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Old 2009-05-10, 00:15   Link #261
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-No asteroids/comets fell onto Rokkenjima from 4th october to 5th october

-No animals nor robotic life forms were used in this game (which means no chimpanzees using a bow and arrow)

If maria did not kill Kanon. And Shannon was killed by Maria. And Kanon did not kill himself...

*turn the chessboard*

The witch would definately want to limit our thinking, so by killing Shannon first, we would think that only Kanon and Maria remained... but if Shannon didnt die...

Hey witch..
-Shannon died immediately from the projectile
-The projectile in Shannon's abdomen was removed
Huhhhh?~

-No asteroid or comets fell from the sky on Rokkenjima between October 4th and 5th 1986.
-No animals or robots were involved in this game
-Shannon immediately died from the projectile
-The projectile was not removed.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:18   Link #262
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I would love to request the witch to describe what the projectile is capable of doing. Dont tell me what it is.

And another request:

Killing. Is it intentional, unintetional or both?
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:21   Link #263
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Since neither Shannon, Kanon, nor Maria killed Kanon, Kanon's death is caused by either poison, or a "natural" caused death.

Crazy theories right before I sleep ftw.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:24   Link #264
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Impossible... I know we're supposed to be missing information but it looks impossible lol...unless it's Kanon died from disease or Kanon was killed by a meteor.. Actually Kanon might have died from disease and that was why he refused to be with Jessica.

Because Kinzo was targeted specifically, the motivation for the 1st twilight is MONEY!
Really?~ I would think with everything I recited the answer should be obvious. But then again, the obvious answer is that I killed them with magic so you should just accept that.

Both theories are wrong.

-Kanon had no disease (other than furnituritis, but you don't die from that)

-The motivation of the 1st twilight culprit was not money.

And your other theory about Kanon being poisoned or dying from natural causes is also wrong.


@hodil:

The projectile launched at Shannon is capable of killing. It is possible to live from this launched projectile but it's very unlikely. Also, the device used to shoot the projectile is silent - in that it makes no loud noise when it's used.

Also, Maria's killing of Shannon was unintentional.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:26   Link #265
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The weapon : Bow
The projectile : An arrow.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:29   Link #266
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The weapon : Bow
The projectile : An arrow.
Wrong.

Tsk, tsk. I wonder if I should tell you the sad reality...nah I think I'll just torture you all for now~

You might have figured out Maria is the 2nd twilight killer, but you still need to find out how she vanished and the mystery of "What in the World Happened to Kanon". I told you all, before you solved Maria was the killer, that the figuring out one aspect of the 2nd twilight would simply open more doors.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:33   Link #267
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analysis of weapons

A stone... a small throw pebble.. dont have a high chance of killing someone.. and its blunt.

A dart... is too thin to cause a large wound in the abdomen and doesnt have a high killing rate.

A throwing knife... now why on earth would Maria have all this with her!?


nvm... imma go do my homework now seeya

I just got inspired...

repeat
-Kanon was healthy, and not injured before he entered the garden
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:45   Link #268
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analysis of weapons

A stone... a small throw pebble.. dont have a high chance of killing someone.. and its blunt.

A dart... is too thin to cause a large wound in the abdomen and doesnt have a high killing rate.

A throwing knife... now why on earth would Maria have all this with her!?


nvm... imma go do my homework now seeya

I just got inspired...

repeat
-Kanon was healthy, and not injured before he entered the garden
Your analysis on weapons are correct.

PS:

-Maria does not carry any kind of sharp weapons, projectiles and launchers in her bag. So don't even ask.
And on top of that
-The thing she used to kill Shannon was found in the rose garden
-Kanon was healthy when he went to the garden and not injured in any way that could cause death.
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:46   Link #269
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The rose garden was not unlimited blade works

OK nvm... im off now. Seeya
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Old 2009-05-10, 00:49   Link #270
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I'm sorry this twilight is annoying you~
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Old 2009-05-10, 01:05   Link #271
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nope i just couldnt help but think about Kanon while memorising my work

I request the witch to describe the wounds on Kanon and Shannon..
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Old 2009-05-10, 01:11   Link #272
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nope i just couldnt help but think about Kanon while memorising my work

I request the witch to describe the wounds on Kanon and Shannon..
Both have similar stomach wounds in similar places. Shannon's wound is smaller than Kanon's, due to the size of the projectile and Kanon's wound is more wider.
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Old 2009-05-10, 01:19   Link #273
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-Kanon's body was not moved
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Old 2009-05-10, 01:27   Link #274
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-Kanon's body was not moved
Moved?

-After dying Kanon's body was not moved until Gohda took it from the rose garden to the mansion.
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Old 2009-05-10, 08:43   Link #275
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While there may have not been any sort of sharp objects in the garden, as you stated, such a well-kept garden must have a gardening shed or some sort of place to put all sorts of tedious gardening tools, correct? And surely, some of those gardening tools could be used as perhaps a projectile, am I right? Therefore, since Maria did not have the weapon with her, and there were no sharp objects in the garden, she must have left the garden, perhaps to my guess of a gardening shed.
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Old 2009-05-10, 09:36   Link #276
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Theory is wrong.

-Maria did not leave the garden of her own free will at any time.

Look up from your post a little: I stated in red that Maria found her weapon to kill Shannon in the actual rose garden.

-Maria did not place that weapon there in advance
-She found this weapon and believed it to be a toy and accidentally shot Shannon, thinking she was just using a play toy.


As I said before, to figure out the present you must figure out the past. So tell me - how did Maria's weapon get to the rose garden if she didn't plant it? Finding this out will be key.

By the way: does anyone know how many ways we theorized how Kanon could have died yet |D? I think I counted at least 10.
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Old 2009-05-10, 09:44   Link #277
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Hey, Kanon's death are always the funniest, I actually love playing "The-how-did-Kanon-die-game"

-The weapon Maria found was used in the first twilight and hidden by the culprit
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Old 2009-05-10, 09:47   Link #278
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Hey, Kanon's death are always the funniest, I actually love playing "The-how-did-Kanon-die-game"

-The weapon Maria found was used in the first twilight and hidden by the culprit
: ( It gets annoying for me after a while.

Well your theory is partly wrong but -

-The weapon Maria found was used in the 1st twilight by someone. They dropped it.
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Old 2009-05-10, 09:51   Link #279
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I request the witch to describe the wounds of the 1st Twilight victims.
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Old 2009-05-10, 09:55   Link #280
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I request the witch to describe the wounds of the 1st Twilight victims.
Your request is refused.

Kinzo was burned before I got a chance to see the wound, so it wouldn't be fair to him.
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