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Old 2009-03-29, 07:49   Link #21
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I never really saw the benefit from Earth Hour. I mean, sure I can turn off my lights in for sixty minutes and feel a little better for myself, but the entire net energy not used for an hour doesn't really do much for amount we use in the rest of the year. It's really just trivial.

I still turned my lights off though, but not for the reason of "saving the world". It was a nice opportunity to go outside and gaze at a larger more expansive star-field because there wasn't nearly as much light pollution during that time.
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Old 2009-03-29, 07:53   Link #22
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The point of Earth Hour was not to save the world by saving energy in the first place.

If switching off lights could save the world, humans will need to switch off lights for the next 10 years or even more.

The real purpose of Earth Hour is to see whether humans choose a Green Earth or Global Warming. The motto was "The world's first global election, choose between a Green Earth and Global Warming.'

And it seems even if 1 billion buildings have switched off their lights, the remaining buildings still contain ignorant or selfish people. And it has proven this point.
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Old 2009-03-29, 07:59   Link #23
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I was thinking about doing it, but than i just completely forgot about it till now. xD
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:04   Link #24
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@C.A

You have a point, but it seems that half of the reason it didn't really succeed from what this thread and all my other forums seem to tell me is well. . .there's not much advertising going about. A lot of people simply don't REALIZE there's an Earth Hour. Or as the post above me sorta demonstrates, forgot.

Hell, there are a plethora of reasons, not simply because everyone is selfish or ignorant. I mean sure that's definitely a reason, but it's simply not certain that it's the sole cause for the other people to not participate.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:11   Link #25
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I am neither ignorant nor selfish. I just didn't see the point of it, even if it was to demonstrate a choice. If they would propose something constructive, instead of always talk and "Choose that or you are the opposite", then I would see a purpose in it.

That's also the person I am, if I do not see a purpose, I am not likely to do anything. I care about the environment , but in other ways than this. Especially constructive ones.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:12   Link #26
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You have a point, but it seems that half of the reason it didn't really succeed from what this thread and all my other forums seem to tell me is well. . .there's not much advertising going about. A lot of people simply don't REALIZE there's an Earth Hour. Or as the post above me sorta demonstrates, forgot.

Hell, there are a plethora of reasons, not simply because everyone is selfish or ignorant. I mean sure that's definitely a reason, but it's simply not certain that it's the sole cause for the other people to not participate.
Well, I'm also quite sure most other reasons would be negative reasons, 'forgetfulness', 'I don't care', 'I think its stupid' etc.

And the lack of advertisement is either the broadcasting stations don't care about such events and would rather have people not switch off lights and TVs and just watch their shows.

Or that people have not been watching Discovery Channel, Nat Geo, Animal Planet and would rather watch their 'Reality TV' etc.
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I am neither ignorant nor selfish. I just didn't see the point of it, even if it was to demonstrate a choice. If they would propose something constructive, instead of always talk and "Choose that or you are the opposite", then I would see a purpose in it.

That's also the person I am, if I do not see a purpose, I am not likely to do anything. I care about the environment , but in other ways than this. Especially constructive ones.
If you really care about the environment that much, you could spend 1 hour of your life in darkness.

It just shows you don't care enough.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:13   Link #27
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Well, I think if Irenicus was here, he'll remember what it is that keeps me awake, but I'll repeat it here. What would happen if the average African, Indian and Chinese family becomes middle class? Add to that our friends in South America. Even with the most efficient equipment, we will see a soar in energy demand. What then?
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:13   Link #28
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My dad mentioned this in passing, but had no idea what he was talking about.

If this a yearly event i'll do it next time.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:14   Link #29
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But seems like this event showed that most humans are ignorant or selfish.
They could have just thought it was ridiculous

It's not like any power plants stopped belching crap into the atmosphere for that hour or anything, well maybe a tiny bit less. If it makes you feel any better my power went out for 2 hours last night due to a storm, to technically I did more than you without even trying
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:15   Link #30
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It's better to be saving energy all year round. At best, this 1-hour thing is an advertisement. At worst, it's a gimmick.
That's pretty much what I thought about it. As far as I could tell everyone just went exactly back to normal after EH ended. It didn't change that much. Plus like someone said we still have cars which is supposedly one of the worst causes of it, depending on your beliefs regarding the subject. I'm not saying trying to save our earth is bad(though using it as an excuse to colonize space would be fun) I just didn't see a point in pretending turning it off for an hour made a difference, unless people spent that time thinking about how to fix the environment or something.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:17   Link #31
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If you really care about the environment that much, you could spend 1 hour of your life in darkness.

It just shows you don't care enough.
Fine by me if you want to believe that, because I do care. I don't care to the extreme, because there is a lot of other factors that a individual cannot affect.
We all have our own ways.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:17   Link #32
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Personally, I do believe that the sea levels will rise, wiping out 1-2 billion people (estimates are mine). Even then, we still have a population problem with a capital P.

Eventually, this issue will settle itself, but in ways which will make us regret that we didn't bite the bullet and settle it ourselves.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:18   Link #33
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They could have just thought it was ridiculous

It's not like any power plants stopped belching crap into the atmosphere for that hour or anything, well maybe a tiny bit less. If it makes you feel any better my power went out for 2 hours last night due to a storm, to technically I did more than you without even trying
Try reading my later post on top of this page.

This event is to see if people are aware and ready to change for the better before Global Warming hits.

Its like a petition, to the world, the governments that they want to cut greenhouse emissions and save energy.

If the world response is outstanding, governments may fund more into green energy research, which the world is terribly lacking.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:21   Link #34
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Global warming is already upon us. It will reach a point where people will look at each other across borders and go, "They, or us?"
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Personally, I do believe that the sea levels will rise, wiping out 1-2 billion people (estimates are mine). Even then, we still have a population problem with a capital P.

Eventually, this issue will settle itself, but in ways which will make us regret that we didn't bite the bullet and settle it ourselves.
Indeed the easiest way is to just wipe out most of the Earth's population, eventually Nature will do that if humans persist.

But humans themselves are selfish and not want that, yet they are selfish enough to not try and lighten the situation.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:24   Link #36
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Assuming that the world population stops growing (good luck getting there), we already have 6.5+ billion around the world. You can wipe out 80% of all of us, and there will still be 1 BILLION people around (++). As far as I know, not many mammals have a population of 1 billion.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:31   Link #37
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I don't understand what you seem angry about C.A. The truth about this event is that it will have no real effect in the long run. The people who already wished to do something about global warming either A. didn't care about this event because it was set up so it wouldn't do much in their opinion. B. turned off their lights and refused to really spread the idea of global warming they just... turned off their lights (not that it wasn't cool) C. turned off their lights and tried to spread the idea of stopping global warming (though they could have spread the idea without the whole turning off your lights I guess it felt like a good gesture.) or D. never even heard of it since it wasn't publicized well enough, not because they were ignorant. Accusing people who didn't turn off their lights as being ignorant or selfish is just that ignorant and selfish.

As for me read my previous post. I just role that way. Prove that my action was either ignorant or selfish.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:31   Link #38
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Assuming that the world population stops growing (good luck getting there), we already have 6.5+ billion around the world. You can wipe out 80% of all of us, and there will still be 1 BILLION people around (++). As far as I know, not many mammals have a population of 1 billion.
As someone who watched the entire Gundam series, has watched alot of mecha, is watching Sorakake now, I know that very well lol

I personally have no problems with the outcome if humans themselves asks for it.

But I know even on this forum, there's someone who would start go nuts and start relating us to Hitler and stuff.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:32   Link #39
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Mass Extinction events have occured before, it's just a matter of time before things comes full circle once more.
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Old 2009-03-29, 08:35   Link #40
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Mass Extinction events have occured before, it's just a matter of time before things comes full circle once more.
Well, yeah. But, we know essentially nothing about mass extinctions. Fossil records are incomplete at best.
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