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Old 2009-03-14, 16:15   Link #61
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-There are no faux bodies in any of the murders.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:18   Link #62
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I knew Kinzo was only a victim
I think this might get easier now...

And now let me make a few things clear:

Would you please state in red for me:
-Shannon locked herself in the shed
-No one entered the shed after Shannon locked.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:19   Link #63
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Refused, refused, refused.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:22   Link #64
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I refuse your statement as a valid answer, the bodies might be real corpses but is their identy intrepreted correctly?
since you refused to say that dead bodies count or do not count as people, i assume that there are dead bodies on rokkenjima other than the 18 living bodies mentioned.

One or more of the six bodies found by Kanon are real bodies but they were not the bodies of the persons everyone believed they were. Unprobable but still possible
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:22   Link #65
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Now recite those:

- Shannon didn't kill anyone
- Genji survived
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:24   Link #66
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-Dead bodies count as people
-Grass is green
-Nobody came into the island during the 4th and 5th of October, other than the family members and servants already mentioned.


The other two are refused.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:26   Link #67
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i require a definition of "faux bodies".
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:29   Link #68
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Faux body is any kind of body (resembling a human body), of any kind of material (wood, wax, plastic, etc.) that is NOT human.

Is that sufficient?
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:29   Link #69
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You seem to refuse everything I say xD

Now let me see please state those:
- Rudolph survived
- Rosa is dead
- To bring love and peace is nice
- Jessica and Kanon were killed by Shannon
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:31   Link #70
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Quote:
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Faux body is any kind of body (resembling a human body), of any kind of material (wood, wax, plastic, etc.) that is NOT human.

Is that sufficient?
Then a human feigning death or a body manipulated as to resememble someone else's body do not fall under the definition?
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:32   Link #71
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I refused them because either you're completely right or completely wrong.

-To bring love and peace is nice
-Shannon did not kill Jessica and Kanon


Happy?
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:34   Link #72
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-People pretending to be dead do not fall into the faux body category.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:36   Link #73
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then i insist, one of the six person found "dead" wasn't actually dead, it was just a very nice make-up. Therefore i can apply the same theory i used for Kinzo i only need to replace his name with someone else's, let's say: Kumasawa.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:41   Link #74
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Let's make it more interesting:

If you gave a definite theory of who is the culprit please state so in BLUE. If your statement is correct or close to the truth, the game will go to the human side. However, you must also include motives, method of murders and accomplices (if any).

- If you are correct with the culprit, but wrong in anything else, then your theory will be deemed incorrect.
- If the culprit is incorrect but everything else is correct, the theory is still incorrect.
- If the culprit is correct and there are only a few deviations in everything else, your theory will be deemed correct.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:45   Link #75
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Damn this places the game on a harder level! Battler only needs to find a plausible excuse no matter how illlogical it is! ; ;

Anyway i accept your challenge, however i lack elements to even remotely imagine the motivation. Finding the motivation will be a lot harder than finding the culprit.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:47   Link #76
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Fufufufkikikikikhahahahahaha~!

You can still make regular theories and request recitals. But if you make a correct assumption and it's not in blue, it will not be taken into account and the game will continue.
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Old 2009-03-14, 16:50   Link #77
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You seem pretty sure that we don't figure it out...but I think i have a pretty good idea. But I think i will wait a little bit more and have fun.
IN red please~:
- Maria is cute
Okay I should stop messing around here I go

- Hideyoshi doesn't know who the culprit was
- Rudolph didn't kill anyone
- Kinzos face was smashed
- The ten tons of gold don't exist
- Rosa don't hates Eva, Hideyoshi and George
- Rosa died in the night of October 4 to 5

I'm waiting xD
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Old 2009-03-14, 17:03   Link #78
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Then i'll keep on speculating.

Eva was talking to Rosa about something very crazy isn't it?
Then let's imagine Eva decided to put on act a very incredible masterplan. She planned to kill everyone to get the inheritance for herself, she used as accomplice Hideyoshi and George however for some reasons she wanted Rosa to be part of that.

Hideyoshi part of the plan was to stay with the survivors in order to confuse them and to keep them under control, therefore his accusations were all an act.

Eva, Rosa and George faked their death so to be free to perform the other killings. They killed Krauss, kumasawa and Kyrie first. They got this way one of the master key.

Now it is not really important wether they killed Kinzo or not or when they killed him, they could have done that anytime.

In order to avoid suspicions, they removed all the bodies from the living room and hided them somewhere. One of them was placed later inside the incinerator.

Jessica and Kanon death happened as i previously stated, one person entered from one of the windows of the other rooms, he had the master key so he could have unlocked and locked the doors as he pleased. Somehow he managed to kill both Jessica and Kanon without causing a ruckus.

Gohda was killed by someone that sentered from the back door, he cleaned any trace of water and mud and then waited. He probably hided himself inside the kitchen when everyone else arrived.

The third killer scared Shannon to death when she tried to enter the shed, Shannon locked herself inside but she panicked and an accident occured killing her.

Now as for the rest refer to what i said previously on kinzo's theory except this time rudolf genji and nanjo found out something and they fought against the killers. They might have killed one or more of them in the process, however they couldn't prevent nanjo's death and battler's death. All the killers died, probably rudolf survived.

In the end of the initial four accomplices only Hideyoshi survived and when he reached the chapel he killed natsuhi.
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Old 2009-03-14, 17:06   Link #79
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Quite good but still you seem to forget 3 men against a 2 women, a overweighted doctor and a young man? Without a weapon and what about Battler?
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Old 2009-03-14, 17:09   Link #80
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who said they don't have a weapon? They have the winchester

Battler was forced to follow one of the killers inside the chapel bringing Maria with himself, there he was killed. yeah i know, why bringing him there? why leaving the winchester there? it doesn't make sense, do you have any idea?
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