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Old 2009-01-10, 21:53   Link #861
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I don't get it anymore...just because one's life focus isn't/wasn't romance, he/she isn't/wasn't capable of loving someone else romantically at all?
Not necessarily, but it's possible.
Anyway, that's not what I was saying here. There's a difference between romantic love not being essential to someone's life and them being aromantic.
Lelouch clearly had other things on his mind. And I, personally, simpy see no need for romance there, which is why I liked the fact that R2 didn't go into it too deeply.

Hm... now that I think of it, I really like talking about Rivalz - but maybe I'll spare you. xD
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Old 2009-01-10, 22:01   Link #862
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@Dec4: But thinking that Lelouch could be sentimentaly immature and that this affected his capability to understand his feelings and those of the people around him has to do with romance, I guess.

about your reply to Eliarine, I thought that in the post she quoted you were meaning 'someone who cares enough' referring to 'care enough about the relationship between Kallen and Lelouch'. Am I right?

btw.. Rivalz is totally hot, he gots a motorbike XD
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Old 2009-01-10, 22:01   Link #863
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NO. simple and elegant reply.



Hey, lol, we can't always discuss what you want. XD {not that i want as well, but just leaving the option open, how the hell Rivalz got in here anyway? Was it my example? |D}
Good, then let's start the Rivalz discussion.
He isn't asexual, right?
Any chances he may get his Milly in the upcoming last PD?


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@Dec4: But thinking that Lelouch could be sentimentaly immature and that this affected his capability to understand his feelings and those of the people around him has to do with romance, I guess.

about your reply to Eliarine, I thought that in the post she quoted you were meaning 'someone who cares enough' referring to 'care enough about the relationship between Kallen and Lelouch'. Am I right?

btw.. Rivalz is totally hot, he gots a motorbike XD
I think that Lelouch's choice to shrug off any romantic feelings he may have had was quite in character.
But I am still enjoying his subtle emo-ness when it came to *you know who I mean*.
Yepp, I said "care" not "smart".
CARE.
BTW I am not happy with that @#%##$%# accusation and take it as an insult.
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Old 2009-01-10, 22:05   Link #864
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I root for him. He might be ugly and childish but he's generous enough to give Milly the genuine love that someone that has been forced all her life long to hide her real feelings will find refreshing.
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Old 2009-01-10, 22:08   Link #865
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Good, then let's start the Rivalz discussion.
He isn't asexual, right?
Who knows... but I doubt it. xD

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Any chances he may get his Milly in the upcoming last PD?
I'd like that.
Milly never showed much interest in him, but he's a great guy, and there simply isn't anyone else I could imagine getting together with her.
...And I don't think he's ugly. Only if you compare him to Lelouch. xD
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Old 2009-01-10, 22:27   Link #866
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Good, then let's start the Rivalz discussion.
He isn't asexual, right?
Any chances he may get his Milly in the upcoming last PD?
Same chances as Kagino + CCTamaki. Answer: NAH.
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Old 2009-01-11, 08:01   Link #867
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Yepp, I said "care" not "smart".
CARE.
BTW I am not happy with that @#%##$%# accusation and take it as an insult.
I am not trying to insult you, but this is what I get from your posts: if you care about Lelouch's feelings towards Kallen enough, you'll reach the conclusion that he loved her back. And I find this insulting for those of us who didn't reach that conclusion.
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Old 2009-01-11, 10:10   Link #868
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I am not trying to insult you, but this is what I get from your posts: if you care about Lelouch's feelings towards Kallen enough, you'll reach the conclusion that he loved her back. And I find this insulting for those of us who didn't reach that conclusion.
Well, maybe it's time to say it. I mean, to calm down. I don't agree with some people opinions, and it happens that I feel what you feel, but I thought about it and look at the other side.

- If you believe that lelouch loved kallen and think that the infos from the side materials are real proofs about lelouch's feelings, then you doesn't understand when someone says that he/she doesn't think that it's that clear. So you feel annoyed and think the others just deny it for the sake of being annoying.

- On the other sides (shirlulu, cluclu etc.), we see things differently and we do the same mistakes. I mean, "seeing the kalulu fans talking as if lelouch's feelings were a fact/canon" annoys us because we have another opinion about the side materials.

At this point, what to do? Since no one will change their perspective, we should let the people talk and only grumble when one of us (the fandom as a whole) try to force his/her opinions on other people. And so, we should avoid some bad wording that makes people think that for instance "the others are not smart enough to understand it". And also, to avoid the sarcastic comments.

It's a new year, try to take good resolutions.
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Old 2009-01-11, 10:17   Link #869
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Seconded for epic truth Narona! When you watch a show you're going to see what you want to see. For me I see Kalulu, but I understand why some people don't think Kalulu has any base what-so-ever.

Example: I see Lelouch pushing Kallen away near the end of R2 because she was one person he couldn't afford to lose while people from the CluClu fandom will say that while he pushed her away to save her, he kept C.C. close because she was more important to him/needed by him.

In the end, the I feel the shipping war is kind of dead and whatever people believe now isn't going to be changed with words.
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Old 2009-01-11, 11:03   Link #870
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Well, maybe it's time to say it. I mean, to calm down. I don't agree with some people opinions, and it happens that I feel what you feel, but I thought about it and look at the other side.

- If you believe that lelouch loved kallen and think that the infos from the side materials are real proofs about lelouch's feelings, then you doesn't understand when someone says that he/she doesn't think that it's that clear. So you feel annoyed and think the others just deny it for the sake of being annoying.

- On the other sides (shirlulu, cluclu etc.), we see things differently and we do the same mistakes. I mean, "seeing the kalulu fans talking as if lelouch's feelings were a fact/canon" annoys us because we have another opinion about the side materials.

At this point, what to do? Since no one will change their perspective, we should let the people talk and only grumble when one of us (the fandom as a whole) try to force his/her opinions on other people. And so, we should avoid some bad wording that makes people think that for instance "the others are not smart enough to understand it". And also, to avoid the sarcastic comments.

It's a new year, try to take good resolutions.
Yes, and that's completely true.

Though, it would be nice if people were more open to other's interpretations of the show...it's an interpretation, everybody sees things differently. If anything, i see lulu loving shirley, kallen, and c.c. And please, stop the bashing!(not you narona, i mean people on this thread in general) It's just a point of view, and it's an anime, no need to get all worked up.

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Old 2009-01-11, 11:54   Link #871
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Well, maybe it's time to say it. I mean, to calm down. I don't agree with some people opinions, and it happens that I feel what you feel, but I thought about it and look at the other side.

- If you believe that lelouch loved kallen and think that the infos from the side materials are real proofs about lelouch's feelings, then you doesn't understand when someone says that he/she doesn't think that it's that clear. So you feel annoyed and think the others just deny it for the sake of being annoying.

- On the other sides (shirlulu, cluclu etc.), we see things differently and we do the same mistakes. I mean, "seeing the kalulu fans talking as if lelouch's feelings were a fact/canon" annoys us because we have another opinion about the side materials.

At this point, what to do? Since no one will change their perspective, we should let the people talk and only grumble when one of us (the fandom as a whole) try to force his/her opinions on other people. And so, we should avoid some bad wording that makes people think that for instance "the others are not smart enough to understand it". And also, to avoid the sarcastic comments.

It's a new year, try to take good resolutions.
Fair enough and this whole thingie, brings us to the point::
When it comes to Lelouch, there is NO SUCH THING AS CRYSTAL CLEAR concerning his romantic feelings. And this is period.
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Old 2009-01-11, 11:59   Link #872
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Fair enough and this whole thingie, brings us to the point::
When it comes to Lelouch, there is NO SUCH THING AS CRYSTAL CLEAR concerning his romantic feelings. And this is period.
I think the writers killed Lelouch to avoid these shipping wars...And apparently it had the opposite effect.
But I rather have a stalemate than lose entirely, after watching True Tears.
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Old 2009-01-11, 12:07   Link #873
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I think the writers killed Lelouch to avoid these shipping wars...And apparently it had the opposite effect.
But I rather have a stalemate than lose entirely, after watching True Tears.
I'm still confused, people said that in a certain magazine or book thing, it said lulu was dead for good? Is this a "trustworthy" source? Like, if it's said in this magazine/book, there's no way for them to bring back lulu? or they won't?
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Btw, you guys, a friend form LJ told me that in Complete Best, there are some kind of poems or something? That might actually be related to romance-something?
Anyone can confirm this for me?
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Old 2009-01-11, 12:57   Link #875
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Btw, you guys, a friend form LJ told me that in Complete Best, there are some kind of poems or something? That might actually be related to romance-something?
Anyone can confirm this for me?
Kallen's...
Aishiteru...
/facepalm
...gumline...
More to come later.
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Old 2009-01-11, 13:10   Link #876
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Kallen's...
Aishiteru...
/facepalm
...gumline...
More to come later.
Oh, that she would follow Lulu everywhere if she told her the "i love you" line? That's it?
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Old 2009-01-11, 13:33   Link #877
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Oh, that she would follow Lulu everywhere if she told her the "i love you" line? That's it?
To hell even, as it says in a poem dedicated to Lelouch.
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Old 2009-01-11, 13:51   Link #878
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To hell even, as it says in a poem dedicated to Lelouch.
where is this poem? and what's it from?
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Old 2009-01-11, 13:54   Link #879
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Ok it's getting Nasty.
Kallen loved lelouch.
lelouch loved Kallen.

This is the only truth, okay ?
Now let's get back to Arthur and Clovis.

*off*

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To hell even, as it says in a poem dedicated to Lelouch.
...MWAHAHAHAHAHA !

YOU made my day, dear Blotty. So finally, our way to understand Kallen wasn't wrong, Kallen isn't Kallen sue, but Kallen Kozuki. Kalulu is the truth !

BTW I just saw some people talking about Rivalz and Milly...I loved their reunion after the Fleija launch, but it seems Milly really saw him as a kind of little brother (her caring look on him the turn after that)
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To hell even, as it says in a poem dedicated to Lelouch.
Wow, i guess this poem could take place in two epis as well. One in 19, like literally in hell {lulz} and the other in 22, like "hell" that Lulu would create. Damn you Lelouch, was it THAT difficult to reply? Ah, hard to pretend to be something else than who you really are.
Man, i gotta say, Kallen got a magnificent-scary love there.
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