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Old 2011-02-16, 11:45   Link #741
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How did she pull that off!?!?!?
Just a joke. Seriously though, HA was the result of Angra Mainyu's power being used in a... weird way.
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Old 2011-02-16, 12:08   Link #742
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Ah, that fits better with what I know of it.
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Old 2011-02-16, 21:19   Link #743
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What happens to her post UBW/Fate anyway? I read somewhere (lantz I think) that she dies of organ failure or something. Is that fanon or canon?
Sounds fanon to me. I don't remember anything from Nasu or Type-Moon to that effect.
Yeah, it's pure fanon. In fact, it's not even that, because I can't think of ever seeing it as a serious suggestion before....

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I've always wondered why Nasu keeps his Sakura fan base on edge each time he brings an update. Would it kill him if he just told them what happens to her?
Well, yeah....

It's probably a case of him not wanting to say anything just in case he decides to write a sequel at some point, though. Which is fucking infuriating but, still....

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I think her ambigiuous fate in those two routes is somewhat intentional to further the rage. I think it's quite clever in a way.
Possibly. I wouldn't call it "clever", though, because it certainly does not endear me to Nasu one bit, and nor does it make me more likely to give him money (quite the opposite, in fact...).

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Or maybe Nasu is just too lazy to explain what happens to Sakura post-Fate and UBW, and instead leaves it to the imaginations of the fans.
That's possible, but given that he was willing to say what happens to Shinji post-UBW, if that's his reasoning I'd be seriously pissed at him.

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Actually I think it's because of Type-Moon's position that Heaven's Feel is the canon route, so the other two don't really matter in terms of future stories...
Nah, as much as I'd like this to be true, it simply isn't. None of the routes are officially "canon".
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Old 2011-02-16, 21:34   Link #744
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That's possible, but given that he was willing to say what happens to Shinji post-UBW, if that's his reasoning I'd be seriously pissed at him.
In fairness, though, Shinji's fate is only implied at best post-UBW; all we're told by Shirou is that Shinji is starting to go back to his "old self" and that he's changing for the better. And even then, that's shaky. Even if Shirou says Shinji is fine now, it doesn't mean he'll always be fine.
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Old 2011-02-16, 21:50   Link #745
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In fairness, though, Shinji's fate is only implied at best post-UBW; all we're told by Shirou is that Shinji is starting to go back to his "old self" and that he's changing for the better. And even then, that's shaky. Even if Shirou says Shinji is fine now, it doesn't mean he'll always be fine.
No, Nasu actually answered that in his most recent Q&A (in the most recent Side Material book). He stated that Shinji will live normally post-UBW, still being himself.
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Old 2011-02-16, 21:52   Link #746
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No, Nasu actually answered that in his most recent Q&A (in the most recent Side Material book). He stated that Shinji will live normally post-UBW, still being himself.
Huh, did he? I never read that. Ah, well. That's what I get for not having access to the side material.

Still, IMO I think it's a plus that we never really know for sure in UBW or Fate canon what happens to Sakura. It paves the way for fanfiction dealing with what could have happened to her after the War. I personally think it would be interesting to write a fic about that, with all the possibilities.
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Old 2011-02-16, 21:55   Link #747
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No, Nasu actually answered that in his most recent Q&A (in the most recent Side Material book). He stated that Shinji will live normally post-UBW, still being himself.
Happen to have a link to a source? Not saying you're wrong or anything, but anyone can claim anything without a source.
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Old 2011-02-16, 22:44   Link #748
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Still, IMO I think it's a plus that we never really know for sure in UBW or Fate canon what happens to Sakura. It paves the way for fanfiction dealing with what could have happened to her after the War. I personally think it would be interesting to write a fic about that, with all the possibilities.
Well, that would perhaps be true, if it wasn't for the fact that the majority of fanfic writers seemingly can't be fucked to deal with it, and thus just ignore her entirely.

You're right that not knowing gives a lot of scope for potential fanfics on the subject, but it also leaves fanfic writers in a situation where they feel they have to either focus on her or ignore her entirely, and the majority choose the second.

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Happen to have a link to a source? Not saying you're wrong or anything, but anyone can claim anything without a source.
It's in Japanese, so not really, no. It's in the newest Side Material book, though, if you're that bothered (and can read Japanese...), in the Q&A section. There's probably a torrent of it floating around somewhere.

It was translated on Beast's Lair by someone who is reliable, though, and in theory I could find the quote, if I could be bothered to sift through 200-odd pages of crap to find it.

But, anyway, you're free to believe it nor not, but it's not something I got from TM wiki or any similarly unrelaible source, it comes directly from someone who knows what they're talking about.
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Old 2011-02-17, 20:37   Link #749
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I think her ambigiuous fate in those two routes is somewhat intentional to further the rage. I think it's quite clever in a way.
It's good for business because it'll keep those people interested...maybe.

He has a thing about bringing in pieces of info about characters in the oddest places. He even uses the April Fool's jokes to add flavor (even to people like Shinji).

But not with Sakura really. He plays on the jealousy/yandere/envious/Dark Sakura shtick too much, but doesn't seem to add substance like he does with Rin, or Saber, or Archer. For example, look at the April Fool's stuff, in particular the TMitter (Twitter) prank. You get all these good things about Rin/Archer, Shinji, and Saber/Shirou, even Rider. Sakura's role was to jealously devour Shinji and end the event with one tweet. Now yeah, I know everyone might not get the spotlight all the time, but he really doesn't use her effectively for anything but cheap DS jokes. It's a waste in my humble opinion for one of the central characters.

Well, it happens.
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OMG YOU GUYS IT'S AN UPDATE AND IT'S ALL SHINY AND STUFF.

...

*cough*

So, yes, an update. Chapter 4, at long last! And heavily modified from what I originally had in mind for the story, but in the end, this moment needed a chapter of its own. Damn you for being right, Moczo. Damn you.

Spoiler for Into The Rain: Warmth:


FF.net linkage.

As A Result of Bad Planning
The Contradiction of Tohsaka Rin
The Situation of Matou Sakura
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Old 2011-02-17, 22:42   Link #751
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OMG YOU GUYS IT'S AN UPDATE AND IT'S ALL SHINY AND STUFF.

...

*cough*

So, yes, an update. Chapter 4, at long last! And heavily modified from what I originally had in mind for the story, but in the end, this moment needed a chapter of its own. Damn you for being right, Moczo. Damn you.

Spoiler for Into The Rain: Warmth:


FF.net linkage.

As A Result of Bad Planning
The Contradiction of Tohsaka Rin
The Situation of Matou Sakura
Spoiler for Rain Thoughts:
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Old 2011-02-17, 22:43   Link #752
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OMG YOU GUYS IT'S AN UPDATE AND IT'S ALL SHINY AND STUFF.

...

*cough*

So, yes, an update. Chapter 4, at long last! And heavily modified from what I originally had in mind for the story, but in the end, this moment needed a chapter of its own. Damn you for being right, Moczo. Damn you.

Spoiler for Into The Rain: Warmth:


FF.net linkage.

As A Result of Bad Planning
The Contradiction of Tohsaka Rin
The Situation of Matou Sakura
I think I just felt hell freeze over.

Nice chapter, by the way. Almost worth the wait.
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Old 2011-02-18, 00:03   Link #753
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RAIN!

You know, nothing more really needs to be said.
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Old 2011-02-18, 04:11   Link #754
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It's good for business because it'll keep those people interested...maybe.
Actually, I was thinking storyline-wise. If you're a HF/Sakura fan then you can't help but perceive Sakura's absence in Fate/UBW to be kind of like a middle finger to everything Fate/UBW stand for (which are the exact opposite to HF). Shirou banging on about ideals and saving the world appears horribly ineffective or pointless when you consider Sakura is still sufferring. It's as if it's proof that Shirou's ideals don't really work in it's application. This is from an HF/Sakura fans perspective, mind you.
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Old 2011-02-18, 06:34   Link #755
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Are you setting up Shirou/Rider?!?!
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.
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Old 2011-02-18, 20:47   Link #757
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Nice to see another chapter of Rain I'd like to comment more on the specifics, but I'm too overwhelmed by the WAFF right now ^.^;
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I'd like to comment more on the specifics, but I'm too overwhelmed by the WAFF right now ^.^;
Mission accomplished.
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Old 2011-02-19, 21:26   Link #759
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Yeah, very nice chapter. I love the interactions between Rin and Sakura, and how Rin's heart keeps getting the better of the part of her that is saying "no, I have to act like a proper magus".

So, yeah, definite WAFF from this chapter....

Also, I do like where you're heading with Shirou. Shirou x Rider isn't a pairing I would normally condone, because I simply can't see it forming due to how much Rider cares for Sakura and her well-being, but with Sakura paired with Rin here it fits perfectly.
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I'm not quite done with this part just yet; this is what I have for it so far.

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