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Old 2009-04-17, 05:53   Link #1
GHDpro
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In the past few years streaming video sites like YouTube, Veoh and Crunchyroll have become increasingly popular. While in the past pretty much all (full episode) anime content on these sites has been "illegal" (unofficial), the advent of more and more legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama & Saki, just to name a few) has lead us to the thought: should AnimeSuki start listing anime streams?

I and a few other staff members think that we should probably start listing at least legal anime streams on AnimeSuki. The reason is that as legal anime streams will get more popular, we will be left with less and less fansubs to list if we adhere to our current listing policy. We consider legal anime streams as "licensed", which means distribution of unofficial/non-legal fansubs of such series should stop. Right now that means a series is removed from the site if it becomes available as legal stream. But unlike regular licenses we can link to the legal alternatives if modifications are made to the scripts that run the site.

Apart from certain technical issues (which can be overcome) however, there are some issues with anime streams. Some that I can think of are:
  • Legal streams may only be available for a limited amount of time (example)
  • Legal streams may be region locked (example)
  • Legal streams may not be available for free (pay only)
  • Non-legal, but unlicensed streams may not be sanctioned by fansub groups (example)
  • There may be dozens or more versions of the same episode for unlicensed streams
  • Streams may be broken up in multiple parts for unlicensed streams
And I'm sure there are more problems that I didn't think of yet.

Anyway, on with the poll. I tried to cover all related topics, which made it a bit long. If you don't feel like answering all questions feel free to just post your thoughts on this issue.

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams
- I both download anime and view anime streams about equally
- I mostly view anime streams and occasionally download anime
- I only view anime streams and never download anime

If you have a reason for picking one of the options above, please mention it in your post.

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)
- Both legal and illegally uploaded anime streams equally
- Mostly illegally uploaded anime streams (such as on Veoh, etc)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular and replace fansubs eventually
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain
- No, the situation will not change much
- No, free legal anime streams are just a fad and will disappear again in a few years
- Other (please specify)

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- Yes, I think I'll be viewing more anime streams than download anime in the future
- Yes, I'll be switching from illegally uploaded anime streams (like on Veoh etc) to legal streams
- Yes, I think I'll be downloading more anime than view streams in the future
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes
- No

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes
- No

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)
- Download to own (regardless or whether files have DRM or not)
- Pay to view online streams (sort of like a rental)
- All of the above
- Other (please specify)

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I do not want to pay for anime online, ever (please specify reason)
- I don't have money to spend on anime (online or otherwise)
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods
- I do not have any means to pay for anime online (no credit card, banned PayPal country, etc)
- Other (please specify)

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes
- No (please specify reason in your post)

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)
- Only (non-legal) unlicensed streams (of fansubs)
- A mix of both

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, but only for the time the stream is available for free
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option
- No, never

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki
- Yes, without distinction from other streams
- No, never

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only
- Yes, without distinction from other streams
- No, never

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams
- No, also list streams uploaded by other people

For that matter, are there any streams officially sanctioned by fansub groups?!?

Just skip questions if you do not have an opinion about them. Also feel free to voice your opinions/concerns/thoughts regarding anime streams as well. Thanks for your time!

If you want to simply take the original poll, edit it and leave your answers (plus any comments) here is the original source of the poll:
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Old 2009-04-17, 07:07   Link #2
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Might as well give my opinion on this. It'd be pretty convenient not to sign up all over to know when legal streams are happening and what of.

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

I like using streams to sample a series before buying or downloading it or to watch unlicensed series my old PC can't handle. Since Crunchyroll removed illegal streams I haven't bothered as much.


2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?

- Both legal and illegally uploaded anime streams equally

As said, it's gotten harder to find the illegal streams you want in good quality thanks to CR. It is however convenient that there are legal streams too.

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

I know from my college anime club that there are people against watching anime online for moral reasons who aren't aware of legal streams yet - there must be more like them who will eventually start using the legal streams. Then one internet lurker tells another and it's like an alternate Adult Swim on demand.

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

They're still not going to catch everything I'm interested in.

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods
- Other (please specify)
I'm very selective in what I purchase. I prefer paying for something I know I like and want to rewatch or see on my shelf, and using the net it's very easy to throw money around without thinking.

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?

- Yes

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?

- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)
However, fansubber approved streams might as well be included. It's just that if you include all illegal streams there's far too many without quality checking or guarantee that it'll last on the site for very long. It would make extra work for those adding them.

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups?
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams

I remember one group had a member using their Youtube account for posting stuff when their codecs went haywire for some users. I forget who, but on rare occasions members of fansubbing groups do stream their own work.
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Old 2009-04-17, 07:29   Link #3
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams
I only very rarely view streams. So far I haven't been all impressed with the quality (video + audio) of the streams. Also my connection at home is a bit on the slower side so viewing HD streams is a pain. Thus downloading is more convenient.
2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
I have viewed a few legal streams. All of which I ended up downloading anyway.
3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain
I don't think fansubs will be going anywhere. If nothing else stitching original subs to a higher quality raw will go on. Streaming at as high quality as the HDTV rips provide over the internet will not be possible due to many bottlenecks in the network.
4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change
I don't think my habits are going to change dramatically over the next few years. Quality isn't satisfactory and I personally don't mind filling my hard drives with anime. At least I'll know the show I'd like to watch is going to be available when I want to watch it and I'll be able to watch it where ever and with ever.
5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)
DRM free because of the compatibility and copying issues. I want to be able to copy the stuff I have bought to my own devices as many times as I please and view it with any format compatible device I might be using without having to wrestle with DRM.
9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes
Or rather I don't see it necessary but wouldn't hurt to have it as an option.
10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)
Index of non-legal streams would probably just be outdated all of the thanks to streams being removed.
12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only
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Old 2009-04-17, 08:23   Link #4
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I'll try and answer with the closest choice, but some of them i dont really fit

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

This is determined by which gets it out first. If i have access to both at the same time i prefer the stream. I prefer to use any leagal source available, but i can't afford memberships and i dont want to wait a week



2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)


3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?

- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain


4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?

- No, my habits will probably not change

If they use streaming ads like comedy network does and i can get it fast i will switch.


5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes


6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No


8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?

- I don't have money to spend on anime (online or otherwise)


9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes


10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)


11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, but only for the time the stream is available for free


12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- No, never

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams

I didn't quite understand this but after seeing the video about Dattebayo i'm going to change my answer
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Old 2009-04-17, 08:34   Link #5
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Welcome to the forum saiu!

"~" = omitted to answer
Quote:
Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
~ I spend most of my time (which is not even close to all of my time) collecting and viewing anime related images. Occasionally I view anime related online videos (streamed but not streams, and not necesarly series), and a few times connect to some music anime related streems. I only view RAW as far as streamed videos go.

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
~ Veoh is locked for me last time I checked. I do enjoy mostly legal decent quality videos, like Haruhi-chan, etc mostly stuff that's online only; don't really bother with those mentioned above.

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

Quote:
Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

Quote:
Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

Quote:
Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
~ I'd rather buy them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
~ You can list whatever you want.

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
~ No "funny anime videos" option?

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
~ Should list them seperatly as a stack. Unless the time limit is measured in years.

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
~ Is it imposible to have a "this is my region" option?

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
~ Don't care

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Originally Posted by GHDpro View Post
14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
~ Is it even called a "fansub" group if all it does it tell you what to upload and what not to? I would list streams after they pass inspection (its streamed content afterall).
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Old 2009-04-17, 09:01   Link #6
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Quote:
1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams

Used to rely mainly on streams in the past when my internet connection was slow but after getting a faster connection (which can download torrents effectively) my reliance on anime streams for watching episodes has completely stopped. Now, I mostly visit streaming sites like Youtube to see fan made AMV's like this one.

Quote:
3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

Quote:
4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

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5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

Have a large drawer full of anime cd's (bought from a local anime shop).
The only time my buying habits got minimized was after I got a faster internet connection that can download torrents.

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6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes

I'll gladly pay to watch Shugo Chara online (for the sake of giving money to the creators of the anime and its not because I like Crunchyroll). Crunchyroll just have to find a way to get rid of the region lock.

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7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)

Would like it to be DRM free if possible since I'd be paying for it.

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Old 2009-04-17, 09:06   Link #7
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Since I've been in the process of writing a site that lists all legally available DTO and streaming anime, I might as well give feedback with issues I have been having in writing the site. There is always a company or website that throws a wrench into seemingly perfect plans. I initially wanted to list expiration dates, regions, etc and then found out most of that information is not publicly available or requires jumping through hoops. I am just finally getting to methods to acquire this information now.

Random aside: Envirosphere has been listing official legal subtitles for about a year now and I keep having to revise the listing condition policy as some company comes up with some exception to the rules. Initially it was "Officially available for viewing worldwide from the Japanese parent company" and has been since converted to: "Any english subtitled release, available via free streaming or DTO (or pay DTO in conjunction with the streaming), by either the Japanese company or a R1 company, in concurrency (or partial concurrency) with the Japanese airing of the series, in at least the US."

Regarding the intro note: There are dozens of versions of legal streams out there too. The companies try and get their stuff on as many platforms as possible so there are some series that are available on 7 or 8 different sites, all in different configurations. (Example: Moonphase) Some of these are even broken into 2 or 4 parts per episode on Youtube.

You also get things like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood where multiple companies and releases cover different regions, even for the same language. (Madman covering english speaking R4 while FUNi appears to be covering english speaking R1 for FMA:B).


9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
* Yes

The more places that increase awareness of legal anime, the better.

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
* Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
* Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

Note: The majority of the streams out there are actually time limited in some way/shape/form. The problem is that most of the limits out there are not visible to the user. Also, there is the reverse issue of streams that are only available for paying members for a period of time and then go free. Crunchyroll being the obvious example of this.

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
Issue 1) Most streams are actually region locked, but the regions aren't listed.
Issue 2) Beside the few common regions (US, US and Canada, All english speaking countries) regions are not consistent at all between titles. They are a complete mess and vary from title to title on some sites like Crunchyroll. (Ex: Naruto is blocked in random parts of Europe because of a company in France on Crunchyroll.) It is very difficult to determine all of the region restrictions of some titles. There are only a dozen or so titles that are actually available worldwide without restrictions.

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
The few fansub groups I have been in have been of the opinion that releases are not meant to be uploaded to youtube, etc and that if we actually could send DMCA takedowns to the various sites, we would. There is a strong objection to making the file even further easily available than it already is.

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For that matter, are there any streams officially sanctioned by fansub groups?!?
Very, very few.

There is also the odd reverse issue of companies that sanction fansubs. There are a half dozen series on Crunchyroll which the Japanese companies appear to have OK'd the fansub copies that were up there. (There is a forum thread on Asuki somewhere about it.)

Last edited by bayoab; 2009-04-17 at 09:24. Reason: Couple additions, edits
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Old 2009-04-17, 09:15   Link #8
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

Usually, if I wanted to see an episode before the sub is out, I’d check the raw on a streaming site, though I do sometimes check Crunchyroll for some of the shows they have.

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?

- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?

- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain
There are still older shows that I doubt will ever see the light of day if not for fansubs.


4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?

- No, my habits will probably not change

I can’t see streams quality to be that great compared with downloads.


5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No
I like to own it in a tangible form. But if it is not available, and I have enough interest in the title, then Yes.


7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
-Sure, why not?

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- A mix of both

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
Uhh....
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Old 2009-04-17, 09:18   Link #9
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Hm, I haven't watched anime in a while but I like filling out polls so why not

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly view anime streams and occasionally download anime

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly illegally uploaded anime streams (such as on Veoh, etc)
[most legal streams are not accessible in my region]

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Other (please specify)
If you mean online streams only, then I don't think they'll replace fansubs as long as there's enough people out there locked out of legal streams due to licensing problems.

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes

Normally I'd pick no but I think by the end of the year I'll be able to!

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)
- Pay to view online streams (sort of like a rental)
- Other (please specify)

If and when it becomes possible... Mostly the first option. I would only be pretty comfortable with paying for one-time streams if they were short series (<6 episodes) or movies. And they better be really good of course.
I'd be open to the idea of monthly subscriptions if you get access to a large backlog of older stuff, but I'm fairly pessimistic about that happening.

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I don't have money to spend on anime (online or otherwise)
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods
- I do not have any means to pay for anime online (no credit card, banned PayPal country, etc)

Currently #3 would be the biggest reason. However, if I was going to spend considerable $ I'd rather have something I could hold and display...

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- No (please specify reason in your post)

I don't think there's any benefit in doing this. I doubt the site would be made any more useful, frankly... I'm not really sure that the streaming-video audience really overlaps with the visitors/users of the actual Animesuki torrent listing (as opposed to certain other ones)

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
-

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, but only for the time the stream is available for free


12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- No, never

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- No, also list streams uploaded by other people
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Old 2009-04-17, 09:57   Link #10
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- No, never

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams
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Old 2009-04-17, 09:58   Link #11
Ichihara Asako
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams, as stream quality is horrific on a real monitor or TV (ie 1080+)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain. Or at least I hope so. Streams appeal to the masses who have no regard for the eyecancer streams give, but they will probably do a fair bit of damage to the fansubbing community that has spawned out of the torrent age. It's likely fansubs will fall back to the pre-torrent days as far as number of groups and series subbed goes.

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change as long as I can hold out the way I currently do things; download the best TV rips I can, and buy all of the series I rate 5+ if they become available in my region.

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes. A lot. Current total is around $23,000.

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No. I live in a country with download limits and value archiveable media to view offline. A DRM free method of downloads equal to current digisubs, and the price is right (Far less than DVDs with no physical materials made/shipped and no dubs to pay for etc) sure, but not streams.

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- Other (please specify) -- See above.

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
Undecided. As fansubs dry up, I suppose it's needed for AS to live on, but I personally hate streams and would rather avoid them entirely.

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- No, never. It should be unlimited only so the links never expire. (easier on upkeep and users)

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- No, never. Region locking is stupid and should be less supported than streams themselves.

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- No, never. You're not paid to advertise others and you shouldn't unless you do get some kind of referrer deal.

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams. It's only polite. When I used to sub I really hated seeing our work put on YT and other super low quality sites that destroyed half of our typesetting work and such. It's disrespectful to the creators as well as the groups who take the time to do good releases. But I don't think non-legit ones should be listed at all, so...

Streaming is a very unfortunate product of recent years (and certain outspoken fansubbers saying they'll stop if producers release stuff same day as in Japan) but it's not enough. Not for me. And even really high bitrate, or real HD streams won't ever appeal to me for the key fact that I value archiveable media I can watch where/when/however I want. Downloading a series is a precursor to me buying it, and the quality of how I see it impacts my enjoyment which in turn leads to me buying or not buying the show. If I have to sit at my PC and watch it in a browser window that has no fullscreen option, or is such dismal quality that fullscreen at 1920x1080 is just a bunch of blocks, then yeah, I'm not going to be impressed enough to put money down for the show when (if) it is released on DVD in my region. But that's a rant I've gone through too many times so I'll stop.
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Old 2009-04-17, 13:31   Link #12
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Here goes .

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams

To cut a long story short my ISP has a 30GB/month download cap, and my current location is such that either I go with unreliable ISP's with no transfer caps, or reliable ones with a transfer cap. Thus if I want to watch an episode a few times, then streaming it several times wastes my transfer allowance.


2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- n/a

I only use streaming sites to check anime OP/ED's and trailers.


3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Other (please specify)

I think that, yes, more anime will be picked by Crunchyroll et al., but there will always be a number of niche works that won't even make it to the legal streaming sites. Crunchyroll at the moment operates on a flat rate per month, so either they would have to hope that a niche series brings in enough new subscribers (unlikely for a niche series), or they would have to increase their monthly fee (an unpopular move), or they start charging for the series separately of their monthly fee. In any case, I feel as though there will be a natural ceiling to the number of works that are streamed.

Now, for the very popular series there will still be a few groups that will fansub them. However, what I feel is very likely to happen is that some groups will just rip the translations from the streamed version, mux it with a raw of their choice, and release that. I don't know if you count that as a fansub though.


4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change


5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes


6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes


7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- Download to own (DRM free only)

Unless the DRM can be easily stripped (e.g. DVD CSS protection), I wouldn't buy it. So I'll go with the above option. I certainly don't want to feel as though I have to continuously pay to access media because it's not download-able. I definitely do not want to be paying for a service if the video quality sucks. I figure that eventually more series will be released digitally, than on R1 DVD, so I'm happy to pay, but it has to be the right quality, and I have to be able to watch it on my terms, not theirs.


8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- n/a


9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes

To be honest I'm not bothered either way, so long as you make it clear that it's a stream and not a torrent. I would prefer some kind of separation between the two (perhaps javascript + a cookie, so you can choose whether to view one, the other, or both on the main page?)


10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- A mix of both

The problem you're going to have with non-legal streams, is that they're liable to be pulled from youtube et al., which will just cause the links to break. Furthermore youtube limits videos to 10 minutes long (that hasn't changed, right?), so you'd have to link to several videos. You could perhaps provide streaming links to a dedicated anime streaming site (if they exist?), who wouldn't have that problem.


11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, but only for the time the stream is available for free

After it's no longer free, stick a link to the streaming site on your License Database web page. Perhaps also a link to the streaming site on the generic "this series has be licensed page" as well.


12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

People are smart enough to figure out how to use proxy servers. That said it'd be nice to have the heads up before clicking the link.


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- No, never

(Same comment as for question #11).


14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams

Last edited by Fahd; 2009-04-17 at 18:21. Reason: Missing a comma.
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Old 2009-04-17, 14:14   Link #13
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I both download anime and view anime streams about equally

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Both legal and illegally uploaded anime streams equally

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain
I am sure that this trend of legal streaming will continue, but for me there are many shows I am watching and that are not streamed because their popularity is not that big, and often the translation quality of streaming sites like crunchyroll cannot really compare to that of fansub groups, so fansubs will continue.

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes
If the quality of the video, sound and translation is good, definitly.

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- All of the above
It would depend. If I really like a series, I will download it of course, but I do not want to download episodes from series like Naruto that I just watch once and then never again.

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option
But it should be somehow marked that the stream is not for free anymore. And for lazy people a sort of timer that shows how many days the stream is still available for free could also be a good idea.

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams
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Old 2009-04-17, 14:28   Link #14
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?

- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams.
I can use the fingers of one hand to count the number of things I have watched through streams. Then again, I have not closed the door on the possibility of expanding more in this regard.

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?

- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)
Both shows are legal, but like Fahd, I use streaming sites mostly to check anime OP/ED's and trailers.

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?

- Other (please specify)
Don't have the slightest idea. Whatever I say would simply be me guessing.

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?

-Same as above!

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?

- Yes
I stick mostly to renting anime, though. If I had to choose between spending money in anime or video games, I am always gonna go for the games. (of wich I have a ton, btw. )


6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?

- Yes
Not right away, though!

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?

- Download to own (DRM free only)

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?

-skip

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?

- Yes
Because they are there! is as good as any reason to become interested in watching more of them.


10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?

- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

It would be pretty strange for Animesuki to do otherwise.


11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)

- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option


12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)

- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki
Because I can't see them! is not a good enough reason as to why they shouldn't be listed for those that can.


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)

- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)

-skip
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Old 2009-04-17, 14:57   Link #15
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[1) What are your online anime viewing habits?

- I only download anime and never view anime streams

cuz i hate loading time of streams, am locked out most of the time, since europe isnt considered within the license, quality is low, and i'd prefer my anime free, before i decide to buy it

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
skip

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?

- No, free legal anime streams are just a fad and will disappear again in a few years

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?

-Yes, but dvd's only

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
-no

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?

- i only will pay for quality that i can watch again and again, without having to pay again and again

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?

- No, animesuki should only list freely downloadable anime, as soon as there is a question of payment or payment for a better quality version and add ridden sites, then its no longer free

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams?
- No, never

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams?

- no never

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams?
- No, never

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups?

-NO, streams are an evil way to steal our money, like phishing
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Old 2009-04-17, 15:49   Link #16
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly illegally uploaded anime streams (such as on Veoh, etc)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- No, but i am planning to in the near future

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No, I like having a hard copy of what I buy (yes i know i didn't answer yes to the last question

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods (There is many more ways to lose digital data then physical)

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Undecided, It depends on quality of streams (Couldn't chose between the options)

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- A mix of both

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Make two sections, one for free streams and one for streams you have to pay for
12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- No, also list streams uploaded by other people (This really depends on what an "official" fansub group is.
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Old 2009-04-17, 18:04   Link #17
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Both legal and illegally uploaded anime streams equally

Comment: I only use streaming to view clips of anime, whether the clips are from a licensed or unlicensed anime.

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I do not have any means to pay for anime online (no credit card, banned PayPal country, etc)

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- A mix of both

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, but only for the time the stream is available for free

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- No, never

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- No, also list streams uploaded by other people

Comment: I think that we should have as many options as we want, whether it is official or fansubbed.
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Old 2009-04-17, 18:15   Link #18
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: In the eastern capital of the islands of the rising suns...
1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams

2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly illegally uploaded anime streams (such as on Veoh, etc)

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain

4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- No, my habits will probably not change

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No
I've paid for DVD. There's something about having actual physical media in your possession that streaming will never replace.

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
Comment: More a 'don't mind eitherway' option, it's it's not a def 'yes or no' decision that I have about it.

10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- A mix of both

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki
Comment: May as well, I sadly fall into countries which will be hit by various region blocks, so at least being able to clearly see what little choices I have ar present, would be useful.

13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams
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Old 2009-04-17, 20:53   Link #19
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Stream Survey

1) What are your online anime viewing habits?
- I only download anime and never view anime streams

Streams don't fit my watching habits. With either digital fansubs or DVD's I always wait until all episodes are released before watching. Sometimes I will watch maybe the first 2 to make sure I'm not wasting my money or bandwidth. So streams that may go by the wayside either to limited airing or removal don't work for me.


2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
n/a

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?
- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain
- Other (please specify)
I think that fansubs will be around for the most part but probably go underground; sites such as animesuki which list only unlicensed titles might not have much to list, but fansubs will probably be around through other outlets. I hope that streams do not replace fansubs... rather I would hope that a combination of streams, download to own, and television/ondemand channels would replace the need (well rather, the want to have anime the same time as Japan and not 3 years down the line) for fansubs.


4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- Yes, I think I'll be downloading more anime than view streams in the future
- No, my habits will probably not change

Sorry but again it's two answers ; ;. I hope to be participating in more download to own options in the future, possibly paired with streams, or even downloads you can preview or watch as much as you want as long as you have a membership, i.e. like what Napster and Rhapsody do with music.


5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes


6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- Yes


7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?
- All of the above
- Other (please specify)

The only other would be sorta like what I mentioned before. An application that would let you do all those things like a Napster for a monthly cost, plus the cost of purchasing to rip to DVD's.


8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?
- Other (please specify)

Contradiction I guess... but right now I'm unwilling to pay for anime at all... no job, no money... thank lord god jinai for a largely unwatched fansub and dvd collection due to my last job taking up all my time. Otherwise I would be glad to pay for anime online.


9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes and No (please specify reason in your post)

Depends... with fansubs it's on or off, meaning if it's licensed it's not there, if it isn't it's listed. There may be different file types but it's a bittorrent link regardless. There are so many different types of streams it might get confusing. But with the right layout anything is possible.

The big plus would be organization for us fans who are ocd about our collections. I have almost 10K episodes of anime between DVD's and digisubs. I built a relational database and installed mysql server on my computer to run it, as well as a website holding info and pictures on every title. I even built a page for the spring 09 season so I know what I'm getting from who and how. Not saying this to 'brag', actually it probably makes me sound like a hermit who does nothing else, but rather to illustrate a point that it would be great to have a one stop shop to go to for organizational purposes. As it is right now I have to frequent many different sites to get all my info... animesuki being my favorite because of the easy layout... moving on.



10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?
- Only official legal streams (such as Naruto Shippuden and Gintama, etc)

I'll say legal... only reason is that I don't really know of any anime groups that stream their releases officially(correct me if I'm wrong). If it's a FS it's a torrent, official and on the site it's a stream, keeps things simple. Then people can deduce that if it's not listed on the site at all, it's probably out on DVD or doesn't exist. And if it is on the site and listed as a FS torrent and you want it in a stream, that should be your own business to hunt it down since the FS group probably didn't upload it to veoh or youtube in the first place(again correct if incorrect).



11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)
- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

As long as a flag is there saying it's free, or pay I wouldn't see a problem.


12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki

Might as well, if you're going to do some, do them all.


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only

And I would hope you would get paid for it... it's free advertising for the pay sites, although maybe that makes up for listing the fansubs by the same company not being streamed which they aren't receiving money for.


14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams

If they exist I guess so.
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1) What are your online anime viewing habits?

- I mostly download anime and occasionally view anime streams


2) If you view anime streams, what do you view mostly?
- Mostly legal, official anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc)
- Both legal and illegally uploaded anime streams equally

3) Do you think legal anime streams (such as Naruto Shippuden, Gintama, etc) will get more prevalent in the future and will replace fansubs?

- Yes, legal anime streams will get more popular, but fansubs will always remain


4) If you answered "Yes" above, do you think your online anime viewing habits will change because of this in the next few years?
- Yes, I think I'll be viewing more anime streams than download anime in the future

Honestly, I'm not sure abut this one. On one hand I'd like to support the industry and watch legal streams instead of fansubs, but on the other hand, downloading fansubs is far more convinent as I can rewatch whenever I want without using more bandwidth, plus the quality is usually higher.

5) Have you ever paid for anime (online or offline, such as DVDs)?
- Yes

6) If you answered "Yes" above, would you be willing and able to pay for anime online?
- No

7) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of online anime would you be willing to pay for?

- Other (please specify)

I answered no to the last question, but I might be willing to pay a reasonable subscription. I'm not about to pay for individual episodes, though, unless they come on a professionally manufactured dvd. Which leads in to the next question.

8) If you are unwilling to pay for anime online, what is your primary reason?

- I only want to pay for tangible goods like DVDs, not digital goods

I buy dvds to put on my shelf and look cool. I rarely actually watch them, beyond one or two eisodes to make sure there's no authoring problems. Hell, I haven't even opened my Nanoha box sets.

9) Would you like to see AnimeSuki list anime streams?
- Yes
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10) If you answered "Yes" above, what kind of streams should AnimeSuki list?

- A mix of both

11) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list time-limited streams? (ie: streams that are only available for 2 weeks after airing)

- Yes, even after the stream is only available as some kind of pay-only option

Though I'd just add that it should be made clear when they become pay only. This could be as simple as adding a "free until DD-MM-YYYY" when adding them or actually changing the entry when they're no longer free.

12) When listing legal streams, should AnimeSuki list region-locked streams? (ie: streams that are only available to visitors from the US, etc)
- Yes, but the allowed region should be clearly visible on AnimeSuki


13) Should AnimeSuki list non-free legal anime streams? (ie: streams that require payment to view)
- Yes, if clearly marked as pay-only


14) When listing non-legal unlicensed streams, should AnimeSuki only list streams created/sanctioned by fansub groups? (Fansub groups: I need your opinion on this!)
- Yes, only list "official" fansub group sanctioned streams


I think I can sum up my position here as, sure list them, but make it clear what's what. Legal streams being marked as such, fansub streams being marked as such, and so on. If possible to include, pricing information on the legal streams, like is it a pay per episode thing or part of a monthly subscription, would be really helpful. This doesn't have to include the actual price, but at least what type of payment plan it is.
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