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Old 2009-04-11, 09:19   Link #61
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Ah thanks. I was wondering to myself when watching this the age of the characters, and was surprised that it wasn't mentioned in the first two episodes.

& yeah i said i was gonna marathon this show at a later date, though watching the second episode has me not wanted to wait any longer for the next episode.
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Old 2009-04-11, 10:09   Link #62
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Claudio's deer-in-the-headlights look is brilliant! This is truly a season of surprises.
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Old 2009-04-11, 12:53   Link #63
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I liked ep1. But I loved ep2. The characters have depth and surprises. I am sometimes weirded out by the May-September thing in media, thinking of the wish-fulfilment of middle-aged male producers, but this made it seem reasonable to me: Nicoletta is capable, lost, bold, and Italian, not Japanese; and Claudio is an elegant gentleman. But I'm sure there are lots more surprises in store for us.

The one thing that will not be a surprise is when Nicoletta discovers she can sympathize with her mother -- and that she is like her.

I enjoyed Nijuumensou no Musume, but that was just barely a romance. The young heroine was rescued by the older guy (maybe 30-35 at the time?) and grew to love him and want to always be with him, but the show scrupulously avoided even hinting at anything sexual.
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Old 2009-04-11, 17:05   Link #64
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Only had enough time to catch the first episode so far, but it was quite lovely for a first episode. Good music and great BG artwork...Also gotta love having some more mature characters for once.

Highschoolers can be fun to watch in all their immature awkwardness and all but its nice to have abit of change every now and again ya know.
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Old 2009-04-11, 20:40   Link #65
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I liked ep1. But I loved ep2. The characters have depth and surprises. I am sometimes weirded out by the May-September thing in media, thinking of the wish-fulfilment of middle-aged male producers, but this made it seem reasonable to me: Nicoletta is capable, lost, bold, and Italian, not Japanese; and Claudio is an elegant gentleman. But I'm sure there are lots more surprises in store for us.
QFT. Claudio is... cute, the way he can't seem to handle her advances.

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I enjoyed Nijuumensou no Musume, but that was just barely a romance. The young heroine was rescued by the older guy (maybe 30-35 at the time?) and grew to love him and want to always be with him, but the show scrupulously avoided even hinting at anything sexual.
He should've been about 45 at least since he was about 30 at the end of WWII. I think it was more like hero-worship than any kind of concrete romance.
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Old 2009-04-12, 09:19   Link #66
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No, they're considerably older than that.

This is the age chart from Erotics F issue 39.

Spoiler for Rispara Ages:

There doesn't seem to be a huge difference in age between Claudio/Vito/Furio - all mid-to-late fifties. BTW, Vito already has a college-age lover (Marina). It'll be interesting to see if they adapt that storyline for the anime. They're ridiculously cute being fitness freaks together~.
Vito is actually married to the girl as I understood.
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The one thing that will not be a surprise is when Nicoletta discovers she can sympathize with her mother -- and that she is like her.
Yep, that is when they will patch things up.
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Old 2009-04-12, 09:28   Link #67
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Vito is actually married to the girl as I understood.
Yes, you see the romance right down to the proposition in Gente. It's cute.
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Old 2009-04-12, 09:31   Link #68
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Yes, you see the romance right down to the proposition in Gente. It's cute.
Is gente a sequal to this? Do they say anything more about nicoletta?

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Old 2009-04-12, 09:54   Link #69
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What about Claudio and Nicoletta? A poster brought up an interesting point about Nicoletta mistaking her love for Claudio as her appreciation for his kindness, which is certainly legitimate. It'll be interesting if that were the case, although I certainly don't mind if they do end up together too!
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Old 2009-04-12, 10:14   Link #70
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What about Claudio and Nicoletta? A poster brought up an interesting point about Nicoletta mistaking her love for Claudio as her appreciation for his kindness, which is certainly legitimate. It'll be interesting if that were the case, although I certainly don't mind if they do end up together too!
Well, in the Manga it was left open ended, The anime might go further than that. there was a reason Claudio was not accepting Nicoletta's advances and that reason was solved at the end.
that is why asked if this Gente had more information about them.
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Old 2009-04-12, 20:49   Link #71
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I was watching and enjoying it and thinking how good the star was -- then I realized she was Orikasa Fumiko. No wonder.
Nuts, cannot download this show fast enough now.
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Old 2009-04-17, 02:13   Link #72
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Downloaded, watched both ep [several times each >_<] and came to 1 conclusion: when is the next ep?

Then I realised it came out in an hour block every fortnight

What worked in this show? Orikasa Fumiko as Nicoletta. She's the one a production company will call on for a character who will do and say one thing, and yet feel and think in another manner. Perfect for the conflicted bundle of emotions that is the lead here. Her monologues are especially amusing, from dealing with a wayward mom to what sort of program was running when in manhunter mode. Imagine the hardware running on sex and the software registering nice, emphatic man to open up to. Italian speakers care to comment on her pronunciation?

With that said, Olga crashing in on her daughter taking advantage of her personal harem was a moment in gold

Older man younger woman theme IMO is actually incidental to the main thread of one lost and angry young woman facing her mom. Poor Claudio here is simply collateral damage to someone out for a measure of retribution. To me, this show is less about the romance than it is a character study- especially for 2 people who cannot possibly be more similar even if they were twins.

Out of personal experience, I have members of the family not only marry late, their life partners have a big age gap- this is actually something that's pretty common to me. What theme IMO is even more common place? Children challenging their parents in their own game. I deal with people in survival mode because their own flesh and blood is out for their spot in the sun. Thoroughly unpleasant and even more dramatic than any possible large age gap romance can be.

Likely because the parents tend to win the game and have their children resent them for it.

Let's see if that can be avoided here
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Old 2009-04-18, 21:38   Link #73
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so, after watching this show upon the notion that it was an "Aria like show with romance," i've come to the conclusion that it is the ANTI Aria..

1. the age of the waiters. i would have assumed they were "older" and from reading the above posts, they are "much older."

2. the elder romance. its nothing i go for.. its a change from the high school/college stuff i normally watch, but its not a good change for me.

3. the preview for ep 2 was kind of iffy.. don't know why, but it made me afraid to watch it..
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Old 2009-04-19, 03:52   Link #74
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3. the preview for ep 2 was kind of iffy.. don't know why, but it made me afraid to watch it..
Isn't that all the more reason to watch it?

Seriously, the build towards that scene and the immediate aftermath was very well executed, voiced and raises some interesting questions on why Nicoletta would do something like that.

If nothing else, what happens after that scene is both comedy and tragedy gold
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Old 2009-04-19, 05:54   Link #75
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so, after watching this show upon the notion that it was an "Aria like show with romance," i've come to the conclusion that it is the ANTI Aria..
Aria with romance? Wow, some people are seriously wrong.

It's basically a more mature Ouran then anything.
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Old 2009-04-19, 10:51   Link #76
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I'm still undecided about this one - The opening made me think this may be a cross between The Bartender and Antique Bakery, and the music made me wonder if this was set in Rome or Neo-Venezia!
Then on the other hand, I find some of the 3D work horrible with scenes looking like they come out of a ten year old computer game, and there's something about the character design I don't like, maybe its the mouths or the eyes, or both.

And seriously, - a bi-oji-san reverse harem? Who's the target audience, middle-aged Fujoshi?

But I watched the second episode, and it's grown on me - and yes, Olga coming in at an inopportune moment was hilarious.
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Old 2009-04-19, 13:15   Link #77
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And seriously, - a bi-oji-san reverse harem? Who's the target audience, middle-aged Fujoshi?
Fuji-TV favors what they call the F1 audience (women between 20 and 34 years old). I suppose with the series they're catering to the older end of this audience (and maybe even older ones too).
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Old 2009-04-21, 03:46   Link #78
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the music made me wonder if this was set in Rome or Neo-Venezia!
The link might be closer than you think! Some of the members of the Choro Club (ARIA) are musicians for Ristorante Paradiso so that should explain why the music has that soothing ARIA vibe to it.
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Old 2009-04-21, 03:52   Link #79
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The link might be closer than you think! Some of the members of the Choro Club (ARIA) are musicians for Ristorante Paradiso so that should explain why the music has that soothing ARIA vibe to it.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...9&postcount=58

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Old 2009-04-23, 04:23   Link #80
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Seen ep3. They changed the OP animation some.

I'll hand this show props for drawing good looking food then animating it.

For ep4, seems they are animating the origin of the restaurant from the Gente sequel.
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