 15:30   Link #768
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Um, Reiji is enabling her anger to manifest itself and providing her with the ability to carry it out and hasnt done anything substantial to try and sooth it to this point.

If your arguing that noone is 100% at fault, that is vague enough to be true, as nothing is 100% in this world, but there are times when 100% is the consensus.

Are you trying to argue that because Ein has come back, and Reiji might meet her again, that he should abandon all responsibilities he has accumalated to this point in order to try to make off with her once again?

Now, if that had worked the first time he tried it, I wouldve liked it happening.

Let me rephrase one thing I suppose, Reiji should not let anything bad happen to her.

My argument isnt who I like or Id prefer with Reiji, I like both of them, my argument is that Reiji should have a sense responsibility to whatever happens to Cal because of him, and make sure she is protected before he messes with Ein again.

If he messes with Ein and it ends up turning Cal into some monster or something, or it ends with her getting killed or something. I am totally faulting Reiji for that.

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Of course bad things will happen to her, she choose revenge so bad things are bound to happen to her and Reiji will be there for her unless he decides to choose Ein over her.
Theres what im trying to say, if it comes to a decision like that, it should be Cal, even if he likes Ein more.

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Old 2009-07-12, 16:38   Link #769
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Theres what im trying to say, if it comes to a decision like that, it should be Cal, even if he likes Ein more.
That's only your opinion. Since Cal arrived she only brought trouble for Reiji. Since I prefer Ein over Cal anytime I guess that's why we have different opinions.
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Old 2009-07-12, 17:05   Link #770
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Good episode 15 !

Cal is so energetic and brillant !
Like i thought Elen is back and she's always Scythe's toy ...
Dunno how McCunnen etc ... will be able to survive in the fight . But it seems there'll be some bloods and Claudia will be alive .
(Damn , Elen's shoots remind me of "Wanted" but less far away .)
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Old 2009-07-12, 20:26   Link #771
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Spoiler for Episode 15:


Agh! Scythe must die!!
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Old 2009-07-12, 21:56   Link #772
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Phantom will polarize the fandom into Ein and Cal camps

It is inevitable and probably intended by Nitroplus to be this way.

But I welcome this.
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Old 2009-07-12, 23:09   Link #773
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The only things that's worth mentioning about the episode is that SM is the most annoying character of the series and
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With Cal into the show, does anyone else feel that the writers loved Leon when they were younger
Actually, they based her character on the movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Inferno#Trivia
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Phantom will polarize the fandom into Ein and Cal camps

It is inevitable and probably intended by Nitroplus to be this way.

But I welcome this.
Indeed.
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Old 2009-07-12, 23:28   Link #774
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yea i can't take it how Elen's so devoted to her master T__T
and i don't think Reiji's gana make Cal into someone like him or Elen :/ since her situation is slightly different. but as of at the moment >.< elen's behavior pissed me off >.>
I'd rather have Cal with Reiji (but how old is she? rofl xD)
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Old 2009-07-13, 00:16   Link #775
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It's like an abusive relationship. Elen/Ein just does not know how to get away from it, with the SM that is.

So what does a victim in an abusive relationship think? Oh well, she is very much damaged goods right now. Let's hope Cal does not turn out the same way.
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Old 2009-07-13, 01:18   Link #776
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Ein should have stayed dead I would have liked her character far more that way.
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Old 2009-07-13, 02:20   Link #777
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So Ein is back I don't know it that is a good thing or bad thing. Episode it self was decent especially at the end. I'm having a bad feeling here, I think Cal is not going to be too happy learning about Ein, by the way the preview was presented.
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Old 2009-07-13, 02:31   Link #778
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wow i was freaking going to drop this after seeing first ep, didn't continue watching until today... and im glad i chose to do it cause holy shit it got good. now to see development from ep 10 onwards..
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Old 2009-07-13, 07:31   Link #779
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yea i can't take it how Elen's so devoted to her master T__T
and i don't think Reiji's gana make Cal into someone like him or Elen :/ since her situation is slightly different. but as of at the moment >.< elen's behavior pissed me off >.>
I'd rather have Cal with Reiji (but how old is she? rofl xD)
In the novel I believe she was two years younger than Reiji, she is older than she looks anywho.
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Old 2009-07-13, 07:48   Link #780
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I've grown fond of Cal but I still like Ein. Argh, I don't mind if Zwei end up either of them at this rate, but I'm slightly leaning towards Cal.
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