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Old 2009-04-14, 07:58   Link #1
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[Manga] Chapter 444 Discussion

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Old 2009-04-14, 08:10   Link #2
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Yay we get to see some of nagato's past.... to bad we have to wait til next week to hear what happened to yahiko, or possibly what went down between hanzo... hell they may even be linked.. madara might even be mentioned...

However it does seem odd that nagato is just reminiscing with naruto considering the situation, but then someone explaining there past in this way is very shonen-ish!! one of kubo's favorite ways of character development... anyways one more next week then golden week, so lets just hope its the end of the arc and not a cliff hanger... coz 2 week cliffhangers are so mean:S
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:02   Link #3
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:03   Link #4
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Obviously fake
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:06   Link #5
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Obviously fake
it was confrimed to be true ^^ well need pictures to bigger confirmation throught....
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:06   Link #6
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Sounds....frikken weird! I can see Nagato reminiscing since he's on his death-chair and all, but hasn't he like...lost already? Attacking Naruto makes no sense, even more so the intrusion at the end when Naruto said he'd go alone...Anyway, like GS said, I want to see what happened with Yahiko, reading his chapters again he seems to have hated the world and want to make everyone feel pain, so maybe he agreed to dying and becoming Nagato's executioner or something...but I guess we'll have to wait a few weeks to find out
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:43   Link #7
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it seems to be real...
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Old 2009-04-14, 09:51   Link #8
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If the chapters do start basing around Nagatos past than I want to see at least how Yahiko ended up dying. Because I have a feeling that it was Yahikos death that was one of the main factors for the trigger of Nagato changing so drastically from his childhood to what he is now.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:06   Link #9
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Sounds to me like Madara is the Emperor and Nagato is Darth Pain. I wouldn't be surprised if much of the hatred in the ninja world was a direct result of Madara's own machinations.

All that I ask for before the story concludes is for the Hyuuga to show that they too are elite, Rock Lee to surpass Gai and for the MS abilities to be better explained as they currently don't make sense as genetic traits as amaterasu, kamui and susanoo have nothing to do with sharingan characteristics.

That and some background on the fourth.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:11   Link #10
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mmm i could be wrong really i think illl go check now but the rinnegan didnt it activated when he kill those guys when he was young trying to defend yahiko?
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:13   Link #11
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i dont know... the spoiler seems to be real, but there is something that is not ok to me...

If Nagato's parents were killed by konoha's ninjas, why he accepted Jiraiya as his sensei?

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mmm i could be wrong really i think illl go check now but the rinnegan didnt it activated when he kill those guys when he was young trying to defend yahiko?
It seems that he activated Rinnegan for the first time when they parents were killed, when Yahiko was attacked it wasnt the first time though.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:30   Link #12
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i dont know... the spoiler seems to be real, but there is something that is not ok to me...

If Nagato's parents were killed by konoha's ninjas, why he accepted Jiraiya as his sensei?


It seems that he activated Rinnegan for the first time when they parents were killed, when Yahiko was attacked it wasnt the first time though.
yeah i just checked and yeah it seems like its true. hehe
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:45   Link #13
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If Nagato's parents were killed by konoha's ninjas, why he accepted Jiraiya as his sensei?
That's what I've been wondering about since chapter 437. I hope Kishi has a good answer for this, or the whole thing will sound pretty stupid.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:47   Link #14
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Kishi isn't doing it bad until here, i hope he doesn't messed up... but, if Nagato is there with the same "avenger speech" as Sasuke... that would be fail.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:55   Link #15
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As long as Hinata is a-Ok in the last chapter Iam good.

All talk and no fight? Come on...

Also as said by the 4th "ITS THE MASKED AKATSUKI" he's brains behind all this from the start.
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Old 2009-04-14, 12:18   Link #16
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Kakashi's not dead?
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Old 2009-04-14, 12:51   Link #17
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and for the MS abilities to be better explained as they currently don't make sense as genetic traits as amaterasu, kamui and susanoo have nothing to do with sharingan characteristics.
Why wouldn't they make sense? Sharingan has genjutsu powers -> tsukiyomi is the ultimate genjutsu. Uchiha have natural fire element ability, they can use the fire element at a very young age -> amaterasu is the ultimate fire. The MS is an insanely strong powerup for thos abilities, similarly as the sage-mode for Naruto gives an insane powerup for Naruto's already strong chakra and stamina levels.

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Kakashi's not dead?
Watching from Nagato's POV Kakashi's dead, but it's a mystery. I guess Kishi already received so many fan letters that he will keep Kakashi alive
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Old 2009-04-14, 12:54   Link #18
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So there will be scenes from Nagato's past. That I assume would also mean showing scenes from when he was talked into forming Akatsuki by Madara. At least we can get some insight on what Pain was really thinking when he accepted Madara's offer. And what Madara said to him (that is where Yondaime's talks may come into play, maybe giving the impression that even the wars in which Nagato lost his family was triggered by Madara's actions).
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All talk and no fight? Come on...
I think it was clear from the previous chapter that there will be talk. And hopefully it takes a lot more than a single chapter. Just to make it closer to One Piece rather than Bleach.
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Old 2009-04-14, 13:04   Link #19
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I highly doubt that Nagato is even capable of combat...
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Old 2009-04-14, 14:59   Link #20
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^ I second that, the guy's about to kick the bucket, I just hope he doesn't die before finishing his sentence...I hate it when they do that!
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